Bolsonaro declares Brazil's 'liberation from socialism' as he is sworn in

[K1052]

In other positive news Lula winning probably means that Brazil will agree to sell Ukraine EMB 314 Super Tucancos. Ukraine tried to buy some before the war but Bolsonaro scuttled the deal because he's tight with Putin.

 

[Jaskalas]

Probably a large number of jobs and a lot of money to be made in destroying the entire Amazon rain forest.
It looks like a very even divide where no small number support Bolsonaro.
Throw in the economic question and saving the Amazon may not be politically viable. Lot of money to grease the wheels for its destruction, or the destruction of anyone standing in the way.

 

[Sunburn74]

Probably a large number of jobs and a lot of money to be made in destroying the entire Amazon rain forest.
It looks like a very even divide where no small number support Bolsonaro.
Throw in the economic question and saving the Amazon may not be politically viable. Lot of money to grease the wheels for its destruction, or the destruction of anyone standing in the way.

I remember reading somewhere that it would be economically viable for the rest of the civilized world to simply pay Brazil not to destroy the rainforest annually. Basically the economic value Brazil gets from the rainforest destructive activities they participate in (for example ranching and the cattle industry), is far less than the value most western countries put on the rainforest in terms of climate regulation in terms of actual dollars. The rest of the world could simply pool some money together and say "hey we will pay you Brazil to leave the rain forest alone" with a sum of money that would grossly exceed whatever gdp Brazil would get from whatever they were going to do with the rainforest and it would still be mere pittance for the rest of the world. I think the number was around 9 billion usd annually is what brazil derives from it's rainforest destructive activities and for western nations that's pittance or even a rounding error particularly if you're talking pooling money across countries.

 

[zinfamous]

I remember reading somewhere that it would be economically viable for the rest of the civilized world to simply pay Brazil not to destroy the rainforest annually. Basically the economic value Brazil gets from the rainforest destructive activities they participate in (for example ranching and the cattle industry), is far less than the value most western countries put on the rainforest in terms of climate regulation in terms of actual dollars. The rest of the world could simply pool some money together and say "hey we will pay you Brazil to leave the rain forest alone" with a sum of money that would grossly exceed whatever gdp Brazil would get from whatever they were going to do with the rainforest and it would still be mere pittance for the rest of the world. I think the number was around 9 billion usd annually is what brazil derives from it's rainforest destructive activities and for western nations that's pittance or even a rounding error particularly if you're talking pooling money across countries.

When you think about it like that, Musk could have bought ~6 years of rainforest, but instead he bought a failing texting app.

 

[Fenixgoon]

I remember reading somewhere that it would be economically viable for the rest of the civilized world to simply pay Brazil not to destroy the rainforest annually. Basically the economic value Brazil gets from the rainforest destructive activities they participate in (for example ranching and the cattle industry), is far less than the value most western countries put on the rainforest in terms of climate regulation in terms of actual dollars. The rest of the world could simply pool some money together and say "hey we will pay you Brazil to leave the rain forest alone" with a sum of money that would grossly exceed whatever gdp Brazil would get from whatever they were going to do with the rainforest and it would still be mere pittance for the rest of the world. I think the number was around 9 billion usd annually is what brazil derives from it's rainforest destructive activities and for western nations that's pittance or even a rounding error particularly if you're talking pooling money across countries.

for something that's critical to the health of the planet, we really SHOULD be doing that.

 

[Greenman]

I remember reading somewhere that it would be economically viable for the rest of the civilized world to simply pay Brazil not to destroy the rainforest annually. Basically the economic value Brazil gets from the rainforest destructive activities they participate in (for example ranching and the cattle industry), is far less than the value most western countries put on the rainforest in terms of climate regulation in terms of actual dollars. The rest of the world could simply pool some money together and say "hey we will pay you Brazil to leave the rain forest alone" with a sum of money that would grossly exceed whatever gdp Brazil would get from whatever they were going to do with the rainforest and it would still be mere pittance for the rest of the world. I think the number was around 9 billion usd annually is what brazil derives from it's rainforest destructive activities and for western nations that's pittance or even a rounding error particularly if you're talking pooling money across countries.

Perhaps even buy the rain forest outright then actively defend it.

 

[alien42]

Bolsonaro is out and Lula is back in...

Lula stages astonishing comeback to beat far-right Bolsonaro in Brazil election

Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, the former leftist president, has reclaimed the leadership and vowed to reunify his country

www.theguardian.com