BLM Dallas protest rally shooting

[norseamd]

Find me one PD in the US using tranquilizer gas, please, and explain to me how it would work in a non enclosed area.

I dont give a fuck if a PD has any in their inventory or not, that is their deal. And you can use them in non-enclosed spaces by making 40mm grenades filled with the gas, and then firing them from a grenade launcher within 10 feet or so of the shooter. And while a parking garage is not a fully enclosed space, it isnt a fully open space either. Any gas cloud is unlikely to instantly disperse.

 

[Knowing]

You just outed yourself as a consumer of racist websites the same way LK did.

Reading a website doesn't make anyone a racist any more than reading Marx makes someone a commie.

You can have both, an escalation of militarization of the police and systemic racial bias by the police. The problems are complex and there isn't a single solution that fixes all of the issues.

Feel free to rally behind Obama and his calls for the demilitarization of the police and lets let the BLM movement continue to highlight the racial issues that plague black communities, a fact based on investigations done by the DOJ.

Why would I rally behind Obama for stopping non existent sales of miniguns and high explosive grenades when he increased aggregate sales of military materiel to police departments?

I don't discriminate about what lives matter [EDIT: on the basis of race], so BLM has nothing for me.

 

[norseamd]

Machine guns are not illegal. If you have enough money you can buy one and own one legally like many U.S. Citizens actually do.

You dont get one by just having enough money, you need at least some money, but you also need to get a Federal Firearms License. I think you might be able to own some old antiques without a FFL, but not 100% sure.

 

[bshole]

That is because idiot liberals continue to include suicides and gang violence in those statistics. I am not likely to be a victim of gang violence because I stay out of shitry neighborhoods. I am also not likely to be gunned down by someone who decides to end their life with a gun.

Taking away suicides and gang bangers who kill each other that leaves very few people who are victims of gun violence.

Go check FBI stats for yourself. Gun ownership over the last decade is up like 140% while violent crime is down but hey fuck logic.

Nope my stats were GUN MURDER rates. Got that? GUN MURDER RATES. Like I said before, WE KNOW beyond all doubt that gun bans works because of the HIGHLY successful ban on machine guns. It is un-fucking equivocal. Real bans with real teeth will IMPLODE the gun murder rate. The machine gun ban PROVES it.

 

[LTC8K6]

Machine guns are not illegal. If you have enough money you can buy one and own one legally like many U.S. Citizens actually do.

Only pre-ban guns though.
1968 is one cut off year for most machine guns.

1986 is the total cut-off year. That's the year Ronald Reagan banned them.

 

[LTC8K6]

Nope my stats were GUN MURDER rates. Got that? GUN MURDER RATES. Like I said before, WE KNOW beyond all doubt that gun bans works because of the HIGHLY successful ban on machine guns. It is un-fucking equivocal. Real bans with real teeth will IMPLODE the gun murder rate. The machine gun ban PROVES it.

Machine guns were not banned until 1986. I doubt the machine gun murder/crime rate changed after 1986?

Rifles are hardly ever used in crimes/murders at all. The AR-15 subset even less so.

Why start with them instead of the guns used in the vast majority of crimes?

 

[WelshBloke]

Nope my stats were GUN MURDER rates. Got that? GUN MURDER RATES. Like I said before, WE KNOW beyond all doubt that gun bans works because of the HIGHLY successful ban on machine guns. It is un-fucking equivocal. Real bans with real teeth will IMPLODE the gun murder rate. The machine gun ban PROVES it.

You've... You've actually made a not terrible point.

I'm going for a lie down.

 

[ivwshane]

Reading a website doesn't make anyone a racist any more than reading Marx makes someone a commie.

I'm sure a smart guy like you know the difference between reading a website and referencing one to support ones claims.

Why would I rally behind Obama for stopping non existent sales of miniguns and high explosive grenades when he increased aggregate sales of military materiel to police departments?

I don't discriminate about what lives matter [EDIT: on the basis of race], so BLM has nothing for me.

Do you find it as funny as I do that you can find the nuance in how Obama supports demilitarization of the police and yet you are totally incapable of understanding the nuance of "black lives matter"?

I wonder why that is.

 

[LTC8K6]

You dont get one by just having enough money, you need at least some money, but you also need to get a Federal Firearms License. I think you might be able to own some old antiques without a FFL, but not 100% sure.

It's only a $200 fee, and fill out the forms and wait about a year, and have the money to afford the gun.

You don't need an FFL.

 

[shady28]

Nope my stats were GUN MURDER rates. Got that? GUN MURDER RATES. Like I said before, WE KNOW beyond all doubt that gun bans works because of the HIGHLY successful ban on machine guns. It is un-fucking equivocal. Real bans with real teeth will IMPLODE the gun murder rate. The machine gun ban PROVES it.

So people use something else. It did not work in Britain to lower homicides. And you now have to be 18 years old to buy a plastic knife in Britain (note the 'no proof, no purchase' signeage in the image below).

Besides, we aren't Britain. Drug thugs will still cross the open borders, and they will still have weapons.


With Knife Murders Spiking After Gun Ban, UK Urges "Save A Life - Surrender Your Knife"

Oh and France, I'm guessing a lot of them wish they had guns, like this Frenchman who encountered some 'immigrants':

 

[Knowing]

Do you find it as funny as I do that you can find the nuance in how Obama supports demilitarization of the police and yet you are totally incapable of understanding the nuance of "black lives matter"?

I wonder why that is.

There isn't any nuance in Obama's support of demilitarization. He doesn't support demilitarization because the things that he will no longer sell to police departments weren't being sold to police departments.

What are the "nuances" of Black Lives Matter?

EDIT: I don't know where the bold text in your quote came from because I sure didn't type it.

 

[ivwshane]

There isn't any nuance in Obama's support of demilitarization. He doesn't support demilitarization because the things that he will no longer sell to police departments weren't being sold to police departments.

What are the "nuances" of Black Lives Matter?

There is zero hope for you. You got me, I fell for your buckshatting.

 

[Knowing]

There is zero hope for you.

Not if you don't explain your opinion, I'm not a mind reader.

 

[Artdeco]

You dont get one by just having enough money, you need at least some money, but you also need to get a Federal Firearms License. I think you might be able to own some old antiques without a FFL, but not 100% sure.

Norse, every single thing you just posted is wrong, WTF?

 

[norseamd]

Norse, every single thing you just posted is wrong, WTF?

No it isnt. To own automatics built after 1986 you need a FFL. I was simply mistaken about just how old the guns have to be for someone without a FFL to be able to own them. Now go bitch about shit somewhere else, as you are certain to do.

 

[DrunkenSano]

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The way that thug pissed his pants suddenly after seeing the man was armed is awesome.

 

[shady28]

Norse, every single thing you just posted is wrong, WTF?

He's talking about 'full auto' machine guns.

Assuming you are a law abiding citizen with no significant past legal issues it is possible to get a license to own an MG manufactured before 1986.

Here's the biggest hurdle : Your local police chief has to sign your application, in addition to a host of background checks and fees. Good luck with that.

To own an MG made after 1986, you have to be a licensed dealer. Good luck with that too.

Violating the law is a $100,000 fine and up to 10 years imprisonment.

Not worth, even for a big gun fan.

 

[norseamd]

The way that thug pissed his pants suddenly after seeing the man was armed is awesome.

The way he kept trying to look for a way to still pull his shit even after he was made aware of the gun is both predictable and hilarious.

Is reminding me of some certain people right now.

 

[JSt0rm]

It's only a $200 fee, and fill out the forms and wait about a year, and have the money to afford the gun.

You don't need an FFL.

It was $200 in 1930. Read up on this shit you guys sound funny.

 

[shortylickens]

So people use something else. It did not work in Britain to lower homicides. And you now have to be 18 years old to buy a plastic knife in Britain (note the 'no proof, no purchase' signeage in the image below).

Besides, we aren't Britain. Drug thugs will still cross the open borders, and they will still have weapons.


With Knife Murders Spiking After Gun Ban, UK Urges "Save A Life - Surrender Your Knife"

Oh and France, I'm guessing a lot of them wish they had guns, like this Frenchman who encountered some 'immigrants':

When and where does France let citizens carry a concealed weapon?

 

[WelshBloke]

So people use something else. It did not work in Britain to lower homicides. And you now have to be 18 years old to buy a plastic knife in Britain (note the 'no proof, no purchase' signeage in the image below).

Lol. Do you believe everything you see on the internet?

 

[Svnla]

I want to make a comment/question about guns to those that believe in gun control.

Guns have been with us since the creation of the US over 200 years ago. AR15s and semi-auto rifles have been on sale to the public since the 60s/70s.

If guns and those "evil black assault" long guns are the problems as some of you claim, then why we did not have much mass shootings and killings until recently?

Hummmm...

 

[deadlyapp]

He's talking about 'full auto' machine guns.

Assuming you are a law abiding citizen with no significant past legal issues it is possible to get a license to own an MG manufactured before 1986.

Here's the biggest hurdle : Your local police chief has to sign your application, in addition to a host of background checks and fees. Good luck with that.

To own an MG made after 1986, you have to be a licensed dealer. Good luck with that too.

Violating the law is a $100,000 fine and up to 10 years imprisonment.

Not worth, even for a big gun fan.

Not particularly true. Most people go the route of creating a trust and purchasing the item through the trust - then it's not nearly as difficult. The fees for creating the trust are almost nil, and then you only have the $200 tax stamp requirement.

I know many people who have purchased numerous SBRs and suppressors this way with no issues. The only barrier for entry is the extremely expensive cost of pre-ban MG.

 

[Knowing]

Oh boy, here we go.
http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/jul/08/authorities-tennessee-highway-gunman-motivated-by/

Associated Press
Friday, July 8, 2016 | 12:20 p.m.
BRISTOL, Tenn. — A man accused of shooting indiscriminately at passing cars and police on a Tennessee highway told investigators he was angry about police violence against African-Americans, authorities said Friday.
One woman died and three others, including one police officer, were injured in the rampage.

http://www.wistv.com/story/32400652/police-valdosta-ga-shooting-is-officer-involved

Officials said an officer was called to the complex for damage to property.
The GBI lead investigator says when the officer arrived on scene to respond to the call at the apartment complex, he was under fire immediately.
The officer returned fire hitting the individual who was shooting at him. The GBI says both were transported to the hospital, and the officer went into surgery.
The shooter was transported to another hospital for additional care.
Officials said that the officer was wearing a bullet proof vest and a body camera.
Footage from that camera has been turned over to GBI.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/nor...at-roswell-officer-suspect-arrested/392087339

ROSWELL, Ga. — A suspect is under arrest after police say a Roswell officer was shot at during a patrol early Friday morning.

The officer was in the area of Old Roswell Road and Commerce Parkway when police say a passing vehicle fired a shot at the officer’s patrol car. The officer was not hit.

The officer then chased the suspect’s vehicle and after a short pursuit, the suspect crashed and was taken into custody.

http://fox2now.com/2016/07/08/report-officer-shot-in-ballwin-manhunt-underway/

BALLWIN, MO (KTVI)- Authorities are investigating after a police officer was shot during a traffic stop Friday morning in west St. Louis County. It happened shortly around 11 a.m. near the 300 block of New Ballwin Road, near Old Ballwin Road. According to our partners at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, the wound was in the neck.
The officer, who works for the Ballwin Police Department, was transported to a local hospital for treatment. His condition is unknown at this time.
Sources tell the Post that the officer was shot at least once from behind and there were at least three shots fired at him. The suspect fled the scene before leaving his car abandoned at Westridge Manor Estates.
He was apprehended after a foot pursuit in the 800 block of Burgundy Drive. St. Louis County officials say a weapon was recovered.

 

[norseamd]

When and where does France let citizens carry a concealed weapon?

I only read up briefly on EU and world gun laws recently, but apparently those who are in certain professions are allowed to hold a certain gun license for self defense purposes, often those involved in high-value or high-risk jobs, like those who control and move briefcases of high-value information, valuable items like gems, or cash.