Bloomberg: Global Oil Layoffs Exceed 100,000

oobydoobydoo

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Seems like there is less and less reason for this Keystone Pipeline to exist every day....

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...r?hootPostID=2bdc0fac78d6c0e755668538b6dabcdb
Global Oil Layoffs Exceed 100,000


(Bloomberg) -- The promise of plentiful jobs and salaries as high as a quarter-million dollars a year lured Colombia native Clara Correa Zappa and her British husband to Perth, Australia, at the height of the continent’s oil and gas frenzy.

Engineers were in high demand in 2012, when oil prices exceeded $100 a barrel, making the move across the world a no-brainer. Within two years, though, oil plunged to less than half the 2012 price and Zappa lost her job as a safety analyst. Now she’s worried her husband, who also works in the commodities industry, could also lose his job.
Such anxieties are rising at a time when the number of energy jobs cut globally have climbed well above 100,000 as once-bustling oil hubs in Scotland, Australia and Brazil, among other countries, empty out, according to Swift Worldwide Resources, a staffing firm with offices across the world.

“It’s shocking,” Zappa, 29, said in a telephone interview. There is “so much pressure for him to keep his job and even work extra.”
Her concerns mirror those of tens of thousands of workers who migrated to oil and gas boomtowns worldwide in the years of $100-a-barrel crude, according to Tobias Read, Swift’s chief executive officer. While much of the focus on layoffs has centered on the U.S., where the shale fields that created the glut have seen the steepest cutbacks, workers in oil-related businesses across the globe are suffering, he said.
Job Insecurity
“The issue is one of uncertainty, of whether there’s a job out there,” Read said in a phone interview. “For seven years, there was a shortage of staff. Now for the first time, there’s a surplus. Currently almost no one is hiring.”

One by one, engineer Dipankar Das has heard from friends across the industry as layoffs rolled out across Australia. A friend at one company was asked to take a year of unpaid leave. Many are moving, which is what Das said in an interview he plans to do.
“You get all these skills, all these projects that have been completed over the years, and then all of a sudden it’s over,” said Das, a native of India who has worked in Australia for seven years. “It’s disappointing, but what can you do?”
The outlook isn’t brightening. Citigroup Inc. said oil could drop to “the $20 range” by April as oversupplies build. U.S. crude rose 2.6 percent to $50.10 at 10:18 a.m. in New York.

Further Tightening
How long it will take for the job carnage to stop is now the main question confronting industry workers. Executives at companies including BP Plc and Royal Dutch Shell Plc have announced spending cuts of more than $40 billion and assured investors they’re ready to tighten further if the market doesn’t recover significantly.
Australia stands out as especially hard hit, with a labor force already decimated by a slowdown in the coal mining industry.
Energy companies including BG Group Plc and Woodside Petroleum Ltd., which are spending $70 billion to build natural gas export plants in Australia, are seeing those projects delayed, postponed or winding down, leaving workers with nowhere to go after losing their jobs.
In Brazil, a graft scandal that led to the resignation of the CEO of state-run Petroleo Brasileiro SA on Feb. 4 has deepened the crisis surrounding oil. Brazil’s bounty lies offshore in the Campos basin, a formation rich in hydrocarbons nestled beneath vast layers of salt that make drilling expensive and risky.

Recovery Uncertain
The cloud over Brazil’s industry is halting development projects in Macae, a city of 230,000 about 115 miles (186 kilometers) northeast of Rio de Janeiro. International schools have closed as workers were sent to other regions, and oil royalties to the city this year may be cut in half, said Joao Manuel Alvitos, the city’s planning secretary.
“The scenario is extremely unfavorable,” he said. “We’re hoping for a recovery in the long term, but I don’t believe that the industry is going to recover quickly.”
Mexico’s oil prospects also are grim. In late 2013, the country began taking steps to revise its constitution and end a seven-decade monopoly, anticipating billions in investment from the world’s biggest oil companies.
Petroleos Mexicanos, which employs 153,000 workers and has promised to protect them amid the oil rout, began slashing contracts and purchases this year in a bid to save $2 billion to $3 billion. That plan has left as many as 8,000 workers, many concentrated in the port city of Ciudad del Carmen, without work, said Gonzalo Hernandez, head of the city’s Economic Development Chamber in Campeche state.

Dashed Hopes
Many workers who thought ending the monopoly would mean more jobs feel betrayed.
“The energy reform is a lie,” said Daniel Aquino, a drill rig welder who was waiting for work alongside hundreds of others late last month after the Pemex cuts were made public.
Around the North Sea, where drilling is serviced largely from Aberdeen, Scotland and Stavanger, Norway, job cuts now exceed 11,500, according to DNB Markets and Unite, the U.K.’s largest labor union. As many as 30,000 more may disappear, according to Menon Business Economics AS. BP wrote down the value of its North Sea operations by $3.6 billion, and CEO Bob Dudley on Feb. 3 gave dire warnings about the region’s future.
Late last year, Aleksander Gumos knew many people who were losing their jobs in Norway as the market crash worsened. Still, he just thought he’d have to work more hours to make up for those who were let go. Instead, he was added to the list of unemployed in December.

Gumos, a Polish citizen who relocated to Norway and bought a house in 2009, is trying to be flexible. He’s had several interviews with potential employers, including in the industry and academia.
“I thought I was doing my job well, at least judging by my record, feedback from clients, not least on projects,” said Gumos, who worked for Subsea 7 SA in data processing. “It was very surprising. I almost couldn’t believe it.”
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maddogchen

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its cyclic industry. Maybe by the time they get approval and finish building it, the boom will be back
 

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hope you saved your money.

another propaganda piece telling us the price of oil should be high.

give it up.
 

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Fossil fuel is plentiful, we have enough in the ground to make our planet deadly to us if it was all used. Its about getting it out easily. The more money we can spend per barrel, exponentially more fossil fuel is available to us. We can keep going down the fossil fuel path for centuries.
 

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hope you saved your money.

another propaganda piece telling us the price of oil should be high.

give it up.

What? How is this propaganda? All it is saying, is that oil is going to keep getting cheaper and more people will soon be laid off, and there is no end in sight. Read into that what you want, it's just stating facts.
 

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LMAO!!! What does global layoffs in oil related businesses have to do with the Keystone pipeline. Something tells me the OP has no clue that the majority of the Keystone pipeline has been built/online/soon to go online.

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What? How is this propaganda? All it is saying, is that oil is going to keep getting cheaper and more people will soon be laid off, and there is no end in sight. Read into that what you want, it's just stating facts.

Far more jobs are created without the anchor of high energy costs dragging the economy down.
 

HomerJS

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LMAO!!! What does global layoffs in oil related businesses have to do with the Keystone pipeline. Something tells me the OP has no clue that the majority of the Keystone pipeline has been built/online/soon to go online.

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The Alberta government estimated that in 2012, the supply cost of oil sands new mining operations was $70 to $85 per barrel, whereas the cost of new SAGD projects was $50 to $80 per barrel

Current oil price $50/barrel. I saw story yesterday estimates of 30-35/barrel by mid year.
 

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I already mentioned that the pipeline won't be built under current conditions because the financing doesn't make sense. This, however, is just an opinion I read. Maybe it's wrong.
 

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I'm not saying no one is going to lose jobs in Canada but to my knowledge no one in the oil industry has as a result of this. At least not huge numbers.
 

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I'm not saying no one is going to lose jobs in Canada but to my knowledge no one in the oil industry has as a result of this. At least not huge numbers.

OP was stating there was no reason for the Keystone pipeline due to low oil prices based on an article on global oil layoffs.

True to the article Canada has already been loosing oil related jobs and will continue to do so like others have globally.

http://calgaryherald.com/business/e...eld-layoffs-expected-to-affect-100s-in-canada

Hundreds of Alberta oilfield workers are expected to be caught in a new round of up to 6,200 job cuts confirmed Tuesday by giant Houston-based Halliburton Co. in reaction to plunging levels of drilling activity in Canada and the U.S. driven by falling oil and gas prices.
Also Tuesday, Calgary-based private oilfield services company Sanjel Corp. said it has been laying off staff over the past several weeks from its workforce of between 4,000 and 4,100 and has imposed an across-the-board salary cut of between five and 10 per cent.

The confirmed layoffs could be the tip of the iceberg &#8212; in January, the Canadian Association of Oilwell Drilling Contractors predicted an average of 167 fewer drilling rigs will be active this year in Canada, resulting in 23,000 fewer direct and indirect jobs than in 2014. Statistics Canada said Friday 13,000 jobs have been lost in the natural resources sector in Alberta since September.
 

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its cyclic industry. Maybe by the time they get approval and finish building it, the boom will be back

Yeah. I think any idea that oil is going to stay cheap for an extended period will soon be proven wrong.

Fern
 

Fern

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Seems like there is less and less reason for this Keystone Pipeline to exist every day....
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I don't how the company building the pipeline extension evaluates it, but I've got a couple of thoughts:

1. The vast majority of the pipeline is already built and, AFAIK, already in use. So, the benefit calculation might be skewed in favor of completing the short XL extension remaining. I.e., it could be substantially different than an analysis of the entire/full length of pipeline.

2. As a financial professional myself I rather doubt such long-term financial investment decisions are based on the spot price of oil at any one point in time. The view should be much longer. Now that's not to say some sort of delay wouldn't be considered in the short term.

Fern
 

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I don't how the company building the pipeline extension evaluates it, but I've got a couple of thoughts:

1. The vast majority of the pipeline is already built and, AFAIK, already in use. So, the benefit calculation might be skewed in favor of completing the short XL extension remaining. I.e., it could be substantially different than an analysis of the entire/full length of pipeline.

2. As a financial professional myself I rather doubt such long-term financial investment decisions are based on the spot price of oil at any one point in time. The view should be much longer. Now that's not to say some sort of delay wouldn't be considered in the short term.

Fern
1) Sunk cost fallacy. Don't throw good money after bad, it does nothing for us and is useless at current and forecasted Oil prices.

2) There is no such thing as a "spot" price for oil, because prices are centralized and set worldwide. You aren't much of a financial professional, are you?


lol
 

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Wait so.... the article made it sound like combined they were making 500k? WTF. I'm there age and it would take me 8 years to make that. And I didn't get to go to Australia, only Afghanistan :(

Burn in hell richies!
 

Fern

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1) Sunk cost fallacy. Don't throw good money after bad, it does nothing for us and is useless at current and forecasted Oil prices.

My remarks have nothing to do with sunk costs. In fact, the concept I'm recommending is the exact opposite.

The bulk of the pipeline is built. For the incremental/extra costs you can now use the entire thing. I thought I made this perfectly clear.

Loading/unloading semi's to and from pipeline is said to be very expensive and inefficient. Completion of the last portion ameliorates this.

2) There is no such thing as a "spot" price for oil, because prices are centralized and set worldwide. You aren't much of a financial professional, are you?

lol

Here's a site with the spot prices of oil listed: http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_spt_s1_d.htm

It's obvious you don't know what "spot price" means.

The term "spot price" has nothing to do with location, it means the current price at any given point in time.

You're an idiot.

Fern
 
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oobydoobydoo

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My remarks have nothing to do with sunk costs. In fact, the concept I'm recommending is the exact opposite.

The bulk of the pipeline is built. For the incremental/extra costs you can now use the entire thing. I thought I made this perfectly clear.

Loading/unloading semi's to and from pipeline is said to be very expensive and inefficient. Completion of the last portion ameliorates this.



Here's a site with the spot prices of oil listed: http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_pri_spt_s1_d.htm

It's obvious you don't know what "spot price" means.

The term "spot price" has nothing to do with location, it means the current price at any given point in time.

You're an idiot.

Fern
I'm the idiot? What you think a "sunk cost" is? It means "I've already spent this, so I might as well spend this" which is half of your whole argument. Mr. financial planner here wants to build Canada a pipeline, which will then do absolutely nothing for a single american. That's well and good, but don't use my tax money to use imminent domain to build a foreign countries pipeline.


This whole thing is a scam, but genius Fern here knows better! LOL. Build your pipeline, those liberal canucks are cracking up, taking your idiot money. You deserve to lose it, and that pipeline runs right through idiot country as far as conservative states go. Enjoy the scenic pipe views.
 
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