Body Cam proves cop was innocent

[realibrad]

The facts or this case were scant and police tight-lipped until recently. Again, the DA conveniently only released a small portion of the actual audio, as if it doesn't necessarily support their ruling. I'm still not convinced the shooting was completely "justified." Let us hear the complete audio.

Dillon, his brother and cousin, were profiled by a 911 caller based on their clothing and claims of these "gangbangers" waving a gun, an allegation that went unsubstantiated. So yeah, this would be bad intelligence.

When Officer Cruz drove up, he saw Dillon animatedly talking to friends stopped at a red light. He was already conditioned to see such innocuous arm waving motions as menacing or threatening. At that point, Officer Cruz allowed the three to go inside the 7-Eleven and waited for their exit while calling for backup, as he believed these to be armed men.

Police are now saying that Dillon knew the inevitability of a warrant being served for a probation violation. I guess this is one reason why Dillon (when able to hear police) didn't want to acknowledge their presence. Although, belligerence shouldn't come with an immediate death sentence.

Another interesting note about these bodycams, they are data limited and only activated by the officer with *due diligence* during confrontations.

And none of that is why he got shot. He got shot, because he acted like he was pulling a gun out of his waist to shoot the cop. Everything else you just mentioned only goes to why he was confronted by the cop.

 

[werepossum]

Or people realize they are being recorded by the police and realize that it is not worth filing a complaint that is bogus.

- Merg

This is an excellent point. We always hear about police brutality. Well, a metric shit ton of those claims are bogus.

And none of that is why he got shot. He got shot, because he acted like he was pulling a gun out of his waist to shoot the cop. Everything else you just mentioned only goes to why he was confronted by the cop.

I stand by my earlier verdict: Darwin Award.

 

[Pulsar]

This is an excellent point. We always hear about police brutality. Well, a metric shit ton of those claims are bogus.

I stand by my earlier verdict: Darwin Award.

+1.

Deflecting the focus away from what happened in the video by bringing up why the police were called, how long they took, or how many elephants are killed each day in Africa really has nothing to do with whether or not this was a justified shooting.

 

[werepossum]

+1.

Deflecting the focus away from what happened in the video by bringing up why the police were called, how long they took, or how many elephants are killed each day in Africa really has nothing to do with whether or not this was a justified shooting.

Yep. All he had to do was to act like a sensible person - keep his hands in sight, make no fast moves, and cooperate fully - and we'd have never heard his name.

 

[RandomWords]

Why are police being "tight lipped" about shit a bad thing? They never release details of an ongoing investigation... Why would that differ when it could be the cop was at fault?

I don't think it is a bad thing at all - it keeps any jury from making it an automatic closed case; it also keeps it so that anyone involved in the story can't doctor their side of the story. They also usually have to submit the video to whatever agency / agencies it has to go to... to expect the news and world to have it before the trial or charges are concluded is retarded... and in this country that can take well over a year.

 

[RandomWords]

actually your living in a dream world......the truth is that Cops who make contact with the public and show some manners and respect get manners and respect in return!!

Actually, I think you might live in a dream world where people are sensible - in the world I live in - people do call to make bogus complaints in order to get tickets reduced to warnings - they also don't have any manners regardless if manners are shown - and they also are retarded, the retarded example:

People call about speeding down a street, says cops aren't working the area enough. Cops go work the area. Pull people over for speeding - writes ticket. A person that called in gets stopped for speeding says, "I'm one of the ones that called in." Cop, "that's good, here is your ticket." Person that calls in gets furious and starts yelling at the cop for doing exactly what they requested they do; later on - same person calls in to complain on that cop... that just screams sensible respectful person to you I assume...

BTW - that is a REAL life account, not one that I made up.

 

[RandomWords]

Merg, these guys have provided links supporting their claims and can come up plenty more showing the police don't want to be filmed. All you have done is make unsubstantiated claims with unsupportable numbers (99%). That BS about the NY police union not doing what the members want because they just like to argue is pretty laughable. You have anything to support your claims?

- hardly ever are there links to support the side that Cops do their job well, and a lot of cops would like body cams but the State / City they live in are too cheap to put them in the budget. You will also note, that they cite some of the most horrible places in the US... which is hardly speaking for the majority of the cops in US... but that Merg found cites at all...

Actually - on one of these threads - someone claimed the reason Cops don't get praise for doing their job, is because they are doing their job... which... really, seriously - firefighters are doing their jobs, nurses and doctors theirs, waiters theirs - yet they all get praise and the last gets more money... we live in a society that does a lot of praising of people for doing their job, especially in the public service sector - yet for some reason Cops should not be among them... uh huh...

 

[piasabird]

This just shows that all cops consider someone to be armed unless they have been frisked first. It would seem he was killed because he had an attitude and disrespect for police and refused to comply with the police which equals resisting arrest. Being a police officer is really complicated.