Blu-ray is dead

[ultimatebob]

Blu-Ray isn't going away any time soon, but it's going to continue to be a niche product until most folks get the 46+ inch 1080p HDTV's and 5.1/7.1 surround sound systems needed to show a noticeable improvement over upscaled DVD's. Even on a new 32" 720p TV, it's hard to see the difference unless you're really close to the screen.

I'm hoping that the need for physical movie media dies off once almost everyone can get 30 Mbps FIOS or DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem service in their neighborhood for 1080p movie streaming, but that's not going to happen for at least another 5 years in this country.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
It figures you would live in crap hole like Irving with at least 750 to 1000 planes taking off and landing over your house a day.

Don't you live in a trailer?

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: tfinch2

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
It figures you would live in crap hole like Irving with at least 750 to 1000 planes taking off and landing over your house a day.

Don't you live in a trailer?

No, I live in a van, down by the river.

Here's my van.

small house style

If your really interested, one of these might be for you.

Obviously most empty, shallow and soulless people who are buying an expensive home also value their enormous self worth, gigantic self esteem and incredible vanity in direct proportions to the expensive house they really can't afford that the bank actually owns. Of course, if you lose the high paying cushy job you use to buy the nice expensive home, you are pretty much screwed to living in your spiffy new SUV, down by the river, next to my rusty paid off van.

I could never figure out why so many spiritually confused and emotionally conflicted people buy bigger houses than they need or can afford just to impress other strangers in the neighborhood who don't give a crap about them or what they own in the first place.

What would Jesus live in? 😕

 

[techwanabe]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Blu-Ray isn't going away any time soon, but it's going to continue to be a niche product until most folks get the 46+ inch 1080p HDTV's and 5.1/7.1 surround sound systems needed to show a noticeable improvement over upscaled DVD's. Even on a new 32" 720p TV, it's hard to see the difference unless you're really close to the screen.

I'm hoping that the need for physical movie media dies off once almost everyone can get 30 Mbps FIOS or DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem service in their neighborhood for 1080p movie streaming, but that it's going to happen for at least another 5 years in this country.

I agree with this pretty much. I was really impressed with a good 1080P source on 46 and 52 inch LCD's which is why I went with my Samsung LN46A650 and PS3 BR player. I have watched some upscaled DVD's and found them to be very decent and some BR movies (depending on quality) are marginally better. Others are amazingly crisp and sharp.

As for physical movie media dying off... While I don't own very many movies, and tend to get them from the library, Blockbuster or Netflix, many people do like having their own copies in a library rather than have to pay some service every time whey want to watch a movie. There is something about owning and not having to pay over an over.

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
Obviously most empty, shallow and soulless people who are buying an expensive home also value their enormous self worth, gigantic self esteem and incredible vanity in direct proportions to the expensive house they really can't afford that the bank actually owns. Of course, if you lose the high paying cushy job you use to buy the nice expensive home, you are pretty much screwed to living in your spiffy new SUV, down by the river, next to my rusty paid off van.

I could never figure out why so many spiritually confused and emotionally conflicted people buy bigger houses than they need or can afford just to impress other strangers in the neighborhood who don't give a crap about them or what they own in the first place.

Wow, tell us how you really feel. But I think you are making it way too complex. It's simply human nature to want more than you can afford. This is a high percentage of the population with mulitple credit cards all charged to the max because of this - talk to any financial advisor - they will tell you story after story.

You are no saint for not being like the rest of the greedy bastards in society. Yes, its a combination of many facters that has sent the world economy into the shitter after the housing debacle. Mainly bank rules have been too loose, investers have been too fast and greedy with financial assets they manage, and people have been all to happy to let the banks loan them money to buy houses they have no business buying and can't really afford in the long term - only the short term. ("sure we can put you in a bigger house!"). The chickens of our greedy matieralistic society are coming home to roost, but I believe there is nothing magical about Americans, any person from any race or country would do the same thing, on the average, if put in similar circumstances.

 

[Blayze]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
I'm hoping that the need for physical movie media dies off once almost everyone can get 30 Mbps FIOS or DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem service in their neighborhood for 1080p movie streaming, but that it's going to happen for at least another 5 years in this country.

Personally I hope physical movie media never dies off, even if it becomes a niche product. I highly doubt almost everyone will have that kind of internet connection in 5 years.

 

[yours truly]

ooh i just pre ordered the german release of fight club

should have my grubby mitts on it in a few weeks

 

[sdifox]

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Blu-Ray isn't going away any time soon, but it's going to continue to be a niche product until most folks get the 46+ inch 1080p HDTV's and 5.1/7.1 surround sound systems needed to show a noticeable improvement over upscaled DVD's. Even on a new 32" 720p TV, it's hard to see the difference unless you're really close to the screen.

I'm hoping that the need for physical movie media dies off once almost everyone can get 30 Mbps FIOS or DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem service in their neighborhood for 1080p movie streaming, but that it's going to happen for at least another 5 years in this country.

I rather have physical media. I like shiny stuff 🙂

 

[blurredvision]

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Blu-Ray isn't going away any time soon, but it's going to continue to be a niche product until most folks get the 46+ inch 1080p HDTV's and 5.1/7.1 surround sound systems needed to show a noticeable improvement over upscaled DVD's. Even on a new 32" 720p TV, it's hard to see the difference unless you're really close to the screen.

I'm hoping that the need for physical movie media dies off once almost everyone can get 30 Mbps FIOS or DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem service in their neighborhood for 1080p movie streaming, but that it's going to happen for at least another 5 years in this country.

I rather have physical media. I like shiny stuff 🙂

Agreed, especially when you consider that downloadable media will be dominated by DRM, meaning that you'll have to buy a new copy for every player you own. I like to have a physical disc that I know will play in a variety of players for a long time to come.

If digital downloads ever materialize as the dominate format, that's probably when I'll quit buying movies.

 

[Baked]

Son of a bitch, Amazon had the Resident Evil trilogy for $31 shipped this morning. Regular price is $50. Gold box deal of the day is 6 bond films on BR for $65.

If you're a Costco member, you should have received a coupon book in the mail w/ a $5 off coupon for all BR movies.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Blu-Ray isn't going away any time soon, but it's going to continue to be a niche product until most folks get the 46+ inch 1080p HDTV's and 5.1/7.1 surround sound systems needed to show a noticeable improvement over upscaled DVD's. Even on a new 32" 720p TV, it's hard to see the difference unless you're really close to the screen.

I'm hoping that the need for physical movie media dies off once almost everyone can get 30 Mbps FIOS or DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem service in their neighborhood for 1080p movie streaming, but that it's going to happen for at least another 5 years in this country.

I rather have physical media. I like shiny stuff 🙂

Agreed, especially when you consider that downloadable media will be dominated by DRM, meaning that you'll have to buy a new copy for every player you own. I like to have a physical disc that I know will play in a variety of players for a long time to come.

If digital downloads ever materialize as the dominate format, that's probably when I'll quit buying movies.

Although I am a total believer in BR for the next 8-10 years as the dominant HD movie medium, I think that around the same time even downloadable media will begin to fade. Cloud media will probably become the de facto standard into the horizon. No local storage whatsoever (might even be outlawed), but whereever you go, you can access your photos, movies, songs, etc.

 

[JackBurton]

Originally posted by: Baked
Son of a bitch, Amazon had the Resident Evil trilogy for $31 shipped this morning. Regular price is $50. Gold box deal of the day is 6 bond films on BR for $65.

If you're a Costco member, you should have received a coupon book in the mail w/ a $5 off coupon for all BR movies.

WOW, thanks Baked! I just got the 007 six pack for <$65!!! 🙂

 

[Arkaign]

Check back after the Dark Knight BR sales this Christmas.

 

[Yreka]

Originally posted by: bananas
downloadable HD content will be the future.

I believe the children are the future. Teach them well, and let them lead the way.

 

[MikeyLSU]

I have a PS3 and love the quality even though my TV is only 720p.

One major hurddle are upscaling DVD players. IMO, this is one of the biggest gimmicks ever. Plenty of people see them as a way to get HD out of their current DVDs for cheap. I can barely tell the difference in DVD and upscaled, it shouldn't even be in the same discussion as actual HD sources.

Yet people see it that way.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

Originally posted by: MikeyLSU
One major hurddle are upscaling DVD players. IMO, this is one of the biggest gimmicks ever. Plenty of people see them as a way to get HD out of their current DVDs for cheap. I can barely tell the difference in DVD and upscaled, it shouldn't even be in the same discussion as actual HD sources.

Yet people see it that way.

obviously it's not as good as hd and bd, but it is a pretty big step up from non-upscaled dvd.
i can definitely tell the difference between upscaled and non-upscaled playback.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: MikeyLSU
One major hurddle are upscaling DVD players. IMO, this is one of the biggest gimmicks ever. Plenty of people see them as a way to get HD out of their current DVDs for cheap. I can barely tell the difference in DVD and upscaled, it shouldn't even be in the same discussion as actual HD sources.

Yet people see it that way.

obviously it's not as good as hd and bd, but it is a pretty big step up from non-upscaled dvd.
i can definitely tell the difference between upscaled and non-upscaled playback.

In BB, CC, etc Black Friday ads:

"Samsung 1080p HD upscale DVD player: $59!"

and people bitch and moan about the consumer being confused about/unwilling to adopt HD. ...go figure.

 

[MikeyLSU]

Originally posted by: zinfamous
In BB, CC, etc Black Friday ads:

"Samsung 1080p HD upscale DVD player: $59!"

and people bitch and moan about the consumer being confused about/unwilling to adopt HD. ...go figure.

Exactly...someone will see that and a blu-ray player next to it for $150(on BF) and will think they are the same. Probably plenty of peopel think they have HD DVDs by having that. And plenty will probably think "its not that great of a picture".

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: blurredvision

Originally posted by: sdifox

Originally posted by: ultimatebob
Blu-Ray isn't going away any time soon, but it's going to continue to be a niche product until most folks get the 46+ inch 1080p HDTV's and 5.1/7.1 surround sound systems needed to show a noticeable improvement over upscaled DVD's. Even on a new 32" 720p TV, it's hard to see the difference unless you're really close to the screen.

I'm hoping that the need for physical movie media dies off once almost everyone can get 30 Mbps FIOS or DOCSIS 3.0 Cable Modem service in their neighborhood for 1080p movie streaming, but that it's going to happen for at least another 5 years in this country.

I rather have physical media. I like shiny stuff 🙂

Agreed, especially when you consider that downloadable media will be dominated by DRM, meaning that you'll have to buy a new copy for every player you own. I like to have a physical disc that I know will play in a variety of players for a long time to come.

If digital downloads ever materialize as the dominate format, that's probably when I'll quit buying movies.

That's the point... people will stop buying movies because it will be so easy to rent them online! Imagine something like Netflix's "Watch Now" feature, but with almost every movie ever made at 1080p video and 7.1 Dolby HD audio quality for either $4 a movie or $19 a month for unlimited viewing from either your computer or cable/sat receiver. THAT is the (perhaps distant) future of the movie industry!

 

[ultimatebob]

Originally posted by: MikeyLSU

Originally posted by: zinfamous
In BB, CC, etc Black Friday ads:

"Samsung 1080p HD upscale DVD player: $59!"

and people bitch and moan about the consumer being confused about/unwilling to adopt HD. ...go figure.

Exactly...someone will see that and a blu-ray player next to it for $150(on BF) and will think they are the same. Probably plenty of peopel think they have HD DVDs by having that. And plenty will probably think "its not that great of a picture".

I have a hunch that's another reason why HD DVD's died... most people didn't know or understand the difference between an HD DVD player and an HD upconverting DVD player. At least Blu-Ray has a different enough name for most people to understand that it's a different product! As long as the movie studios keep using that "BUY IT NOW on DVD OR Blu-Ray!" tag line on those movie trailers at the beginning of their DVD's, I think that people will figure it out.