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Blue-Ray VS HD-DVD The Untold Story.

videoclone

videoclone

Golden Member
I want to....

Backup my 300GB hard drive on 6 Blue-Ray disks OR i can
Backup my 300GB hard drive on 10 HD-DVD Disks

Blue Ray = WIN

I also want to Burn some of my 700Mb Divx / Xvid files onto a Disk

I can burn 71 of these files onto 1 Blue-Ray disk and with
HD-DVD I can burn 42 files

Again Blue Ray = WIN

OMG Guys why is it that in every single discussion about Blue-Ray VS HD-DVD all of you disregard the PC fact of the argument ...

I stated the advantage of blue-ray in a BIG way and for all of you people comparing this to VHS VS Beta its not the same thing this time around because of PC's

The Computer industry is allot bigger then the DVD/Movie industry so it would have allot more weight in the direction of what standard becomes number 1

Its not all about those players that sit under TV sets anymore its also about what?s better for PC's and everyone knows its Blue-ray .. hence the reason why every PC hardware manufacture and his cat is backing it.

It?s also the same reason why they Back AMD ?. The industry follows Intel but the Asian companies that are not Intel & Microsoft puppets make AMD motherboard and support it.

I think we will still see blue-ray on PC's weather it loses to HD-DVD or not.
When people want the best ( AMD - Blue-Ray ) Companies are always there to support it Even if Intel and Microsoft wont! ( AMD - Blue-Ray ) Ahhmm Don?t bag me it?s a good example.

^___^ Any thoughts?
 
What would you think of the bluray drive cost $300 and the HD-DVD drive cost $150?

The technology for burning them is different. Also, there is the liscenscing thing. Liscenscing costs from sony will probably drive up the price of bluray media to above $10 for a Bluray-RW on release.
 
Really (not trying to be a troll), who cares.

The movie/music/computer industry will go nuts to get us to upgrade, and then they will change formats yet again (those holographic disks?? http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/19/toshiba_optware_investment/)

Both formats have their pros and cons, and the consumer is the loser in the end.

DVD's were supposed to be the "ultimate" medium for movies, and everyone raced out to buy some to replace their "fuzzy" VHS collections. And now the industry wants us to do it again. No thanks.

As for computers, yes more storage space is always welcome - but - how expensive will this be? It took a good 4-5 years for DVD+/-R +/-RWs to come down in price, and now they are "no good". WTF??? Most software still comes on CD, and you are charged a "premium" for the priviledge of getting the DVD version.

As for which format is better, it doesn't matter. The better product rarely wins. It all comes down to market forces and consumer demand. Blu-Ray may rule this contest, but if it is too expensive and the "big players" don't back it, it will lose. Guess what, Blu-Ray may have lost the war already: http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=26489
 
The PC industry has practically zero clout in this debate. Realistically, they probably don't even care. How much software is currently available on DVD? Why on earth would Microsoft, Adobe, or any other software company need 25-50GB capacity discs? Regardless of which format wins, it isn't going to make money for any of the software companies, except blank media producers, so they likely couldn't care less.

Blu-Ray is the technically superior format, but in the end that means little when deciding which side is going to win. You sound more like a fanboy trying to incite a flamefest with all your name dropping, than someone actually genuinely interested in the topic of which format should win and why.
 
it really does not matter to me which ones wins, why does it matter to you?

they are both better then what we have now
 
Most people here would prefer if Blu-Ray won, i'm guessing.

People who don't burn alot of stuff...well they don't care.
 
Tech doesn't always win. I can think of a number of cases of this. One that immediately jumps out in gaming terms is the success of the gameboy and failure of dreamcast. Gameboy was black and white, Game Gear was color. But battery life and maybe other issues allowed gameboy to win. Dreamcast was technically superior and had great games, but the consumer didn't buy.

Its also what companies want. If you were running a production company would you want all new machines that would cost your company millions or would you rather just upgrade the existing machines for a fraction of the cost?

You are looking at this from a one sided point of view, and that is which one holds more. Why doesn't everyone have 500GB hard drives? Thats because they don't NEED them. The same may be true for Blu-Ray. Are people demanding huge capacity? No. At most people might want HD video on discs. This does not require the space that blu-ray provides. Either format is more than enough.
 
I have a hunch that the future of digital data storage will be radically different than the laser-read discs we have today, from CDs to BDs. Perhaps data will no longer be read from discs, but instead stored on solid-state internal memory and transmitted from device to device using wireless technology. At least, that is how I imagine it: a network of wireless appliances, from your television to your desktop to your clock radio, each designed to automatically recognize and interact with its peers.

Sounds dreamy, doesn't it? Well, that's just my prediction, based admittedly on a limited knowledge of electronics technologies, but also an advanced understanding of consumer demands. I wonder...
 
You also have to consider the manufacturing costs of each drive. The Blu-Ray from what I have read is much more expensive to manufacture because the current foundries would have to retool whereas the HD-DVD format requires next to none.
 
Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
You also have to consider the manufacturing costs of each drive. The Blu-Ray from what I have read is much more expensive to manufacture because the current foundries would have to retool whereas the HD-DVD format requires next to none.
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Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't NEC on board with HD-DVD? So I do expect fairly reasonably priced HD-DVD readers/writers).
 
Yup. You forgot about cost and backwards compatibility. HD-DVD will have that. Also, I read where they are coming out with a triple-layer HD-DVD disc. This will increase compacity to 45gb. Now with Intel and Microsoft backing HD-DVD it just might be the death blow to Blu-Ray. Don't take this stuff too seriously. Just grab some popcorn and sit back and watch the show. In the end we (consumers) will win. Lower prices and better products. Go competition!
 
blu-ray blank media cost wouldn't be below $2 per disk untill 2010 so i think HD-DVD will win. RD ram was faster but it was hell expensive. Same thing goes for Blu-ray.
 
Originally posted by: videoclone

Backup my 300GB hard drive on 6 Blue-Ray disks OR i can
Backup my 300GB hard drive on 10 HD-DVD Disks

Blue Ray = WIN
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Those 50GB BR discs only exist in Sony's imagination.

 
Originally posted by: klah
Originally posted by: videoclone

Backup my 300GB hard drive on 6 Blue-Ray disks OR i can
Backup my 300GB hard drive on 10 HD-DVD Disks

Blue Ray = WIN
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Those 50GB BR discs only exist in Sony's imagination.
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What are these then? There are both 50 GB BD-R and BD-RE discs in those pictures, some of which are nearly a year old. You will also find a sample TDK 100GB BD-R disc from this months IFA show in Berlin.
 
Sony has been doing a superb job of making the extra capacity of their discs well known while keeping the truth of the discs immense cost vs. HD DVD quiet.
 
Originally posted by: ArneBjarne

What are these then?
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Dummy mockups.


September 27, 2005
Jordi Ribas, Microsoft's director of technology:

The surprise entry in Microsoft's and Intel's list of failures is disc storage capacity. On paper, Blu-ray appears to have the advantage. But the two companies looked beneath the paper: Capacity, said Ribas, "used to be the biggest advantage of Blu-ray, and we believed it. We thought, they'll get 50 GByte BD-ROM discs working, but it's not happening, and it's nowhere in sight. There are not even pilots.
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Originally posted by: videoclone
I want to....

Backup my 300GB hard drive on 6 Blue-Ray disks OR i can
Backup my 300GB hard drive on 10 HD-DVD Disks

Blue Ray = WIN

I also want to Burn some of my 700Mb Divx / Xvid files onto a Disk

I can burn 71 of these files onto 1 Blue-Ray disk and with
HD-DVD I can burn 42 files
Click to expand...

If this were the case with CD vs DVD, where one could hold many times the data of the other, I might be incline to agree with you (even then, I still keep CDs around for Linux ISOs, and other things that I don't want to waste a more expensive DVD for).

As it is, I would be more inclined to support whichever of BD-ROM or HD-DVD is cheaper per GB of storage, and from early indications, that points to HD-DVD. I could care less if all my backup data/files would fit on only 2 BD-ROMs, while it would take 3 (!) whole HD-DVDs to store them :roll:.
 
meh
I don't even have the need for dual layer dvd yet. I started my new comp. @ x-mas and have just ordered a 6600gt for it. Whichever one wins I won't buy until prices are reasonable. Me= cheap bastich. 🙂
 
THG has an interview with MS posted about why they chose HD-DVD. The gist of the article is that all the more advanced features of Blu-Ray are MIA at the moment including production ready 50GB discs, so MS (and Intel) chose to go with the standard that is closer to hitting the market with the specs that were promised.

HD DVD support a last minute switch, Microsoft says
 
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