Blackberry Users

bob4432

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well, my windows mobile phones always keep text message until i erase them, but this bb seems to erase them after a month or so? wtf?

is there some setting i am missing? i have now lost some txts i need and am hoping there are in some archive area that you guys can lead me to?

i think the unit is the bb curve...please help...
 

Cdubneeddeal

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Oct 22, 2003
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Texts that you sent or? I think by default it saves the previous 7 items from a specific number but you can set it higher up to 50.
 

DivideBYZero

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There is a setting.

- Go to messages
- Hit the BB key
- Choose Options
- Choose 'General Options'
- Set 'Keep messages' to whatever you want. Forever is an option, but this also affects email.

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bob4432

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Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
Texts that you sent or? I think by default it saves the previous 7 items from a specific number but you can set it higher up to 50.

both incoming and outgoing...will check this out
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
There is a setting.

- Go to messages
- Hit the BB key
- Choose Options
- Choose 'General Options'
- Set 'Keep messages' to whatever you want. Forever is an option, but this also affects email.

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so i guess up until this point, all the old ones are gone? shit :|
 

DivideBYZero

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You can also 'save' messages(select message in SMS app, hit BB key, choose 'save' )you want to be exempt from the delete process. So do this with important messages and then you can keep the auto cleanup.

The problem with having a 'forever' setting is that at some point in the future you'll have 400,000 emails/texts and you'll just run out of RAM!
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Yep. Sucks. What was it set to? Is this a new device or 'new to you'?

last night i was going through the phone and hadn't seen this post, but their were 233 messages but that only went back to i think late october since it was logging calls to the messages too???

i will have to look at the phone a bit later today and make the necessary changes. out of curiosity, why does bb default like this? hell, there is a 2GB card in the phone.
 

DivideBYZero

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Late October? Or Sept? Like I said, check the current message retention setting. It could be a week, it could be a month or you can set it to forever. It's not limited, but you have to set it up how you want it to work. Your Curve has 128Mb of RAM. That is shared with OS, apps and messages. The messages, however are very small. When reading a mail anything over ~4k will not be collected from the server until you scroll down, when it will download the rest of the msg in the background so you can read it (sometimes you'll see 'fetching more, 3876 bytes' or similar). If you had 30Mb free for messages, you could still keep more than 7000 messages before you ran out of memory and it's unlikely you will have that little unless you install tons of apps.

The SD cards are hot-swappable, i.e., you cannot guarantee that a card is there or will remain to be there. They use internal memory and as a messaging unit are not designed to keep an entire PST like a desktop computer.

It's a learning curve, but you can also split out the SMS and Phone logs so they don't show in your messages list. I don't like SMS to be mixed in with email, but I do have phone logs in my messages list. You can mix it up how you like it. In each area, hit BB key then options to set it up just how you like it.

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bob4432

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Late October? Or Sept? Like I said, check the current message retention setting. It could be a week, it could be a month or you can set it to forever. It's not limited, but you have to set it up how you want it to work. Your Curve has 128Mb of RAM. That is shared with OS, apps and messages. The messages, however are very small. When reading a mail anything over ~4k will not be collected from the server until you scroll down, when it will download the rest of the msg in the background so you can read it (sometimes you'll see 'fetching more, 3876 bytes' or similar). If you had 30Mb free for messages, you could still keep more than 7000 messages before you ran out of memory and it's unlikely you will have that little unless you install tons of apps.

The SD cards are hot-swappable, i.e., you cannot guarantee that a card is there or will remain to be there. They use internal memory and as a messaging unit are not designed to keep an entire PST like a desktop computer.

It's a learning curve, but you can also split out the SMS and Phone logs so they don't show in your messages list. I don't like SMS to be mixed in with email, but I do have phone logs in my messages list. You can mix it up how you like it. In each area, hit BB key then options to set it up just how you like it.

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guess it was a month - it was set to 30days....damn, oh well, now it is set to 6mos. guess i am too use to the windows mobile phone that keeps them by default until there is a memory issue. man, the messages i need are from july - is there any way to get them through a web site from verizon or are they gone?

the phone is not mine, but my wifes through one of her clients so i never took much to it - she handled it all...uuugghhh

as far as apps, only the default apps are installed, she hasn't installed anything

tia for not shredding me being a bb noob
 

DivideBYZero

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Not at all. I'd never slam someone for asking for help! If you have any other issues or questions, let me know.
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Not at all. I'd never slam someone for asking for help! If you have any other issues or questions, let me know.

thanks, appreciate that. will definiately ask. i guess one question is why do poeple love the bbs over a windows mobile phone? i know i don't know much about the bbs, so maybe that is it, but the overall picture kind of makes them look rather equal. what is it that sets the bbs apart?
 

DivideBYZero

Lifer
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Originally posted by: bob4432
Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Not at all. I'd never slam someone for asking for help! If you have any other issues or questions, let me know.

thanks, appreciate that. will definiately ask. i guess one question is why do poeple love the bbs over a windows mobile phone? i know i don't know much about the bbs, so maybe that is it, but the overall picture kind of makes them look rather equal. what is it that sets the bbs apart?

Keyboards, push email/messaging and full integration to enterprise mail, such as Exchange, Domino, etc. Other than that they're smartphones and thus they do the same stuff, but in mildly different ways.