BlackBerry PlayBook - Live demo, flash 10.1

[DivideBYZero]

This demo was at the Adobe conference and shows the PlayBook in action. Not only that, but Mike L has promised PlayBooks to developers that get Apps approved in App world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTI2OWRzxwg

NOTE: Some Engadget posters have been stating the usual, such as, 'OMG it's not smooth, jerky, not responding to flick gesture, but if you look at the entire youtube video everything is jerky and out of sync, just look at the mouth sync with sound and the low frame rate when panning or when Mike moves his arm fast. If you check out this audience member video, it's very smooth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6w3sNPtFXM

 

[Deeko]

Looks pretty solid. I'm intruiged by this whole "devs who get apps approved get a Playbook" part. I think I could throw something together.....

I was going to post this news, but figured I'd wait. So many people on here claimed the Playbook "didn't exist", but I figured since we're all just gadget enthusiests here and not mindless fanboys that someone would post it, in the interest of spreading gadget news....

 

[Puddle Jumper]

I can't believe I'm saying this but the Playbook may be the most interesting tablet announced so far.

 

[TheStu]

My thoughts:
The app switching looks very WebOS like, but there is nothing wrong with that, it all looked very smooth on this page

It appears to be a 16:9 form factor, and I am still not sold on that, I would need to get my hands on one.

The fact that the entire thing is built on Adobe AIR strikes me as a bad idea from RIM's standpoint. They have just put the entire OS into Adobe's hands.

The guy in the purple shirt is incredibly annoying.

 

[MrX8503]

Looks pretty good. There's some lag in there, but its not terrible lag.

The multi looks very webOS like, which is good because I like how webOS handles multitasking. I wish they would of talked about that more.

 

[TheStu]

Looks pretty good. There's some lag in there, but its not terrible lag.

The multi looks very webOS like, which is good because I like how webOS handles multitasking. I wish they would of talked about that more.

Well, I think it was an Adobe conference, so it makes sense that they would spend more time talking about how everything is built in AIR.

 

[DivideBYZero]

My thoughts:
The app switching looks very WebOS like, but there is nothing wrong with that, it all looked very smooth on this page

It appears to be a 16:9 form factor, and I am still not sold on that, I would need to get my hands on one.

The fact that the entire thing is built on Adobe AIR strikes me as a bad idea from RIM's standpoint. They have just put the entire OS into Adobe's hands.

The guy in the purple shirt is incredibly annoying.

It's not built on AIR. Lookup QNX.

 

[TheStu]

It's not built on AIR. Lookup QNX.

Sorry, I meant all the apps were built on AIR from what I have read/heard.

 

[BlahBlahYouToo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTI2OWRzxwg

NOTE: Some Engadget posters have been stating the usual, such as, 'OMG it's not smooth, jerky, not responding to flick gesture, but if you look at the entire youtube video everything is jerky and out of sync, just look at the mouth sync with sound and the low frame rate when panning or when Mike moves his arm fast. If you check out this audience member video, it's very smooth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6w3sNPtFXM

what are you talking about? there is a huge delay from the time he swipes the finger to scroll, to the time the tablet responds.
better than my storm2 but still not refined like the iphone/ipad.

and big bezel = ugly.

 

[MrX8503]

and big bezel = ugly.

Although the bezel is quite large, there isn't a tablet out yet that has a small bezel.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Sorry, I meant all the apps were built on AIR from what I have read/heard.

The apps can be built on AIR, but the OS is true POSIX compliant, making porting apps from other *nix based OS' easy, then you also have WebWorks, regular Java and HTML5 among other dev options.

The current focus on AIR is obviously based upon the development community that surrounds it. You instantly have 3 million developers that can target the PlayBook right now. No retraining, nothing. Just go nuts.

 

[TheStu]

The apps can be built on AIR, but the OS is true POSIX compliant, making porting apps from other *nix based OS' easy, then you also have WebWorks, regular Java and HTML5 among other dev options.

The current focus on AIR is obviously based upon the development community that surrounds it. You instantly have 3 million developers that can target the PlayBook right now. No retraining, nothing. Just go nuts.

Ah, I was just seeing AIR get mentioned more, and the fact that the RIM guy was up there pimping it's AIR abilities, I made an assumption.

From a consistency stanpoint, I wonder how the multiple development vectors thing will work out for them. On the desktop at least there is a wide gap between AIR apps, Java apps, and native apps on both Windows and OS X.

 

[gsaldivar]

The guy in the purple shirt is incredibly annoying.

His glasses are sooo hipster... (borderline steampunk!) :biggrin:

 

[DivideBYZero]

Well now THIS is interesting. A developer has already created a third party browser for the PlayBook...in 2.5 hours! Pretty promising for time to market for developers.

Link:

http://www.berryreview.com/2010/10/27/developer-creates-blackberry-playbook-browser-in-2-5-hours/

 

[Deeko]

BlackBerry PlayBook to cost 'under' $500
By Thomas Ricker posted Nov 10th 2010 1:57AM
RIM co-CEO Jim Balsillie finally gave us a crucial bit of information about the BlackBerry Playbook this morning: price, or at least a threshold. According to a Korean interview, Balsillie said that RIM's 7-inch tablet will be "very competitively priced" with Bloomberg quoting the man saying that it will be "under" $500 when it hits North America in the first quarter of 2011, expanding globally in Q2. A price that should at least match the 9.7-inch WiFi-only iPad (16GB) and undercut the 7-inch 3G Galaxy Tab which goes on sale on Verizon tomorrow for $599.99. Thing is, by the time Q1 rolls around we're going to be looking at many, many more viable tablet alternatives including a likely Apple refresh.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/10/blackberry-playbook-to-cost-under-500/

"It doesn't really exist"
"It will probably cost $999"

Yet another assumption-Blackberry-haters-made-with-no-evidence looking like its shot down...what's next? I'm sure you'll come up with another.

 

[MrX8503]

If it costs $500 then it'll be the cheapest and viable tablet available.

Something that's overlooked is that the iPad's screen is not only larger, but its also an IPS screen. IPS screens aren't cheap and if I'm not mistaken the Playbook and Galaxy Tab has regular TFT LCDs. Maybe a future Galaxy Tab we'll get some SAMOLED action.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I still don't see the reason for a 7" tablet, they're too samll to work on.

And I'm impressed with the pricing, if they can pull it off, they'll do well.

 

[WelshBloke]

I still don't see the reason for a 7" tablet, they're too samll to work on.

And I'm impressed with the pricing, if they can pull it off, they'll do well.

Does anyone really buy the modern breed of tablets to do work on?

 

[DivideBYZero]

If it costs $500 then it'll be the cheapest and viable tablet available.

Something that's overlooked is that the iPad's screen is not only larger, but its also an IPS screen. IPS screens aren't cheap and if I'm not mistaken the Playbook and Galaxy Tab has regular TFT LCDs. Maybe a future Galaxy Tab we'll get some SAMOLED action.

Link to PlayBook screen tech announcement?

 

[DivideBYZero]

I still don't see the reason for a 7" tablet, they're too samll to work on.

And I'm impressed with the pricing, if they can pull it off, they'll do well.

Looks pretty good, even for MR scans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyJVNK7aSW4

 

[MrX8503]

Link to PlayBook screen tech announcement?

I'm only assuming. If it's a special screen out of the ordinary they would of stated it. Samsung is the driving force behind oleds and displays in general, but yet their display is a plain LCD.

RIM could later reveal that it's using a better screen, but I'll assume it's not until they say so.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Looks pretty good, even for MR scans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyJVNK7aSW4

I work with radiologists, they say looking at an mri on a 7 inch screen is pretty moronic

 

[WelshBloke]

I work with radiologists, they say looking at an mri on a 7 inch screen is pretty moronic

I work with orthopaedic surgeons they think looking at xrays on an iPad is moronic.
I also work with consultant neurologists they, also, think that reporting on MRI's on an iPad is moronic.

I'm sure it was you that was pimping that as a good use of them.

 

[Pliablemoose]

I work with orthopaedic surgeons they think looking at xrays on an iPad is moronic.
I also work with consultant neurologists they, also, think that reporting on MRI's on an iPad is moronic.

I'm sure it was you that was pimping that as a good use of them.

Actually our docs want iPads, they asked specifically for them. It's not so much the OS or the manufacturer, they want a 10" touchscreen that works for rounding on patients.

What's out there beside the iPad is slow, heavy, has a crappy UI, etc...

The web based emr we use is petty slick.

I don't think any tablet is useful for interpreting imaging studies yet...

 

[WelshBloke]

Actually our docs want iPads, they asked specifically for them. It's not so much the OS or the manufacturer, they want a 10" touchscreen that works for rounding on patients.

What's out there beside the iPad is slow, heavy, has a crappy UI, etc...

The web based emr we use is petty slick.

I don't think any tablet is useful for interpreting imaging studies yet...

I remember you specifically pickig MRI reporting, and I'm sure thats why DivideBYZero picked that video.
For you to call it moronic is not only dishonest but also hypocritical.


How well do the iPads mesh in with the rest of your network? Theres a lot of patient confidentiality issues with using wireless systems for patient reporting. How closely is Apple working with you on this?