Blood on our hands?

[CADsortaGUY]

"...for the past three weeks, millions of dollars of bombs and missiles -- that you and I paid for -- are being used to kill people... That makes you and I culpable in their execution."

Now I know the author is off his rocker, but I still wonder why he seems to support the guy that led the campaign.

Interesting

CkG

 

[kylebisme]

were do you get that he supports Clinton?

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
were do you get that he supports Clinton?

Try Clark. The man he just endorsed, he also called the Butcher of Kosovo.

How does Moore really feel about Clark?

AMY GOODMAN: I guess what surprised so many people when you sent out your letter, and now in your book, on Wesley Clark, I don?t think people were surprised that he ran for president, but that he?s called the anti-war worrier, that this is the man who said the rest of the world has got to get with us, this is the man who presided over the bombing of Yugoslavia.

MICHAEL MOORE: Well, yeah, I put it in ?Bowling for Columbine,? I?m so upset still about what happened in Kosovo, it?s in my movie. I found a way to work it into a gun movie and draw the connections between the largest?the day the largest bombing took place in Kosovo was on the day of the Columbine massacre. So, I?m very concerned about that. And I?d like to hear his answers about that. I?d like to hear, you know, exactly what happened. And I read the story in the ?New York Times? last week that offered a whole different explanation of what I?d been reading on the internet.

So I don?t know. I mean, I think that?s why?I just thought he should be in the debates, and we should hear what he has to say. And I think any time we?ve got a four-star general that seems to be on our side, you know, we should accept that. And people say, well, Mike, you know, he said he voted for Reagan. I say, well, yeah, so did most of America. If one of them wants to come over to our side, shouldn?t we have open arms and say, well, you know what, OK, maybe this guy screwed up in the past, maybe, you know, he?s not done the right thing or whatever. But jeez, you know, he said he?s going to do this, and this and that, and he stands for these things. You know, let?s hear the guy out, let?s have him in the debates. I think it?s a good thing.

Well, Mike, he?s the butcher of Kosovo. Maybe that?s what we need right now is a butcher. We need the butcher of Bush. I mean, I don?t know. Again, I?m not?it?s not an endorsement, but it?s like, what do we do, Amy, people like us? Because you got somebody like Dean. OK, Dean is great on all this stuff, but I met with Dean, he told me that he supports the death penalty? in three different cases he would allow the death penalty. He won?t cut the Pentagon budget. You know, you go down the whole list of things, and I just think, jeez, you know, what do we do about it? How much do we have to compromise and keep compromising to find the right person?

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[Moonbeam]

I thought we got involved there to keep the Europeans form developing a military response that could rival our own. Don't want Europe rearming now do we, in any effective united Europe way. Think what the French might do.

Does make Moore look kind of stupid though. I'm just glad clinton didn't use the excuse of wmd and they didn't have any oil and haliburton wasn't involved and we learned something from WW1 and 2

 

[kylebisme]

ahh i see, i though you were refering to the commander and cheif at the time and not one of his subordinates. anway, it appears that Moore just sees Clark as the lesser of two evils in this case.

 

[busmaster11]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
were do you get that he supports Clinton?

Try Clark. The man he just endorsed, he also called the Butcher of Kosovo.

How does Moore really feel about Clark?

AMY GOODMAN: I guess what surprised so many people when you sent out your letter, and now in your book, on Wesley Clark, I don?t think people were surprised that he ran for president, but that he?s called the anti-war worrier, that this is the man who said the rest of the world has got to get with us, this is the man who presided over the bombing of Yugoslavia.

MICHAEL MOORE: Well, yeah, I put it in ?Bowling for Columbine,? I?m so upset still about what happened in Kosovo, it?s in my movie. I found a way to work it into a gun movie and draw the connections between the largest?the day the largest bombing took place in Kosovo was on the day of the Columbine massacre. So, I?m very concerned about that. And I?d like to hear his answers about that. I?d like to hear, you know, exactly what happened. And I read the story in the ?New York Times? last week that offered a whole different explanation of what I?d been reading on the internet.

So I don?t know. I mean, I think that?s why?I just thought he should be in the debates, and we should hear what he has to say. And I think any time we?ve got a four-star general that seems to be on our side, you know, we should accept that. And people say, well, Mike, you know, he said he voted for Reagan. I say, well, yeah, so did most of America. If one of them wants to come over to our side, shouldn?t we have open arms and say, well, you know what, OK, maybe this guy screwed up in the past, maybe, you know, he?s not done the right thing or whatever. But jeez, you know, he said he?s going to do this, and this and that, and he stands for these things. You know, let?s hear the guy out, let?s have him in the debates. I think it?s a good thing.

Well, Mike, he?s the butcher of Kosovo. Maybe that?s what we need right now is a butcher. We need the butcher of Bush. I mean, I don?t know. Again, I?m not?it?s not an endorsement, but it?s like, what do we do, Amy, people like us? Because you got somebody like Dean. OK, Dean is great on all this stuff, but I met with Dean, he told me that he supports the death penalty? in three different cases he would allow the death penalty. He won?t cut the Pentagon budget. You know, you go down the whole list of things, and I just think, jeez, you know, what do we do about it? How much do we have to compromise and keep compromising to find the right person?

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Really, thats two degrees of separation. Do you support everything that is supported by everyone whom you voted for also supported?

 

[Red Dawn]

An endorsement from Moore is like the Kiss of Death to any presidential aspirations Clark had!

 

[heartsurgeon]

to much pot smoking as a teen....
bad parenting probably...

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
An endorsement from Moore is like the Kiss of Death to any presidential aspirations Clark had!

Why do you believe this? I know a lot of hyper right-wingers get all frothy about Moore, but they aren't going to vote for a Dem anyway. I think most people see Moore as entertaining, if not funny, and like the way he stands with ordinary people to take on the powerful. Moore's message is popular.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
An endorsement from Moore is like the Kiss of Death to any presidential aspirations Clark had!

Why do you believe this? I know a lot of hyper right-wingers get all frothy about Moore, but they aren't going to vote for a Dem anyway. I think most people see Moore as entertaining, if not funny, and like the way he stands with ordinary people to take on the powerful. Moore's message is popular.

I think most people see Moore as an extremist.

 

[Strk]

Heh... I remember John Stewart making fun of Moore endorsing Clark on The Daily Show; it was great.

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: Strk
Heh... I remember John Stewart making fun of Moore endorsing Clark on The Daily Show; it was great.

Damn, I must've missed that. But what can one say? Moore's an opportunist, nothing more.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

Originally posted by: Strk
Heh... I remember John Stewart making fun of Moore endorsing Clark on The Daily Show; it was great.

Damn, I must've missed that. But what can one say? Moore's an opportunist, nothing more.

Well, it was only about a 15 second bit, but it was still amusing. John Stewart was basically "uhhh.. you know, someone might want to tell Clark that if you're trying to run a more centrist campaign you may want to ask someone other than Moore" Then he mocked a few of the statements Moore was saying.(Moore's speech included something lie "OMG CLARK WAS ON THE DEBATE TEAM!!!")

 

[Dman877]

At least Moore is consistent . The truth hurts.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: Dman877
At least Moore is consistent . The truth hurts.

I don't mind Moore, he does provides interesting points and topics worth researching. I mean, yes, I take everything he says with a grain of salt, but you kind of have to do that with any information source.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: Dman877
At least Moore is consistent . The truth hurts.

I don't mind Moore, he does provides interesting points and topics worth researching. I mean, yes, I take everything he says with a grain of salt, but you kind of have to do that with any information source.

Moore is the Savage of liberals.

 

[sMiLeYz]

David Hackworth on Clark before he met him...
He is a total fvckup!
David Hackworth after he met Clark:
This man should be President!

So I believe Clark has an effect on people.