BluRay losing it's appeal

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Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Pocatello
I wonder if Sony's PS3, being billed as "a thousand times more powerful than any current PC", is overhyped too.

1000 my ass.. its only got the equivelent of a 7800 Nvidia card in it they have said.
and a cell proc.. that does not = 1000x anything.

Head of Sony America said the PS2 would be the beginning of the end of the PC. :laugh:

Blu-Ray: The BetaMax of the new millenium!
 

Freejack2

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It's Beta versus VHS all over again. Who backed Beta last time? Sony. Which format lost? Beta.
Need I say more?
 

OneOfTheseDays

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while the jump from 30GB to 50GB is pretty substantial, not many people are gonna have much of a use for 50GB discs. Sure movie studios could put all kinds of cool stuff on these 50GB discs, but 30GB should be fine for high-def content plus the usual extras. Add to it the fact that HD-DVD's will be very cheap to make and will require manufacturers to only make slight changes, I think we are seeing a clear winner already.

In this case, there is more to consider then just the technical aspects.
 

ironcrotch

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Originally posted by: dwell
Just Microsoft propaganda to try and stop Blu-Ray hype. With the HD-DVD supporters sitting on their hands and Toshiba delaying release to next year, they have to do whatever they can to spread FUD about Blu-Ray. With no lead time, HD-DVD has no chance of catching on.

QFMFT
 

Spike

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Originally posted by: Freejack2
It's Beta versus VHS all over again. Who backed Beta last time? Sony. Which format lost? Beta.
Need I say more?

I am no fan of blu-ray and I would agree with you except that there are alot of other big backers of this tech, like panasonic, who are putting there full weight behind it. We will just have to wait and see what happens...

As it stands now, I can't even image what the money lost per PS3 will be if Sony continues with the blu-ray design, or the price they will have to charge to come even close to breaking even.
 

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Interesting read. Doesn't mater to me, I just wish they'd make up their minds and pick one instead of going to market with both like the stupid +/- crap we have now.

We'll know the winner when the porn industry picks a format.
 

Linux23

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Interesting read. Doesn't mater to me, I just wish they'd make up their minds and pick one instead of going to market with both like the stupid +/- crap we have now.

We'll know the winner when the porn industry picks a format.

QFT.

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Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
while the jump from 30GB to 50GB is pretty substantial, not many people are gonna have much of a use for 50GB discs. Sure movie studios could put all kinds of cool stuff on these 50GB discs, but 30GB should be fine for high-def content plus the usual extras. Add to it the fact that HD-DVD's will be very cheap to make and will require manufacturers to only make slight changes, I think we are seeing a clear winner already.

In this case, there is more to consider then just the technical aspects.


chinese pirate factories for the win!
 

imported_goku

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Originally posted by: jamesbond007
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Originally posted by: Pocatello
I wonder if Sony's PS3, being billed as "a thousand times more powerful than any current PC", is overhyped too.

1000 my ass.. its only got the equivelent of a 7800 Nvidia card in it they have said.
and a cell proc.. that does not = 1000x anything.

Maybe 1000 x a 386SX processor from 1992? :p

And I guess maybe only 500 X a 386SX processor from 1998?
 

Spike

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Interesting read. Doesn't mater to me, I just wish they'd make up their minds and pick one instead of going to market with both like the stupid +/- crap we have now.

We'll know the winner when the porn industry picks a format.

Yah, if you could only burn pron on one particular format that one would dominate
 

13Gigatons

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For me it's all about bang for the buck and what's pragmatic.

HD-DVD

1. Burns 20 gigs on a single layer
2. Easy to produce so the media will cost less
3. 30 gig dual layer should be enough for HD Video

BluRay

1. Burns 27 gig on a single layer
2. More costly production means media will cost more
3. 54 gig on a dual layer if and when they get it out of the lab
4. Thinner protective layer could cause problems.

I'm leaning more towards HD-DVD now because I have a feeling Dual Layer isn't going to be a reality with home burners since it's more complex and cost a lot more. Hell dual layer still isn't much of a factor with todays DVD burners.
 

AnitaPeterson

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I believe you are skimping the article... what I find interesting is this part:

"Blu-ray failed the Intel/Microsoft test in six critical areas, Ribas told us, referring to a document listing those areas that a Microsoft spokesperson provided to Tom's Hardware Guide:

First, and perhaps foremost, is the ability for a consumer to make authorized copies of a legally obtained disc, in order to store the content on a hard drive and stream it to devices around the house. Intel particularly wants this capability for its Viiv home entertainment platform, announced last month."

Ahhh... finally someone BIG in the industry is giving the finger to DMCA!!!
 

randomlinh

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Originally posted by: AnitaPeterson
First, and perhaps foremost, is the ability for a consumer to make authorized copies of a legally obtained disc, in order to store the content on a hard drive and stream it to devices around the house. Intel particularly wants this capability for its Viiv home entertainment platform, announced last month."

Ahhh... finally someone BIG in the industry is giving the finger to DMCA!!!

that is good to hear
 

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Interesting read. Doesn't mater to me, I just wish they'd make up their minds and pick one instead of going to market with both like the stupid +/- crap we have now.

We'll know the winner when the porn industry picks a format.

HD-DVDA!
 

manly

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Originally posted by: kranky
My morning paper reported that Microsoft and Intel have announced support for HD-DVD.
Besides the likely success of the PS3, it's all over for Blu-Ray.