Bluray launch time

Rubycon

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Is there any reason why it takes minutes for a bd movie to start playing?

After years of having movies on HDD and being able to play INSTANTLY this is infuriatingly frustrating to say the least.

It may take time but at least rips in 720P look far better than original DVDs and take up less space to boot. :D
 

JackBurton

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BD loading on a standard stand alone player is general pretty slow. However if you want speed, check out the new Oppo players (BDP-93 and BDP-95). They're pretty quick loading BDs.
 

s44

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Is there any reason why it takes minutes for a bd movie to start playing?
(1) Because it has to load Java.
(2) Because you have an old player. Get one of the high-ranked ones here.*

*Oppo 93 isn't on the chart, but gets a 9.5 here -- better than most but slower than new Samsungs and the cheap/low-end LG 530.
 
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queequeg99

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check out the new Oppo players (BDP-93 and BDP-95). They're pretty quick loading BDs.

Based on the AVSforum users, Oppo players are pretty much the fastest loading players out there. PS3 is also pretty fast. JVC used to make a very fast player (the XV-BP-1) which is as fast as the Oppos but costs much less. But the player has been discontinued for well over a year and its successor sucks. There are some LG players which appear to be clones of the BP-1 which may be very fast. Check out AVSforum for more information. There are a number of threads in the BD player subforum that have loading time statistics for various BD players and movies.
 

s44

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Based on the AVSforum users, Oppo players are pretty much the fastest loading players out there. PS3 is also pretty fast.
PS3 was fast at the time but has been easily surpassed. A cheap Samsung or LG will actually beat any Oppo for speed.
 

Rubycon

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I have a new Samsung and it's quoted as being fast. I've seen the PS3 open them and it's definitely slower.

Fast perhaps if you have a 5400 RPM HDD and think your PC is fast!

Fast it's not.

If a disc is in the tray, power on to menu screen in 1 second would be nice. :)
 

Rubycon

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It's even painfully slow on my PC now as I've noticed. Using Power DVD 10. CPU use at 0 the entire time. Is this due to DRM?

I can see why so many people prefer to rip everything to HDD.
 

velillen

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Try having the first Sony bluray player they released (well pretty much the first) the like BDP-3000 i think it was (model number is probably wrong but its a good 3-4 years old). Takes like 2 minute sjust to turn the damn thing on just to be able to insert the disc lol. then a good 2-3minutes of loading just to press play. But o well it works :)

The PS3 isnt bad, much quicker than our other bluray player. But meh i use the HTPC primarily now.

As for the HTPC, Really for the last movie i watch (ski movie mind you so not real hollywood or anything) soon as i put the disc in TMT5 opens up and starts playing. Took all of maybe 15 seconds which isnt to bad :)

But anymore i do just rip the video and audio to an mkv (untouched video/audio) and play it that way since ihate changing discs.
 

novasatori

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I can see why so many people prefer to rip everything to HDD.


That was actually going to be my suggestion, if you were after speed.

HDD rips with a Popcorn Hour C-200 or something that can play the BD ISOs with menu support, they will load a movie in just a couple seconds.
 

Sephire

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It's even painfully slow on my PC now as I've noticed. Using Power DVD 10. CPU use at 0 the entire time. Is this due to DRM?

I can see why so many people prefer to rip everything to HDD.

Slysoft's AnyDVD HD will speed that up really fast ():)
 

Dirigible

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That was actually going to be my suggestion, if you were after speed.

HDD rips with a Popcorn Hour C-200 or something that can play the BD ISOs with menu support, they will load a movie in just a couple seconds.

Are there any boxes out now that can play BD ISOs, DVD ISOs, stream Netflix, .ts files (I have files from WMC converted and played via xbmc), .mkv files, and .mpg files (from tivo, played back via xbmc)? That should take care of all my present needs.
 

djnsmith7

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Play them off your HDD & have a 5 second load time, like I do. That will beat any stand alone player on the market, hands down.
 

sivart

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My blu-ray player takes about 30 seconds before you can open the tray (old LG HD-DVD / Blu-ray combo device). However, my projector takes about 30 seconds to turn on and show an image, so I can live with it :)

My brother has a 1 year old Samsung that is pretty fast at loading discs. After all these things are just super slow computers that must load java (as mentioned before)
 

Rubycon

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Yes the interface speed is slow. I thought smart phones were bad. :biggrin:
 

The-Noid

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Ruby, do you care about most of the extra features?

I have all of my blu-rays ripped to either .mkv (it can be done in one step now with ripbot264 and anydvdhd) or directory structure if I want the added features.

Both will play out of Media Center classic, however I use SageTV for its abilities to change filters for each type of media.
 

Rubycon

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Ruby, do you care about most of the extra features?

I have all of my blu-rays ripped to either .mkv (it can be done in one step now with ripbot264 and anydvdhd) or directory structure if I want the added features.

Both will play out of Media Center classic, however I use SageTV for its abilities to change filters for each type of media.

Absolutely not. I have approximately 4600 DVDs that were ripped and on a SAN. When they are played there are no extras - just the film. I don't care for menus, and especially preview movies. I think it's absurd that some disks have 10 previews and your player gives you the finger when you try skipping them! :thumbsdown:

DVD Shrink 4-ever!

Never understood the fascination behind java for single platform uses such as this.


Java is best kept in a circular container that's tilted when needed. :p
 

MrChad

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It's even painfully slow on my PC now as I've noticed. Using Power DVD 10. CPU use at 0 the entire time. Is this due to DRM?

I can see why so many people prefer to rip everything to HDD.

Is it DRM or just the speed of the BD drive?
 

Rubycon

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Is it DRM or just the speed of the BD drive?

I don't know as I don't have any BD (data) discs to see how fast the drive is.

Rips it is! A 720P rip looks better than an (uncompressed) DVD and takes up a little less space! Win-win!
 

JackBurton

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Absolutely not. I have approximately 4600 DVDs that were ripped and on a SAN. When they are played there are no extras - just the film. I don't care for menus, and especially preview movies. I think it's absurd that some disks have 10 previews and your player gives you the finger when you try skipping them! :thumbsdown:

DVD Shrink 4-ever!




Java is best kept in a circular container that's tilted when needed. :p

SAN or a NAS?