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blacks given poorer service while dining because of tipping stereotype

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Are you kidding? Your average restaraunt owner is not a "1%'er" by any means. Have you worked in a restaurant? The one I worked in took in several million dollars a year and after expenses, the two owners paid themselves a paltry $65K/year each - not exactly filthy stinking rich. Nearly every penny which came in went back into the business.

So pay yourself a paultry 30k a year and get a manager in there for 100k a year that's infinitely better than you'll ever be.

Then do whatever you did with the first a second time, then a third.

By the time you're managing 20 100k/y managers instead of 20 teenagers with attitude you'll have 20 restaurants; you'll be making 600k/y each.

Cut your pay 300k/y and hire a CEO with a history of growing corporations; become worth millions.


Everyone who doesn't have this sort of game-plan with their small business isn't so much entrepreneurial as someone that just wanted to 'create a job' for him or her self.


it wasn't addressed. That's a nebulous situation and easily exploitable...
If i pay 3.50 for a toothless from your mom am I exploiting her? She's got a crack-habit to feed man.
 
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Tipping 15 to 20 percent is the custom in this country. You should factor that in to your decision on where you're going to eat. If you can't afford the 20% tip you shouldn't be eating out.
 
My wife waited her way through college, she said even the black servers got pissed when they had to serve black people.
 
Tipping 15 to 20 percent is the custom in this country. You should factor that in to your decision on where you're going to eat. If you can't afford the 20% tip you shouldn't be eating out.

True.


On the other hand: I just got extra-slow service in a 10 table shop an hour before lunch (nearly dead) with two waitresses on staff.

I'm a white man in a business suit and she can't seem to keep up with the service. I tipped 12% to show my outrage..

My wife waited her way through college, she said even the black servers got pissed when they had to serve black people.
My mom waited tables for 20 years to support her 5 kids and the hell if she didn't give the same great service to everyone: even the rich Mexicans that came across the boarder, treated denies like it was supposed to be Ruth's Chris Steak House and didn't tip at all.

What you expect as a tip should never impact your service quality; your service quality should be the only thing that impacts your expectation of a tip.
 
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True.


On the other hand: I just got extra-slow service in a 10 table shop an hour before lunch (nearly dead) with two waitresses on staff.

I'm a white man in a business suit and she can't seem to keep up with the service. I tipped 12% to show my outrage..


My mom waited tables for 20 years to support her 5 kids and the hell if she didn't give the same great service to everyone: even the rich Mexicans that came across the boarder, treated denies like it was supposed to be Ruth's Chris Steak House and didn't tip at all.

What you expect as a tip should never impact your service quality; your service quality should be the only thing that impacts your expectation of a tip.

Your mom wasn't just waiting tables. She was fucking the horse in Dubuque County for a extra cash for y'all to get by. Sorry to have to break it to you like this. She did put on a show, tho...

There's no reason for personal attacks like this. -Admin DrPizza
 
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diar(rhea) said:
My point still stands. The servers should not be begging for tips. They should get a proper wage. The owner is abusing the workers with this wage setup and they are both screwing the government.
Wow; what an inane post. On every level it ignores both any salient facts that have been posted in the thread and all forms of thought and reason. I can only conclude that you are trying to justify abusing your wait-staff through some oblique psychological justification based on "justice".

My point still stands.
Every part of your point was defeated.

1%s strike again.
You've ignored that you are 100% wrong about owners being 1% ers. Being an entitled prat focused on income disparity I assume you have a degree in something useless and feel bad you took out too much in student loans; that or you projecting ignorance in-order to cover your own inability to become accomplished academically. If you were worth something to society you would know that 60k/year does not a "1%er" make.

That's a nebulous situation and easily exploitable...
a jello-spine level slither away from confronting how incredibly wrong you are. You embarrass your self with such witless counter arguments that I imagine that your real-life friends (big assumption I know) know this of you, but are to afraid to tell you. That or you surround yourself with sycophants that never question you, so your wittless-icisms are assumed gold.

They have customers fighting servers while they cut the latter's pay
This is Marxism misapplied to the hilt. Either you see every encounter in-society from a your ridiculous Marxist perspective because your a sociology major or you stumbled upon class-confrontation while smoking a joint and talking about the 1% with your 'friends'.

Either way, the dope you sling to your 'friends' and the intensely 'insightful' shit you say while high does not translate to making any sort of point.

I'm sorry: not for telling you you are wrong, but for how wrong you are.

I agree with your perspective, you just present it so poorly I'm left with no other conclusion to draw that you were a crack baby
 
Tipping 15 to 20 percent is the custom in this country. You should factor that in to your decision on where you're going to eat. If you can't afford the 20% tip you shouldn't be eating out.



Exactly; those of you who keep trying to justify your cheapness, you are on even par with those the OP's article is about.
 
Wow; what an inane post. On every level it ignores both any salient facts that have been posted in the thread and all forms of thought and reason. I can only conclude that you are trying to justify abusing your wait-staff through some oblique psychological justification based on "justice".

Every part of your point was defeated.

You've ignored that you are 100% wrong about owners being 1% ers. Being an entitled prat focused on income disparity I assume you have a degree in something useless and feel bad you took out too much in student loans; that or you projecting ignorance in-order to cover your own inability to become accomplished academically. If you were worth something to society you would know that 60k/year does not a "1%er" make.

a jello-spine level slither away from confronting how incredibly wrong you are. You embarrass your self with such witless counter arguments that I imagine that your real-life friends (big assumption I know) know this of you, but are to afraid to tell you. That or you surround yourself with sycophants that never question you, so your wittless-icisms are assumed gold.

This is Marxism misapplied to the hilt. Either you see every encounter in-society from a your ridiculous Marxist perspective because your a sociology major or you stumbled upon class-confrontation while smoking a joint and talking about the 1% with your 'friends'.

Either way, the dope you sling to your 'friends' and the intensely 'insightful' shit you say while high does not translate to making any sort of point.

I'm sorry: not for telling you you are wrong, but for how wrong you are.

I agree with your perspective, you just present it so poorly I'm left with no other conclusion to draw that you were a crack baby

I know you're butthurt because you and your moms had to wait tables. And that I outed her on these here forums. But don't feel too bad. She enjoyed it.
 
Exactly; those of you who keep trying to justify your cheapness, you are on even par with those the OP's article is about.

There is no law that states so. If you give bad service you get no tip from me. Good service will get you 15%, not a percentage more. A waiter is not entitled to a fucking tip. Let them earn it.
 
I know you're butthurt because you and your moms had to wait tables. And that I outed her on these here forums. But don't feel too bad. She enjoyed it.

I gave you a chance to offer a response in earnest to your clearly dishonest dialog.

Clearly you are beneath conversing with.
 
There is no law that states so. If you give bad service you get no tip from me. Good service will get you 15%, not a percentage more. A waiter is not entitled to a fucking tip. Let them earn it.

I'm not sure what you're getting so upset about. No one cares if you leave a bad tip or no tip when you get bad service. We're talking about people that give bad tips or don't tip, even if they get good service. Certain cultures are known for doing this, it's not even debatable.
 
I gave you a chance to offer a response in earnest to your clearly dishonest dialog.

Clearly you are beneath conversing with.

Dari is a racist, he gets like this any time black people are criticized. You'd do better just ignoring him, he's not rational when you're discussing anything related to race.
 
this thread has reached 10 pages?

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I'm not sure what you're getting so upset about. No one cares if you leave a bad tip or no tip when you get bad service. We're talking about people that give bad tips or don't tip, even if they get good service. Certain cultures are known for doing this, it's not even debatable.

Please. Some people are not familiar with it. And the restaurant should pay better. End of story.
Dari is a racist, he gets like this any time black people are criticized. You'd do better just ignoring him, he's not rational when you're discussing anything related to race.

Haha. I'm not racist. I'd like you to show where I get like this when race is involved. You don't even know what race I am.
 
Please. Some people are not familiar with it. And the restaurant should pay better. End of story.

Ok....sure....🙄 Most people know they're supposed to tip.


Haha. I'm not racist. I'd like you to show where I get like this when race is involved. You don't even know what race I am.

Your race is irrelevant. The fact that you think it matters just goes to prove my point.

There's no point in discussing this further, you, just like Classy and Quebert, will try to deny this or make excuses. Everyone knows that black people are generally bad tippers. I have no idea why, but it's just how it is.
 
Thanks for "giving" me that chance. Please, oh sir, may I have another.
No, you lost that right when you failed to be funny. Internet rules: be smart or funny, you lose.

Dari is a racist, he gets like this any time black people are criticized. You'd do better just ignoring him, he's not rational when you're discussing anything related to race.

Thanks for the heads up.

The fact that you think it matters just goes to prove my point.
100% this.
 
Ok....sure....🙄 Most people know they're supposed to tip.




Your race is irrelevant. The fact that you think it matters just goes to prove my point.

There's no point in discussing this further, you, just like Classy and Quebert, will try to deny this or make excuses. Everyone knows that black people are generally bad tippers. I have no idea why, but it's just how it is.

Don't start what you can't finish. You made an accusation and I asked you for proof and you run away. Chickenshit.
 
No, you lost that right when you failed to be funny. Internet rules: be smart or funny, you lose.

That's sarcasm. I don't give two squirts of piss what you think. This is all entertainment to me. Your opinion means as much to me as that bug I stepped on today on Maiden Lane. Yeah, that one...
 
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