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glenn1 said:
He's pretty much correct though. Except for the option to "upgrade" from direct impingement action to piston and some evolutionary changes (rail systems, free floating barrels, etc.) the designs you mentioned aren't THAT much different. The only truly 'modern' rifle design you can likely point to would be the H&K G11 cartridgeless ammunition system and that never even made it into production.
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Meh, the AR is the Honda Civic of weapons, I'd argue all the others are better. Have owned several on that list over the years.
 
Artdeco said:
Meh, the AR is the Honda Civic of weapons, I'd argue all the others are better. Have owned several on that list over the years.
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Yes, but to keep up the car comparison today's Civic isn't completely indistinguishable from 60s era Civic, just as the rifles you mentioned aren't that much different than the original mk 1 version of the AR15. There hasn't been an equivalent major technology or design change to rifles akin to hybrid engines and regenerative braking for Civics (and other models).
 
glenn1 said:
Yes, but to keep up the car comparison today's Civic isn't completely indistinguishable from 60s era Civic, just as the rifles you mentioned aren't that much different than the original mk 1 version of the AR15. There hasn't been an equivalent major technology or design change to rifles akin to hybrid engines and regenerative braking for Civics (and other models).
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Respectfully, I disagree, there are many reasons the AR is so popular, I would argue the primary one is cost, secondary is the massive aftermarket/3rd party support it has.
 
Victorian Gray said:
Triggered?
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Meghan54 said:
Yeah, it's so easy to trigger the cucks, as evidenced by Painman and LK.
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brycejones said:
Definitely triggered
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Noooooo... you're again assuming everyone thinks like you do - that's called "projection".
Only the regressive super-lefts behave as you do. No one else gets "triggered" and needs "safe spaces"... and the "cucks" are most definitely in your camp loudly proclaiming their own masculinity is "toxic", etc, etc, etc.

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So, no. The only folks "triggered" around here are you folks screaming your heads off and repeating the doctrines of progressivism over and over again, and calling anyone who disagrees "evil".

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WORSE, you're doing the same thing as BLM at the candlelight vigil for the gay club shootout - hijacking an event to push your narratives and get your doctrines signed into law.
 
glenn1 said:
He's pretty much correct though. Except for the option to "upgrade" from direct impingement action to piston and some evolutionary changes (rail systems, free floating barrels, etc.) the designs you mentioned aren't THAT much different. The only truly 'modern' rifle design you can likely point to would be the H&K G11 cartridgeless ammunition system and that never even made it into production.
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I'll agree with you, for a change of pace.

😉

Blue Max is just off the rails again, but what else is new.

He's gone back to amateur psychology mode, when he obviously doesn't have a clue.
 
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glenn1 & mongrel, have either of you used a modern bullpup?

I find the design a significant improvement, and I suggest if either of you consider the AR "state of the art" you're behind by nearly 60 years.
 
Artdeco said:
glenn1 & mongrel, have either of you used a modern bullpup?

I find the design a significant improvement, and I suggest if either of you consider the AR "state of the art" you're behind by nearly 60 years.
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Yes but to me changing the location of the magazine well doesn't by itself make it modern. If the electric primer ignition system from a few years ago had worked and been widely adopted in service rifles you might have something. Likewise if "rail gun" type systems become man packable that will be a truly modern rifle. Either way theee is way way more differences between a car of today than one from the 60s so saying a "state of the art modern car" makes sense whereas saying that for combat rifles doesn't.

Anyway this is completely sidetracking the main point of the OP so I'll stop here.
 
Artdeco said:
glenn1 & mongrel, have either of you used a modern bullpup?

I find the design a significant improvement, and I suggest if either of you consider the AR "state of the art" you're behind by nearly 60 years.
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They were the "big thing" after the Steyr AUG came out, and that continued throughout the 80s and 90s, but they are not any worse or better than traditionally layed out rifles, and they have their own advantages and disadvantages. It is like comparing apples and oranges.
 
the dead cops weren't wearing bullet proof vests?
or were they not enuf protection vs a wwII rifle?

or headshot?
 
Blue_Max said:
Noooooo... you're again assuming everyone thinks like you do - that's called "projection".
Only the regressive super-lefts behave as you do. No one else gets "triggered" and needs "safe spaces"... and the "cucks" are most definitely in your camp loudly proclaiming their own masculinity is "toxic", etc, etc, etc.



So, no. The only folks "triggered" around here are you folks screaming your heads off and repeating the doctrines of progressivism over and over again, and calling anyone who disagrees "evil".



WORSE, you're doing the same thing as BLM at the candlelight vigil for the gay club shootout - hijacking an event to push your narratives and get your doctrines signed into law.
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Oh look, Max got triggered as well. Awww. :'(
 
MongGrel said:
I think I would personally rather have a
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Klondike Bar?

I had a Steyr Aug, only thing I didn't like was the optics.

Am hearing it may not have been an SKS used in Dallas, not going to post what I read, the official stuff will be out soon.
 
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Jhhnn said:
Most vests are designed to stop pistol rounds. Those that will stop rifle rounds are very bulky, generally not police issue-

http://www.safeguardarmor.com/support/body-armor-protection-levels/

Even the best are probably ineffective against a heavier hunting round like a 338 Winchester magnum.
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thx. so im assuming dallas cops doesn't wear lvl III body armor?

no idea how much power a 338 Winchester magnum round does but lvl III stops .308/7.62 aka M14 assault rifles that was US Army standard in 1960s b4 the M16 (aka ar-15).

woah.. lvl III also stop 30-06?
 
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JEDI said:
thx. so im assuming dallas cops doesn't wear lvl III body armor?

no idea how much power a 338 Winchester magnum round does but lvl III stops .308/7.62 aka M14 assault rifles that was US Army standard in 1960s b4 the M16 (aka ar-15).

woah.. lvl III also stop 30-06?
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7MM Remington Magnum is nasty if you want to crush things at range, almost wish I had not sold my Gold Medallion. Is hotter than a 30-06.

But if you aren't hunting Elk at 1500+ yards or something, not a real reason to have one hanging around.
 
Artdeco said:
Klondike Bar?

I had a Steyr Aug, only thing I didn't like was the optics.

Am hearing it may not have been an SKS used in Dallas, not going to post what I read, the official stuff will be out soon.
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Trying to hijack my posts is bad form to begin with.

But knock yourself out.
 
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