Bonds is on the juice

[d0ofy]

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/...a/2004/12/03/BALCO.TMP

 

[KLin]

you know this was going to happen since giambi's testimony was leaked.

 

[Wanescotting]

hmmm..why not test EVERY player 3X a year........If they test positive, they get a LIFETIME BAN from baseball

 

[Colt45]

meh. baseball is dying

 

[Wanescotting]

Indeed it is, would you like to know why?

OKAY I will tell ya':
IT IS THE ONLY SPORT in which the defense cannot score, I.e. turnovers cannot lead to points.

 

[Lyfer]

I think since Bonds and Giambi used roids, they should make it legal so that all MLB players can improve there stats.

 

[brxndxn]

where's the 'he's been outted' part?

 

[MrDingleDangle]

no way they can elect bonds into the hall of fame if this is true

 

[masterxfob]

how do you not know what supplements you're taking? that is such an obvious lie, what a pathetic ball player.

baseball needs a total overhaul, mainly a lower salary cap and some damned drug enforcement.

 

[her209]

:thumbsdown:

 

[BigJ]

He should be stripped of all honors and records, including those before he "started" taking steriods. If he started with BALCO in 2001, there's no telling if he didn't try something else beforehand. And he should NOT be allowed into the HOF.

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
no way they can elect bonds into the hall of fame if this is true

Why not?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
no way they can elect bonds into the hall of fame if this is true

Why not?

He disgraced the game of baseball; but not only that, made a mockery of the sport by breaking records while on the juice.

 

[jtusa]

OMGREPOST x eleventybillion

 

[T2T III]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
no way they can elect bonds into the hall of fame if this is true

Why not?

He disgraced the game of baseball; but not only that, made a mockery of the sport by breaking records while on the juice.

Not only that, Bonds seems about as oblivious to the steroids issue as O.J. does to the Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman murders. :Q

 

[gflores]

This whole thing has been utterly disgusting. In almost all sports, they are doing drugs it seems. Sad state of affairs...

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: jtusa4
OMGREPOST x eleventybillion

Alright smartass, find a link that clearly states Bonds admitted to a grand jury he used steroids.

 

[MrDingleDangle]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
no way they can elect bonds into the hall of fame if this is true

Why not?

He disgraced the game of baseball; but not only that, made a mockery of the sport by breaking records while on the juice.

if they dont let pete rose in the hall (which i agree with)

no way can you let people like bonds/giambi/sheffield in the hall

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
no way they can elect bonds into the hall of fame if this is true

Why not?

He disgraced the game of baseball; but not only that, made a mockery of the sport by breaking records while on the juice.

if they dont let pete rose in the hall (which i agree with)

no way can you let people like bonds/giambi/sheffield in the hall

Pete Rose should never be let in the HoF either. He only apologized to capitalize on his book deal. They need a much stricter enforcement for substances. 3 strikes and you should be banned from baseball IMHO.

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
no way they can elect bonds into the hall of fame if this is true

Why not?

He disgraced the game of baseball; but not only that, made a mockery of the sport by breaking records while on the juice.

Whatever.

Obviously, Bonds is not the only one who has gone down this path. He is just a lightning rod for it because of what he was able to achieve. If Bonds is not that great of a player, then why isn't every person who is on steroids (or whatever) able to have the type of sucess that he has?

Lots of players have cheated and still retained their honors / statistics / etc. Look at Gaylord Perry. He flat-out told everyone that he doctored the baseball when he was pitching and he is in the Hall of Fame.

Good luck getting his records or awards stripped. The truth is, he is competing directly against other players that are juiced up as well. MLB is rife with players who were on steroids, etc. Until this year, there were no consequences for being on steroids. By the rules of MLB, he wasn't do anything wrong.

 

[mpitts]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
no way they can elect bonds into the hall of fame if this is true

Why not?

He disgraced the game of baseball; but not only that, made a mockery of the sport by breaking records while on the juice.

if they dont let pete rose in the hall (which i agree with)

no way can you let people like bonds/giambi/sheffield in the hall

Pete Rose should never be let in the HoF either. He only apologized to capitalize on his book deal. They need a much stricter enforcement for substances. 3 strikes and you should be banned from baseball IMHO.

I agree Pete Rose should never be in the Hall of Fame, but that is a completely different arguement.

And I agree that MLB SHOULD be more strict when it comes to controlled substances. But they haven't been.

 

[jtusa]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: jtusa4
OMGREPOST x eleventybillion

Alright smartass, find a link that clearly states Bonds admitted to a grand jury he used steroids.

I'm referring to all of the "OMG BARRY BONDS IS ON TEH DRUGZ!!!1!11!!!11" posts that have been on here the past few weeks.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
no way they can elect bonds into the hall of fame if this is true

Why not?

He disgraced the game of baseball; but not only that, made a mockery of the sport by breaking records while on the juice.

Whatever.

Obviously, Bonds is not the only one who has gone down this path. He is just a lightning rod for it because of what he was able to achieve. If Bonds is not that great of a player, then why isn't every person who is on steroids (or whatever) able to have the type of sucess that he has?

Lots of players have cheated and still retained their honors / statistics / etc. Look at Gaylord Perry. He flat-out told everyone that he was doctoring the baseball and he is in the Hall of Fame.

Good luck getting his records or awards stripped. The truth is, he is competing directly against other players that are juiced up as well. MLB is rife with players who were on steroids, etc. Until this year, there were no consequences for being on steroids. By the rules of MLB, he wasn't do anything wrong.

Bonds was a great player while off the juice. A great outfielder, base runner, and a consistent hitter. For the most part it's not that much of a problem when an average player uses steriods, although it should be. But when you're breaking HISTORIC records that are vital to baseball history, it becomes a HUGE problem. The players union, along with the owners, have made a mockey of major league baseball. And yes he was doing something wrong, he just didn't get caught.

I don't have anything personal against Bonds, but if MLB wants to restore any credibitily, they need to make an example out of Bonds, Giambi, and Sheffield at least.

 

[MrDingleDangle]

well i think something needs to be done and now....bonds has 1 year before he breaks one of the most ridiculus records in sports and now it is known that he cheated to get this close

 

[d0ofy]

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mpitts

Originally posted by: MrDingleDangle
no way they can elect bonds into the hall of fame if this is true

Why not?

He disgraced the game of baseball; but not only that, made a mockery of the sport by breaking records while on the juice.

Whatever.

Obviously, Bonds is not the only one who has gone down this path. He is just a lightning rod for it because of what he was able to achieve. If Bonds is not that great of a player, then why isn't every person who is on steroids (or whatever) able to have the type of sucess that he has?

Lots of players have cheated and still retained their honors / statistics / etc. Look at Gaylord Perry. He flat-out told everyone that he doctored the baseball when he was pitching and he is in the Hall of Fame.

Good luck getting his records or awards stripped. The truth is, he is competing directly against other players that are juiced up as well. MLB is rife with players who were on steroids, etc. Until this year, there were no consequences for being on steroids. By the rules of MLB, he wasn't do anything wrong.

The difference here is that laws are being broken.