Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: CaesaR
Originally posted by: Newfie
pwned
That's what you get for burning a living being alive. He was to much of a wuss to kill it, so he threw a living animal into a fire. I think a two by four upside the head would have probably been more instructive, but hey... that's karma for you.
What?! Its a MOUSE?!
Do you think people who put out mouse traps should be shot, or people who use RAID should be beaten with a ball bat?? What about farmers that use chemicals, do you want to eats worms, maggots andflies in your food too?
would you rather have your neck broken or be burned alive?
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: gopunk
would you rather have your neck broken or be burned alive?
It's a MOUSE.
BTW people from this guy's generation don't have any qualms about killing small furry creatures (unlike the castrated generation of today).
My grandmother used to find mouse nests while working in her yard. Those tiny, blind baby mice were treats for her cats.
Here kitty kitty...
Viper GTS
capitalizing the word "mouse" doesn't really change anything, nor does your attempt to turn klling small furry baby mice into some kind of statement about masculinity... he made an analogy to mousetraps - implying hypocrisy; i was just showing how the two scenarios are different in a meaningful way.
Originally posted by: OdiN
Yeah he should have made sure that the mouse was contained.
Well...or he could have put it in an old microwave for fun.
Originally posted by: djheater
Well as the son of farmers, crop and stock, I have seen and done my fair share of animal killing.
My mother was raised in the coal mining towns of the Appalachian mountains, no running water or electricity til she was 18, they butchered their own meat and hunted for that. I'm no stranger to dying animals and I know that a mouse is a pest. You can trust, that were I to see a mouse on the farm I would sure kill it. That being said, I would kill it. I wouldn't burn it alive. There's a difference between what is essentially killing from self-interest and cruelty. I maintain that throwing ANY living thing into a fire is an act of cruelty, and I doubt you'll find many people who would disagree. FFS he could have just stepped on it.
Honestly I think it's the DETACHMENT from the slaughter of animals which causes people to do things like this. Probably some suburban grass-farmer, who has no idea where meat really comes from, and is at his heart, terrified of killing the animal, so he lets the fire do his work for him.
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: CaesaR
Originally posted by: Newfie
pwned
That's what you get for burning a living being alive. He was to much of a wuss to kill it, so he threw a living animal into a fire. I think a two by four upside the head would have probably been more instructive, but hey... that's karma for you.
What?! Its a MOUSE?!
Do you think people who put out mouse traps should be shot, or people who use RAID should be beaten with a ball bat?? What about farmers that use chemicals, do you want to eats worms, maggots andflies in your food too?
would you rather have your neck broken or be burned alive?
You didnt address my other points.
Would you rather have your stomach burned out by acid, or burned alive?
Dont see you raising a stink about mouse bait.
Would you rather have your skin disolved off your body and suffocate, or be burned alive.
Dont see you raising a stink about pesticides.
Point is, todays metrosexual touchy feely society thinks everything is cute anf uzzy. Some of those old timers out there have had a pretty rough live, the kind us cuddled and coddled get it handed to us on a silver platter type of people will never understand. As such, that old guy probably just saw a pest or rodent, not a cute little baby mouse. Its just a nouse, he pitched it in the fire to get rid of it. I seriously doubt he did it with any malice.
That said, I do find it pretty funny his house got burned down by the incident.![]()
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: djheater
Well as the son of farmers, crop and stock, I have seen and done my fair share of animal killing.
My mother was raised in the coal mining towns of the Appalachian mountains, no running water or electricity til she was 18, they butchered their own meat and hunted for that. I'm no stranger to dying animals and I know that a mouse is a pest. You can trust, that were I to see a mouse on the farm I would sure kill it. That being said, I would kill it. I wouldn't burn it alive. There's a difference between what is essentially killing from self-interest and cruelty. I maintain that throwing ANY living thing into a fire is an act of cruelty, and I doubt you'll find many people who would disagree. FFS he could have just stepped on it.
Honestly I think it's the DETACHMENT from the slaughter of animals which causes people to do things like this. Probably some suburban grass-farmer, who has no idea where meat really comes from, and is at his heart, terrified of killing the animal, so he lets the fire do his work for him.
Thats probably it, he has detachment from the whole scenario.
While I dont approve of burning animals, I certainly wouldnt think we need to take a 2x4 to his head for throwing a mouse in the fire like some people here.
Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: gopunk
would you rather have your neck broken or be burned alive?
It's a MOUSE.
BTW people from this guy's generation don't have any qualms about killing small furry creatures (unlike the castrated generation of today).
My grandmother used to find mouse nests while working in her yard. Those tiny, blind baby mice were treats for her cats.
Here kitty kitty...
Viper GTS
capitalizing the word "mouse" doesn't really change anything, nor does your attempt to turn klling small furry baby mice into some kind of statement about masculinity... he made an analogy to mousetraps - implying hypocrisy; i was just showing how the two scenarios are different in a meaningful way.
Well as the son of farmers, crop and stock, I have seen and done my fair share of animal killing.
My mother was raised in the coal mining towns of the Appalachian mountains, no running water or electricity til she was 18, they butchered their own meat and hunted for that. I'm no stranger to dying animals and I know that a mouse is a pest. You can trust, that were I to see a mouse on the farm I would sure kill it. That being said, I would kill it. I wouldn't burn it alive. There's a difference between what is essentially killing from self-interest and cruelty. I maintain that throwing ANY living thing into a fire is an act of cruelty, and I doubt you'll find many people who would disagree. FFS he could have just stepped on it.
Honestly I think it's the DETACHMENT from the slaughter of animals which causes people to do things like this. Probably some suburban grass-farmer, who has no idea where meat really comes from, and is at his heart, terrified of killing the animal, so he lets the fire do his work for him.
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Amazing.. people are saying it's okay to burn a mouse alive. What if it was a kitten or a puppy?
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: djheater
Well as the son of farmers, crop and stock, I have seen and done my fair share of animal killing.
My mother was raised in the coal mining towns of the Appalachian mountains, no running water or electricity til she was 18, they butchered their own meat and hunted for that. I'm no stranger to dying animals and I know that a mouse is a pest. You can trust, that were I to see a mouse on the farm I would sure kill it. That being said, I would kill it. I wouldn't burn it alive. There's a difference between what is essentially killing from self-interest and cruelty. I maintain that throwing ANY living thing into a fire is an act of cruelty, and I doubt you'll find many people who would disagree. FFS he could have just stepped on it.
Honestly I think it's the DETACHMENT from the slaughter of animals which causes people to do things like this. Probably some suburban grass-farmer, who has no idea where meat really comes from, and is at his heart, terrified of killing the animal, so he lets the fire do his work for him.
Thats probably it, he has detachment from the whole scenario.
While I dont approve of burning animals, I certainly wouldnt think we need to take a 2x4 to his head for throwing a mouse in the fire like some people here.
you just said in your other post that it was probably because he had such a rough life and just didn't think twice about throwing it in the fire... and now it's because he's detached from slaughter?
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: djheater
Well as the son of farmers, crop and stock, I have seen and done my fair share of animal killing.
My mother was raised in the coal mining towns of the Appalachian mountains, no running water or electricity til she was 18, they butchered their own meat and hunted for that. I'm no stranger to dying animals and I know that a mouse is a pest. You can trust, that were I to see a mouse on the farm I would sure kill it. That being said, I would kill it. I wouldn't burn it alive. There's a difference between what is essentially killing from self-interest and cruelty. I maintain that throwing ANY living thing into a fire is an act of cruelty, and I doubt you'll find many people who would disagree. FFS he could have just stepped on it.
Honestly I think it's the DETACHMENT from the slaughter of animals which causes people to do things like this. Probably some suburban grass-farmer, who has no idea where meat really comes from, and is at his heart, terrified of killing the animal, so he lets the fire do his work for him.
Thats probably it, he has detachment from the whole scenario.
While I dont approve of burning animals, I certainly wouldnt think we need to take a 2x4 to his head for throwing a mouse in the fire like some people here.
you just said in your other post that it was probably because he had such a rough life and just didn't think twice about throwing it in the fire... and now it's because he's detached from slaughter?
Ummm, yeah, exactly.
Failing to see the correlation here??
If you have a pampered get SLK's handed to you, oh no cant have my hot PC parts for 1 month until its X-mas ATOT life you probably think mice are cute cuddly fuzzy animals.
When you grew up through the Great Depression, WWII and all that other stuff your probably a bit desensitized to the needs of a pesky rodent such as a mouse.
10 to 20 minutes after exposure, every muscle in the body will start to simultaneously contract, starting with the head and neck. The spasms then spread to every muscle in the body, with nearly continuous convulsions. They get worse at the slightest stimulus. They progress, increasing in intensity and frequency until the backbone arches continually. Death comes from asphyxiation caused by paralysis of the brain's breathing apparatus, or by exhaustion from the convulsions. At that time, the body "freezes," even in the middle of a convulsion. Rigor mortis sets in immediately, with the eyes left wide open.
Death by exhaustion? That sounds aweful, lolOriginally posted by: Amused
Most mouse traps/poisons are just as cruel. Especially the glue traps. Spring traps that catch anything but the neck are equally as cruel.
Poisons result in a slow, VERY painful death. Strychnine is not a fun way to die.
10 to 20 minutes after exposure, every muscle in the body will start to simultaneously contract, starting with the head and neck. The spasms then spread to every muscle in the body, with nearly continuous convulsions. They get worse at the slightest stimulus. They progress, increasing in intensity and frequency until the backbone arches continually. Death comes from asphyxiation caused by paralysis of the brain's breathing apparatus, or by exhaustion from the convulsions. At that time, the body "freezes," even in the middle of a convulsion. Rigor mortis sets in immediately, with the eyes left wide open.