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Boehner blames California Drought on Obama

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You can make rain if you have moisture in the air - guess Obama didn't executive order they make rain for California lawns.
 
That is why I said with all the technology we have we should be able to solve these problems..........I didn't say wipe out the fishing industry........figure out a solution.
 
Rustler said:
That is why I said with all the technology we have we should be able to solve these problems..........I didn't say wipe out the fishing industry........figure out a solution.
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We have a solution, it's just that the Canadians don't like it.
 
Rustler said:
That is why I said with all the technology we have we should be able to solve these problems..........I didn't say wipe out the fishing industry........figure out a solution.
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Ok but you mentioned the "tiny fish" that is in the echo chamber. Im not trying to bust your balls just educating a little bit.
 
K7SN said:
You can make rain if you have moisture in the air - guess Obama didn't executive order they make rain for California lawns.
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It has been proposed to salt rain clouds so they rain. We get some sizable clouds on occasion that fly over. It would be nice to make it rain on us. We also have desalinization plants coming online and I really wish we could get more people onboard with toilet to tap. It just makes sense. You filter the toilet water and then use it to charge the water table.
 
JSt0rm said:
It has been proposed to salt rain clouds so they rain. We get some sizable clouds on occasion that fly over. It would be nice to make it rain on us. We also have desalinization plants coming online and I really wish we could get more people onboard with toilet to tap. It just makes sense. You filter the toilet water and then use it to charge the water table.
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Best of luck to all of you, just don't bank on that Washington to California aqueduct that keeps coming up as the savior solution.

The health of the Columbia and her contributing rivers and tributaries and the Salmon population that depends on this system are far more important than some desert dwelling self righteous southern California assholes.

And Washington's produce belts are so productive and self sustaining that a major warehouse was built to sell the overflow right on a railroad head. Last I checked a train left daily with about 80-100 reefer cars full of produce for the Northeast U.S. market. Sisquatanny NY or something similar?
 
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Rustler said:
man made in the sense that you don't build any more dams or water sheds because of crazy envirometal nut jobs, it seems little fish and all kinds of animals come before the welfare of human beings.
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Or you know, you could protect the water you do have evaporation and make farmers better utilize the water they have. But instead we get open air canal, field flooding, etc.

You also still need rain/snow to fall in order to fill the reservoirs.

I don't think any one is going to die from lack of water in California, so I don't see how we are putting the welfare of the environment ahead of the welfare of people. Furthermore, protecting the environment protects the welfare of future people. If people had to pay the real cost of water in California, no body would want a green lawn and there would be no field flooding.
 
Zorba said:
Or you know, you could protect the water you do have evaporation and make farmers better utilize the water they have. But instead we get open air canal, field flooding, etc.

You also still need rain/snow to fall in order to fill the reservoirs.

I don't think any one is going to die from lack of water in California, so I don't see how we are putting the welfare of the environment ahead of the welfare of people. Furthermore, protecting the environment protects the welfare of future people. If people had to pay the real cost of water in California, no body would want a green lawn and there would be no field flooding.
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All of the water rights are changing. Things are in the works if you lived here you would be better informed on whats going on. I barely flush my toilets and my 2014 bmw has sap all over the roof. 🙁
 
JSt0rm said:
I haven't heard of that as a solution.



fuck you too.
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Really, you've never heard about an aqueduct from Washington to California? Maybe the CA government has finally realized this won't happen and has quit banking on it.

And you sure took that comment personally, I guess it struck a little to close to home lol. Are you honestly surprised in regards to the water shortages and rationing? The aqueduct system had to be built when the population was a mere fraction of today's, it was only a matter of time and will only get worse.

I suggest getting the hell out of Dodge before it becomes impossible to do so. Especially if you're a properly owner.
 
davmat787 said:
Really, you've never heard about an aqueduct from Washington to California? Maybe the CA government has finally realized this won't happen and has quit banking on it.

And you sure took that comment personally, I guess it struck a little to close to home lol. Are you honestly surprised in regards to the water shortages and rationing? The aqueduct system had to be built when the population was a mere fraction of today's, it was only a matter of time and will only get worse.

I suggest getting the hell out of Dodge before it becomes impossible to do so. Especially if you're a properly owner.
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Ok Nostradamus. We have things we can do to save water and get water so dont worry. Los Angeles isnt going to be a barren waste.

Let me edit this and say if anything stops it will be farming. They have a big voice but its 2% of the gpa of california. lol if you think this economic engine will allow some rural people to keep dumping water onto plants so the rest of you get cheap broccoli.
 
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Ok Nostradamus. We have things we can do to save water and get water so dont worry. Los Angeles isnt going to be a barren waste.

Let me edit this and say if anything stops it will be farming. They have a big voice but its 2% of the gpa of california. lol if you think this economic engine will allow some rural people to keep dumping water onto plants so the rest of you get cheap broccoli.
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I pre blocked your broccoli comment, Washington's produce production has a huge daily train leaving for NY, along with all the other distributions. Save for Citrus and a few melons that don't come from Mexico I can't think of anything that I can't get grown locally that is cheaper and / or fresher. And that includes my Brussels Sprouts, CA can be swallowed by the Pacific for all I care.

Like I said the health of the local Salmon population is of more importance than any of your water problems and the delusional populace.
 
How did you preblock my broccoli comment? You dont think prices will go up if supply goes down? lol. Like I care anyhow. All I'm saying is we can cut off farming 100% in my state and have plenty of water to do lots of other stuff.
 
JSt0rm said:
How did you preblock my broccoli comment? You dont think prices will go up if supply goes down? lol. Like I care anyhow. All I'm saying is we can cut off farming 100% in my state and have plenty of water to do lots of other stuff.
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Because my original reply at 5:17 specifically mentioned Washington's produce belts and the export capacity because I knew someone would bring up CA's produce belt as if it's a national treasure of such strategic importance that it deserves its own aqueduct straight from the Pacific Northwest.

The only thing special about CA's produce production is your immediate proximity to cheap migrant labor with a pliant history.
 
davmat787 said:
Because my original reply at 5:17 specifically mentioned Washington's produce belts and the export capacity because I knew someone would bring up CA's produce belt as if it's a national treasure of such strategic importance that it deserves its own aqueduct straight from the Pacific Northwest.

The only thing special about CA's produce production is your immediate proximity to cheap migrant labor with a pliant history.
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I'm advocating shutting down CA produce belt as its only 2% of gdp. You are arguing with your own shadow at this point. lmao. Dont get so angry and read whats being written. Or dont and get super angry at California for...reasons.
 
Well I guess the love is over?
Republicans worked with Obama to pass TPP, and now THIS?
Oh John. Oh Barack.
Can't we all just.... GET ALONG?

Looks like working together on TPP left a sour taste in Boehner's mouth, and he has a little hate time makeup to do.

John, I hear Moses parted the Red Sea.
That no doubt caused a hell of a lot of water flow issues, for those living down stream.
Give god and Moses the credit for parting the Red Sea.
But blame the water shortage downstream on.... wait for it... Pharaoh Obama.
 
While this Progressive leaning article is correct for the most part. There are a lot of politics involved that have in fact made the drought even worse than it should be.

Boehners statement is in fact stupid on its face. The article is also leaning his statement in its biased view also.

No, I don't believe that it is Obama's fault, but mostly the politicians in California and the natural climate change.
 
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davmat787 said:
Because my original reply at 5:17 specifically mentioned Washington's produce belts and the export capacity because I knew someone would bring up CA's produce belt as if it's a national treasure of such strategic importance that it deserves its own aqueduct straight from the Pacific Northwest.

The only thing special about CA's produce production is your immediate proximity to cheap migrant labor with a pliant history.
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I haven't run the numbers exactly, but the imperial valley alone produces 80% of the vegetables in the winter for the WHOLE FUCKING COUNTRY. They probably throw away more than your precious over producing Washington valley. We're not talking about a pittance here, and that's ignoring the central valley, which dwarfs the imperial valley. Also, the way this El Nino is shaping up, we'll put a serious dent in the drought this year. We could probably come close to wiping it out if we had better methods for retaining all the rain fall.
 
uclaLabrat said:
I haven't run the numbers exactly, but the imperial valley alone produces 80% of the vegetables in the winter for the WHOLE FUCKING COUNTRY. They probably throw away more than your precious over producing Washington valley. We're not talking about a pittance here, and that's ignoring the central valley, which dwarfs the imperial valley. Also, the way this El Nino is shaping up, we'll put a serious dent in the drought this year. We could probably come close to wiping it out if we had better methods for retaining all the rain fall.
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This is politics.
 
pcgeek11 said:
This is politics.
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I don't doubt that for a second, and if the environmentalists and the farmers and developers could argue or negotiate in good faith, we could probably have our cake and eat it too...but it will all devolve into histrionics and become a cluster fuck that is California politics.
 
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