Blue Screen of Death Error - any ideas?

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dmw16

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The thing is this, it is an on-board controller. I really dont know what the trouble is. The game that keeps on crashing isnt even on the ATA/100 controller. Not to mention that the whole thing has been crashing long before I even isntalled the ATA/100 drive. Im really getting tired of trying to get this thing working.
-doug
 

javathehut

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my advice, give up on Win 98! It stinks. Go with 2000 and all your troubles may disappear. I used to get blue screens all the time with 98, vxd ones too. It could be conflicts or crappy drivers.
 

Dulanic

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Try going into the BIOS and changing System Performance to Normal instead of Optimal.... Also try moving your RAM to a different memory slot..... Check the CPU temp in the BIOS and come back and tell me what it is...

Also put your cards in these PCI Slots

AGP - GeForce
PCI1- Empty
PCI2- Empty
PCI3- SB Live (Also tell it in the BIOS to make PCI3 use IRQ5.
PCI4- NIC
PCI5- Empty

You can also try the NIC in PCI2.

It sounds like your using Generic memory..... that CAN be the problem... I had some generic crap that worked in my P5A but not my A7V... it worked but it caused lockups. But try my above sugestions first.
 

vancur

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Searched around on the web. Apparently, you're not the only person with this problem. Its not exactly an AMD prob either, since intel people also get the prob. The general consensus is that the prob you're having (bsod and VXD VMM errors) are related to your processor. Some have mentioned fan probs, but that doesn't seem to make much sense. Most have mentioned voltage adjustments. So, you might have to adjust your voltage by 0.1 +/-? What's your voltage set to now?

- Van-Cur
 

Maverick

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Bottom line:
VIA SUCKS!

I've had more problems with incompatibilities with my VIA chipset than I ever had with my first generation BX board. You'd think that 2 or 3 year old hardware shouldn't have too much trouble in a new motherboard. And this isn't crappy stuff...a 3COM nic, a SB Live Value, and an Adaptec 2940UW scsi card.

Those three devices have given my system IRQ conflicts galore that just don't want to fix themselves. This never happened with my BX board. DVD playback sucks too since all my DVD programs crash my computer with DMA enabled...and run really really slow with DMA disabled.

I'm very unsatisfied with VIA...its a pity that its the only real solution for AMD owners. Seems like you simply can't win with PCs these days. Either a bad chip, good chipset combo from Intel...or a good chip, bad chipset combo from AMD. Its almost enough to make me look at macs.....ALMOST.
 

dmw16

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Alright guys, these last few posts have been great! This gives me somewhere to go. I was thinking Win2K, but I was worried this is just another varible to mix things up, it will be my last resort. I will try the voltage thing and I will move around my nic and change to normal instead of optimal. I email mwave(where I bought the stuff) and the first question they asked is if I removed the film from the stock heatsink they sent me:D If you are good enough to build your own system, wouldnt you know to remove the film?:) Anyway, Im hoping to get the bottom of this soon. Thanks again for all of the help. Oh yeah, Im using Kingston RAM, if that matters at all.
thanks,
-doug
 

dmw16

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Here is the cpu/mobo info:
Motherboard: 25°C/77°F
CPU: 55°C/131°F
Voltage(Im guessing the core voltage is what you would be interested in):1.84
-doug
 

dmw16

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more error info. I bumped the core voltage and I got a blue screen that said "0028:C00516D1" and then i hit ENTER and got an illegal operation from "rundll32". So I rebooted and for a blue screen that said "0028:D52A22A0"(smile should be a ":" and then a "D"). I moved my NIC to slot 4 and my SB Live to slot 3 and it is no more stable than before. I also changed to normal instead of optimal, still, no more stability. What am I to do?
thanks,
-doug
 

Dulanic

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It sounds like you might have a bad board or CPU (Can go bad during shipping) on your hands.... Try underclocking the CPU to like 500Mhz... if that works its probably the CPU, if it still causes problems you may have a bad MB or it still could possibly be the RAM, but I havent heard many problems with Kingston.
 

dmw16

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Bad mobo and cpu? I was hoping that wasnt the case, but if so, then so be it. Guess it means I will be without if that is the situation. As for true 100, I will try that next and then, if it still isnt stable I will under clock it. I was wondering, after I try one of these fixes, is there a way to test the system's stability? Should I just do what I always do when it crashes? Also, when I boot up windows I see, in the DOS screen(you know, windows splash screen and then you see the DOS screen again and then the splash again)something about C:....\DOSDRV\... not loading SB16 emulation, but then, in windows, SB16 emulation shows up in my device manager. Is this just something in my config.sys and should I not worry about it in windows? Just to ask once more, there is no reason the SB Live X-Gamer 5.1 shouldnt work, is there? Because mwave tech support asked me if I was using an SB live card. I just want to have all of the facts when I call them today or tomorrow. I would really like to get a new board as soon as possible, if that is the problem - Im getting really tired of all the crap this one gives me.
thanks,
-doug
 

vancur

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I doubt this would do much of anything, but it will help answer one of your last questions about dos screens when booting. You don't really need the autoexec.bat and config.sys files to run windows. You could prevent them from loading by going to the command prompt when your system is booting (press F8 until a menu comes up). Edit your config.sys and autoexec.bat files and add "rem " before each listed command. If changing this files doesn't help, delete the "rem "s.
Do you have any CPUs or MBs that you could swap in to see if it is a bad mobo?
 

vancur

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Just thought of this one... I know you need your video card, but you don't "need" you sound card. Have you tried booting without the sound card? I think its worth a try. Heard some people having probs with sound emulation. If you're gonna do it, be sure to uninstall the software if possible.
Just a thought...
 

dmw16

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I do have an old mobo and cpu, but it is a slot1 mobo and slot1 cpu, so there isnt really much I can do. I think I will go into msconfig and take care of all that crap in the config.sys. I think I really need to figure out if it is hardware or software. I think I might try win2k after I talk to mwave and asus(who I intend to call today).
thanks,
-doug