Boiling Frogs

[Subterranean Homesick Alien]

I was just talking to a fundamentalist Christian who was trying to re-convert me, bring me back into the fold as they put it. He was talking about sin, how a person can get caught up in it and not realize just how far into sin he has gone. To illustrate, he used an analogy about boiling frogs that goes like this: If you drop a frog into a pot of boiling water, he will jump right out. But if you put the frog into a pot of cold water and then only gradually bring up the heat, the frog will sit there until he boils to death.

So, is this true? I had heard this analogy before but I?m a bit skeptical. I mean the gradual rise in temp might not worry the frog much, but it seems like at some point it would get too hot and the little fellow will be hopping around trying to get out. In this case, the analogy falls apart.

I don?t see many frogs up here in AK where I live. Anyone living around an abundance of frogs want to put this to the test?

 

[Mo0o]

yeah it's true

edit: hmm guess not, swear I saw it in a school video, oh well

 

[Lonyo]

Who cares? Sin all you like IMO, it's like money, kind of.
With money, spend it, you can always get some more.
With sin, well if the bad things come, move on and go elsewhere where you put the bad stuff behind.
<-- doesn't believe in any kind of afterlife.

 

[Subterranean Homesick Alien]

Originally posted by: Lonyo
Who cares? Sin all you like IMO, it's like money, kind of.
With money, spend it, you can always get some more.
With sin, well if the bad things come, move on and go elsewhere where you put the bad stuff behind.
<-- doesn't believe in any kind of afterlife.

same here. I wasn't asking if I should believe him though. I was asking if his metaphor about boiling frogs was true.

 

[imported_Phil]

Your username breaks the forums.

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: Lonyo
Who cares? Sin all you like IMO, it's like money, kind of.
With money, spend it, you can always get some more.
With sin, well if the bad things come, move on and go elsewhere where you put the bad stuff behind.
<-- doesn't believe in any kind of afterlife.

 

[Rastus]

Originally posted by: Subterranean Homesick Alien

Originally posted by: Lonyo
Who cares? Sin all you like IMO, it's like money, kind of.
With money, spend it, you can always get some more.
With sin, well if the bad things come, move on and go elsewhere where you put the bad stuff behind.
<-- doesn't believe in any kind of afterlife.

same here. I wasn't asking if I should believe him though. I was asking if his metaphor about boiling frogs was true.

It's nuts.

 

[MommysLittleMonster]

Originally posted by: Phil
Your username breaks the forums.

hahahhaa

 

[imported_Lucifer]

Originally posted by: Subterranean Homesick Alien

Originally posted by: Lonyo
Who cares? Sin all you like IMO, it's like money, kind of.
With money, spend it, you can always get some more.
With sin, well if the bad things come, move on and go elsewhere where you put the bad stuff behind.
<-- doesn't believe in any kind of afterlife.

same here. I wasn't asking if I should believe him though. I was asking if his metaphor about boiling frogs was true.

Christians say ridiculous things. Don't believe him.

 

[Jeff7181]

Maybe I'm ignorant, but what the hell does boiling a frog have to do with being a sinner?????

 

[no0b]

How did you get a username thats over 20 characters?

 

[cherrytwist]

Not to mention, what do aliens have to do with Dylan?

 

[loup garou]

Originally posted by: no0b
How did you get a username thats over 20 characters?

Because it's too awesome a name to not allow!

 

[lokiju]

False

 

[Subterranean Homesick Alien]

Originally posted by: cherrytwist
Not to mention, what do aliens have to do with Dylan?

^ Obviously not a Radiohead fan.

 

[Subterranean Homesick Alien]

Originally posted by: lokiju
False

Ah, ha! Now why didn't I remember to check snopes first? I guess that settles that question. Time to do some more sinning!

 

[NiteWulf]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Maybe I'm ignorant, but what the hell does boiling a frog have to do with being a sinner?????

It has to do with moving away from God and closer to hell. Obviously a devout person will object to a "big" sin like murder, but they may lie to safeguard someone's feelings. They build up the "little" sins, gradually building up immunity to the guilt of sin. Pretty soon they are so far into sin that they're going to burn (or boil, speaking of the frog) without realizing that they're getting hotter.

 

[eLiu]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Maybe I'm ignorant, but what the hell does boiling a frog have to do with being a sinner?????

I think it means something like...

You'd be repulsed if I handed you a gun and asked you to shoot the guy next to you (tossing you into boiling water).

But given a long time of slow-buildup & minor nudging, I could turn you into a killer.

 

[Jeff7181]

I see... bullsh!t religious propoganda.

 

[Eli]

No, that's a bunch of horsesh!t.

If you dropped a frog into boiling water, it would die.

If you put a frog into a pot of water and put it on a burner, the frog would hop out the moment he felt any disturbance(heat) on his feet.

 

[0roo0roo]

i guess he didn't try this boiling technique himself. didn't even sacrifice his pinky finger...sad. wouldn't have hurt

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: NiteWulf

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Maybe I'm ignorant, but what the hell does boiling a frog have to do with being a sinner?????

It has to do with moving away from God and closer to hell. Obviously a devout person will object to a "big" sin like murder, but they may lie to safeguard someone's feelings. They build up the "little" sins, gradually building up immunity to the guilt of sin. Pretty soon they are so far into sin that they're going to burn (or boil, speaking of the frog) without realizing that they're getting hotter.

Makes sense logically, but it doesen't work like that in real life. Normal people don't have that problem, yet normal people tell so-called "little white lies", to safeguard someones feelings in your example.

I suppose it's a good message though, and something that everyone should practice whether religious or not.

You shouldn't have to use religion as an excuse to be a good person, ie: refrain from lying, cheating, stealing, etc.

 

[Stunt]

Why do people hate the french so much

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: lokiju
False

Exactly...how come no one checked Snopes sooner?

 

[reverend boltron]

Originally posted by: Subterranean Homesick Alien
I was just talking to a fundamentalist Christian who was trying to re-convert me, bring me back into the fold as they put it. He was talking about sin, how a person can get caught up in it and not realize just how far into sin he has gone. To illustrate, he used an analogy about boiling frogs that goes like this: If you drop a frog into a pot of boiling water, he will jump right out. But if you put the frog into a pot of cold water and then only gradually bring up the heat, the frog will sit there until he boils to death.

So, is this true? I had heard this analogy before but I?m a bit skeptical. I mean the gradual rise in temp might not worry the frog much, but it seems like at some point it would get too hot and the little fellow will be hopping around trying to get out. In this case, the analogy falls apart.

I don?t see many frogs up here in AK where I live. Anyone living around an abundance of frogs want to put this to the test?

I still think that the case of the frog holds true, not what your friend said about it boilding to death, but about it eventually hopping out. I know that before I had accepted christ in my life, I was definitely sitting in a pot getting ready to boil. Things didn't seem that big of a deal to me. First when I was young, smoking pot was insane and I couldn't believe people did it, then my friends and I tried it, and it wasn't that big of a deal anymore. The temperature went up a little. Then someone was talking about doing acid, and I thought that was horrible, I mean, people go crazy from that, but I tried that too. And the water got a little hotter. Soon, I was saying "well, nothing up the nose or in the arm for me" and pretty soon I was snorting away. Gradually things got hotter and hotter, but they didn't seem to be that big of a deal anymore. Ya know. Because I got used to the situation and I adapted to it. But there got to a point of waking up every day with a hangover, or getting a bloody nose at my ex-girlfriends graduation party, to never having any money and always feeling depressed that I needed somewhere to jump to. Ya know? And I was offered a helping hand and a place to cool off and get my bearings. That might not hold true for everyone, but it definitely held true for me. I honestly think that if I was not introduced to Jesus and his teachings that I would probably have boiled to death. Props to your friend for being a friend.

On a side note, I think that if dropped a frog in freezing cold water it would jump right out too. If you know what I'm saying. So I just hope he wasn't trying to shove anything down your throat, but that he left the door open.