Boberg XR9-S 9mm

[pontifex]

Check out this little gun. http://www.bobergarms.com/


Pretty interesting and a bit unconventional design for a handgun. It's a pricey little ah heck too!

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Yeah but $850?

It does look like the smallest CC firearm I've seen in a 9mm, but that's a lot of dough for an 'unproven' gun.

 

[Kelvrick]

Kahr PM9 seems like a safer choice to make from what I see.

 

[thepd7]

Yeah but $850?

It does look like the smallest CC firearm I've seen in a 9mm, but that's a lot of dough for an 'unproven' gun.

seriously. Twice the price of an LCP?

I know a lot of people say 9mm is the smallest you should go but at the ranges you are talking about 6 rounds of .380 hollow point is PLENTY.

 

[Kabob]

$850 for an unproven "look how much better we are!" gimmick gun vs. $500 for a Glock 26/Khar PM9...absolutely no contest.

 

[LTC8K6]

Plus they are using +P ammo and comparing it to regular ammo in the other gun...

* Similar-sized gun is not +P rated

 

[Kabob]

Plus they are using +P ammo and comparing it to regular ammo in the other gun...

It doesn't say that the ammo used is +p, it just says the other weapon can't handle +p. Of course, I can't think of any decent pistol nowadays that can't handle +p...maybe they were using a Hi-Point or something?

 

[LTC8K6]

It doesn't say that the ammo used is +p, it just says the other weapon can't handle +p. Of course, I can't think of any decent pistol nowadays that can't handle +p...maybe they were using a Hi-Point or something?

That's how they are getting the higher numbers, imo.

 

[LTC8K6]

Of course being able to fire the +P is an advantage. Whether it will be fun to do so in that gun is another question.

 

[pontifex]

seriously. Twice the price of an LCP?

I know a lot of people say 9mm is the smallest you should go but at the ranges you are talking about 6 rounds of .380 hollow point is PLENTY.

Almost 3 times as much an an LCP. I've been seeing them go for $299.99 a lot lately.

 

[sourceninja]

The big question is that with a gun that short and a round with that much power how you control it to hit anything that your not touching.

 

[thepd7]

Almost 3 times as much an an LCP. I've been seeing them go for $299.99 a lot lately.

Fair enough. When I got mine right when they came out they were more like $350-400. For that price get two, one for each pocket!

The big question is that with a gun that short and a round with that much power how you control it to hit anything that your not touching.

This is my point. My LCP actually shoots pretty well but I still don't feel comfortable past 5-7 yards (and it took me 4 boxes to get there). Add in the slight extra kick of 9mm and you are really only using this gun for close quarters personal protection. At this range I don't feel like 7 rounds of 9mm gives you anything 6 rounds of .380 doesn't.

 

[sourceninja]

This is my point. My LCP actually shoots pretty well but I still don't feel comfortable past 5-7 yards (and it took me 4 boxes to get there). Add in the slight extra kick of 9mm and you are really only using this gun for close quarters personal protection. At this range I don't feel like 7 rounds of 9mm gives you anything 6 rounds of .380 doesn't.

Not just the extra kick of a 9mm. The extra Kick of a 9mm +P. There is a significant difference imho. Like shooting 38 +P vs 357 out of my S&W 686.

 

[nick1985]

Almost 3 times as much an an LCP. I've been seeing them go for $299.99 a lot lately.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1RULCP380&groupid=3







Only thing about the .380, is there are tests that show hollow point .380 are not that effective against a heavy down/leather jacket or other heavy clothing. Most say its best to just use FMJ's if using a .380 for self defense.

Personally I wouldnt feel comfortable with anything less than a 9mm

 

[thepd7]

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1RULCP380&groupid=3


Only thing about the .380, is there are tests that show hollow point .380 are not that effective against a heavy down/leather jacket or other heavy clothing. Most say its best to just use FMJ's if using a .380 for self defense.

Personally I wouldnt feel comfortable with anything less than a 9mm

Damn that's a good deal.

Good luck carrying anything in Texas in the summer then. Personally I feel fine shooting someone 5 feet away with 6 bullets of anything.

 

[pontifex]

The big question is that with a gun that short and a round with that much power how you control it to hit anything that your not touching.

They have video of people firing the guns. now whether they were staged in some way, we'll never know, but the recoil seems very manageable.

 

[deadlyapp]

While I prefer a .45 for self defense and daily carry, I don't dispute the pros of having a very compact weapon. Trying to come onto the scene with something that lots of other guns already have is difficult, especially at that price range.

Personally I'll probably pick up a kahr as a backup rig in addition to a daily carry .45. The availability and reliability of them has been proven and the diversity of the 9mm round is what sells me on it. while the ballistics between a .380 and 9mm are similar, I believe a 9mm is more useful.

And personally I feel that the whole +P issue has become overblown. I don't dispute that the extra pressure is nice, it's not really necessary when going against an unprotected soft target.

 

[gooseman]

That gun is too fucking ugly for me to carry!

 

[chin311]

Damn that's a good deal.

Good luck carrying anything in Texas in the summer then. Personally I feel fine shooting someone 5 feet away with 6 bullets of anything.

lol right.

i just picked up that ruger 380 at gander mountain locally, 299$. nice little thing.

 

[sourceninja]

I honestly don't feel the need for anything smaller then my Walther PPS 9mm. I can wear it with nothing more then shorts and a T-shirt and it's invisible.

 

[sdifox]

Looking at guns after losing your job is not a good combination.

 

[thepd7]

I honestly don't feel the need for anything smaller then my Walther PPS 9mm. I can wear it with nothing more then shorts and a T-shirt and it's invisible.

what are your stats?

 

[sourceninja]

what are your stats?

Currently I have 0 confirmed kills and no deaths.

OH wait....I know what you mean

I'm 5'10" and 170 pounds.

 

[Kabob]

Of course being able to fire the +P is an advantage. Whether it will be fun to do so in that gun is another question.

Well yeah, but it doesn't say that +p was used for either pistol in the testing, it just says the other can't handle +p. I mean, it's possible that said "XR9-S" did use +p to get those numbers but I don't see it written.