Blue Screen of Death

[zsdersw]

The poll means nothing, and all of the anecdotal experiences of people who've posted in this thread means something because those experiences are detailed and specific... and yet you still cling to and/or defend the poll? I'm afraid I'm going to have to question the presence of your mental faculties.

 

[wordsworm]

Originally posted by: zsdersw
The poll means nothing, and all of the anecdotal experiences of people who've posted in this thread means something because those experiences are detailed and specific... and yet you still cling to and/or defend the poll? I'm afraid I'm going to have to question the presence of your mental faculties.

Perhaps what you really need to do is examine yourself for the same. The poll isn't perfect, but it's nonetheless shown that more people have BSoDs through Intel machines than AMD. It doesn't answer the question that comes immediately after, which is why are AMD machines more stable than Intel.

Some people have taken this poll to mean that I'm trying to attack Intel, and all the Intel fans have come out to defend their precious brand. I really don't care. I fully expected the numbers to be identical on either platform.

 

[lopri]

Originally posted by: wordsworm
Lopri, just wondering if you get BSoDs on any of those machines you run. If so, which ones tend to be more problematic? I'm just curious.

The No.1 title of the most BSOD goes to my previous 680i. Bar none. Regardless of whatever OS. 780i has been hassle-free so far, though. (I've only had it for 3 days)

I did have more BSOD on Intel platform, yes, but that is 99% due to overclocking. In other words, once I find the sweet spot for the overclocking as well as 4 sticks of RAM, it was rock solid and I haven't felt there was any difference between AMD platform. After that, BSOD is usually a byproduct of bad drivers or less-than perfect OS, degraded memory, or other non-CPU related chipset issues, etc. (e.g. nForce RAID for both AMD/Intel platform)

 

[Anubis]

Intel Vista 64 no I haven't

its ony been running for a week tho LOLOLOLOL

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: mindless1
The thread should be locked, there is nothing useful about it or the line of thinking.

I agree.

I second that.....

I had AMD systems from 1998-2001...intel systems from 2001-2004...amd systems from 2004-2006...intel systems from 2006 to present...

All have had some experience with BSOD. Most all of them in my instance were related to overclocked cpu and memory issues....

I have seen them result from software issues...
I have seen them result from faulty memory sticks...

Generally not cpus unless unstable at overclocking, or damaged...


I have to say if the OP truly believes what he is suggesting then he shows he doesn't really know enough about cpus and systems to making this statement....therefore I would chalk it up to user incompetence

 

[wordsworm]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: myocardia

Originally posted by: mindless1
The thread should be locked, there is nothing useful about it or the line of thinking.

I agree.

I second that.....

I had AMD systems from 1998-2001...intel systems from 2001-2004...amd systems from 2004-2006...intel systems from 2006 to present...

All have had some experience with BSOD. Most all of them in my instance were related to overclocked cpu and memory issues....

I have seen them result from software issues...
I have seen them result from faulty memory sticks...

Generally not cpus unless unstable at overclocking, or damaged...


I have to say if the OP truly believes what he is suggesting then he shows he doesn't really know enough about cpus and systems to making this statement....therefore I would chalk it up to user incompetence

Actually, I didn't believe that the chip had to do with the BSoD. That's why I created the poll. The fact that there's more Intel flopping than AMD took me by surprise. But, as is the case with polls and chance, sometimes you'll get 4 or 5 heads in a row when starting the statistic. It doesn't necessarily mean that heads comes up more often. However, for people who actually enjoy statistics, we might very well make a statistic to find out if heads or tails come up more often.

So, get your rocks off on some other muck. I wish you techno-Nazis would just get off my back and actually let me enjoy this thread rather than have to suffer the barbs of your flames. (yes, I mixed the metaphor on purpose)

 

[zsdersw]

Originally posted by: wordswormPerhaps what you really need to do is examine yourself for the same. The poll isn't perfect, but it's nonetheless shown that more people have BSoDs through Intel machines than AMD. It doesn't answer the question that comes immediately after, which is why are AMD machines more stable than Intel.

The part of your comment I put in bold is exactly what I'm talking about when I say your mental faculties are in question. The "data" in the poll doesn't say anything about stability of AMD machines compared to the stability of Intel machines. What part of this don't you understand: Intel processor machines are more common among people here and among those running Vista. Stability doesn't necessarily have anything to do with it.

Perhaps you should actually *look* at your useless poll: (results accurate as of the time this post was made)

Total AMD with BSOD: 6
Total Intel with BSOD: 8

Total AMD: 27
Total Intel: 35

Ratio between AMD and Intel in both: 3/4 (75-77%)

Some people have taken this poll to mean that I'm trying to attack Intel, and all the Intel fans have come out to defend their precious brand. I really don't care. I fully expected the numbers to be identical on either platform.

This poll means nothing.. and if you'd recognize that I think you'd find a lot less flames headed in your direction.

 

[AmberClad]

Well, I'll say this again, this time more explicitly (and I think some others have pointed this out as well). OP, you haven't listed your system specs, other than a Q6600 and some Nvidia chipset board. Which board exactly? What RAM? If you're honestly interested in people helping you track down your problems, then post your full specs, because I fail to see how some speculative poll is going to help.

Plenty of people are running 4+ GB of RAM on Intel CPUs and chipsets without issue. Some people who have had issues have reported success with BIOS updates from their board manufacturer (this includes some of the nForce boards, some which have trouble with more than 2 dimms installed).

 

[wordsworm]

Originally posted by: AmberClad
Well, I'll say this again, this time more explicitly (and I think some others have pointed this out as well). OP, you haven't listed your system specs, other than a Q6600 and some Nvidia chipset board. Which board exactly? What RAM? If you're honestly interested in people helping you track down your problems, then post your full specs, because I fail to see how some speculative poll is going to help.

Plenty of people are running 4+ GB of RAM on Intel CPUs and chipsets without issue. Some people who have had issues have reported success with BIOS updates from their board manufacturer (this includes some of the nForce boards, some which have trouble with more than 2 dimms installed).

Let me put it this way. Imagine someone comes up to you, calls you an idiot, and then asks you a question. How would you respond? Would you answer the question or tell them to jump off a tall building?

Really, I haven't had a system crash since I originally started the post, which was more than a week ago. I already know that it was an issue with memory. I already know that there's a big difference between the way AMD and Intel deal with memory. I also know that the Vista update had a major impact with the machine. As I said, I couldn't even boot the computer until I swapped out the 2x2GB for 2x1GB. I swapped them back in after a day or two, suffered some BSoDs, and then it seems to be OK. As for helpful people in the forums - the whole problem started when I was dumb enough to actually follow some people's advice about doing a BIOS update using a windows utility. Next thing I know, I have a dead board and I had to replace it - the only thing the software did was erase the BIOS, it failed to rewrite it. I decided to replace the board, CPU (AMD -> Intel), and subsequently had to buy the OS a second time (OEM). Total cost of about $500.

In any case, I wasn't really looking for help. I just wanted to see what would happen with the poll. As was unexpected, and I pointed out, there was an AMD advantage. As I said, I figured this was just an anomaly.

But this brings me back to my original point: a bunch of techno nazis come out both insulting me, my intelligence, or my ability to logically deduce (ironically posted by someone who had little understanding of what a real syllogism is, the history of it, or likely even the history of logic and reason).

 

[wordsworm]

Originally posted by: zsdersw

Originally posted by: wordswormPerhaps what you really need to do is examine yourself for the same. The poll isn't perfect, but it's nonetheless shown that more people have BSoDs through Intel machines than AMD. It doesn't answer the question that comes immediately after, which is why are AMD machines more stable than Intel.

The part of your comment I put in bold is exactly what I'm talking about when I say your mental faculties are in question. The "data" in the poll doesn't say anything about stability of AMD machines compared to the stability of Intel machines. What part of this don't you understand: Intel processor machines are more common among people here and among those running Vista. Stability doesn't necessarily have anything to do with it.

Perhaps you should actually *look* at your useless poll: (results accurate as of the time this post was made)

Total AMD with BSOD: 6
Total Intel with BSOD: 8

Total AMD: 27
Total Intel: 35

Ratio between AMD and Intel in both: 3/4 (75-77%)

Some people have taken this poll to mean that I'm trying to attack Intel, and all the Intel fans have come out to defend their precious brand. I really don't care. I fully expected the numbers to be identical on either platform.

This poll means nothing.. and if you'd recognize that I think you'd find a lot less flames headed in your direction.

I guess math and percentages confused the heck out of you in grade school.

This was my earlier post when there were about 52 total votes:
19% AMD
26% Intel

Now the numbers are based on 65 votes:
28 votes AMD 7 yes 21 no
37 votes Intel 10 yes 27 no

Now a little math lesson.
7/28= 25% AMD BSoD
10/37=27% Intel BSoD

Now if reading wasn't another one of your challenges in life, you'd have been able to catch in this thread when I said that the earlier number that was well in favor of AMD was likely an anomaly, and further that I didn't expect there to be a difference between one platform or the other. I wanted to make sure, and the numbers are now close enough that I can see that clearly. So, your dumb assertion that this poll serves no purpose is in itself shot down. It served the purpose I set out.

Now, before you question my mental faculties, perhaps you ought to try gaining some basic reading and math through some special education classes.

Whether or not this poll is useful or not is irrelevant. I wanted to get some numbers, so I posted it. Don't think you can roll over me just because you have numbers on your side. I had no problem with high school bullies, and they had no problem with me, except when they went after a friend of mine. I took care of that one incident and stopped an awful lot of kids in their tracks with no one at my back. So if you think you and your little pinheads can scare me with these retarded tactics, let me tell you something else: my wit is well whetted for twerps like you and whomever else wants to mess with me. Now go find someone with a far more delicate constitution to get your free lunch.

Now stop wasting my time.

 

[zsdersw]

Originally posted by: wordsworm
So, your dumb assertion that this poll serves no purpose is in itself shot down. It served the purpose I set out.

It serves no purpose because it doesn't tell you anything you couldn't have figured out without it.

Whether or not this poll is useful or not is irrelevant. I wanted to get some numbers, so I posted it.

I don't care what you wanted out of the poll.. it's still useless.

Don't think you can roll over me just because you have numbers on your side. I had no problem with high school bullies, and they had no problem with me, except when they went after a friend of mine. I took care of that one incident and stopped an awful lot of kids in their tracks with no one at my back. So if you think you and your little pinheads can scare me with these retarded tactics, let me tell you something else: my wit is well whetted for twerps like you and whomever else wants to mess with me. Now go find someone with a far more delicate constitution to get your free lunch.

Talk is cheap, kiddo.

Now stop wasting my time.

I'll do whatever I please.