Black Presidential candidate, Alan Keyes, demands Obama's full birth certificificate.

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AlienCraft

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Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Repubs got whupped in 2006 and again in 2008 because their pitch and ideology lack legitimacy. It was never intended to actually deliver good government, but merely to sell, to win elections.

Part and parcel of that pitch is to attempt to deny legitimacy to the other side with a variety of accusations- voter fraud, ascribing blame for the current economic situation, even snivelling about a birth certificate. The list goes on from there. When all you've got to offer is ruin, try to ruin the opposition.

Whenever Alan Keyes is dragged out into the spotlight, figure they're desperate, using his blackness as a foil, a misdirection play...
This playing of the race card , this late in the game, shows the level of desperation by the radical right.
It's as if Mr. Keyes' race should give additional weight to an arguement already discounted or dismissed.
Sorry, I'm sure the GOP Brown Water Force was quite diligent in it's efforts to Swift Boat Obama and since nothing came of that effort, it appears they are grasping at straw (man arguements) to push their agenda.
 

trenchfoot

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So I guess even if the Secret service, the FBI, the CIA and all the other Fed Agencies that is tasked to exhaustively screen Congressional/Presidential candidates for Security Clearances haven't found an iota of evidence to disqualify Obama, the Obama haters are STILL unconvinced as to his eligibility? LOL LOL LOL

Geeezzz, so much delusional hatred, so much silliness, so much desperate fear of the man who is going to be our next POTUS. Get over it. Get Real. Get ahold of yourselves fer cry'in out loud.:disgust:
 

daniel49

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: daniel49
Originally posted by: JS80
Originally posted by: L00PY
Originally posted by: K3N
Obama Birth Certificate Fraud Proof
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE


Please try to disprove the second youtube link. Again please im asking, why can't obama realease his full birth certificate and even his college application?
I'll admit I jumped a bit around with that second link but it's pretty silly and way to slow. He seems to be repeating those tinfoil hat claims that the documentation Obama provided was a fake because there weren't folds, you couldn't see the raised seal, and so on.

All of that has been disproved. There are crease marks visible in other shots. There is a raised seal. There is a signature stamp. It is a legal document per Hawaii laws.

That's a laser printout that was recently printed. There is still a huge loophole for conspiracy theorists. I am over it all, but I would still like to see the following items to shut everyone up:

1) original birth certificate
2) SAT score
3) LSAT score
4) College transcripts

That should shut everyone up so we can move on to focus on how Obama plans to "change" this country.

qft
That's still not enough. I'd like to see that plus a blood test, stool sample, colonoscopy (video of it on youtube, so we're sure it's really his colon), verified hair sample authenicated by no less than six universities, analysis of toe-nail clippings, phone records for every call he's ever made or any of the people he's met have ever paid, plus dissection of his cerebrum to ensure that during its formative first few days out of the womb there are traces of microbes native to Hawaii hanging around in those cells and not those native to Kenya.

Finally, let's just throw that terrorist muslim in a damn jail cell.

I hear the verizon people are already on the phonecall analysis.
 

Deliximus

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how can he be a hardcore fundamental Muslim terrorist when he eats pork? It's like giving the finger to jesus and burning the cross at your church if you're a hardcore christian.
 

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Within just 24 hours, this petition has received over 28000 signatures
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/i...PAGE.view&pageId=81550

Over 38000 now. Learn to start upholding the constitution right now, or it won't exist anymore people!

Originally posted by: tweaker2
So I guess even if the Secret service, the FBI, the CIA and all the other Fed Agencies that is tasked to exhaustively screen Congressional/Presidential candidates for Security Clearances haven't found an iota of evidence to disqualify Obama, the Obama haters are STILL unconvinced as to his eligibility? LOL LOL LOL

Geeezzz, so much delusional hatred, so much silliness, so much desperate fear of the man who is going to be our next POTUS. Get over it. Get Real. Get ahold of yourselves fer cry'in out loud.:disgust:

These globalist trashs don't give a crap about the rules.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: K3N
Within just 24 hours, this petition has received over 28000 signatures
h[/i]ttp://www.world-NUT-daily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550

Fixed it for ya. No need to thank me. :laugh:

Over 38000 now. Learn to start upholding the constitution right now, or it won't exist anymore people!

Do all of you live at the same care facility? Do you get group discounts on your meds? :confused:
 

umbrella39

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Originally posted by: K3N
Within just 24 hours, this petition has received over 28000 signatures
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/i...PAGE.view&pageId=81550

Over 38000 now. Learn to start upholding the constitution right now, or it won't exist anymore people!

Originally posted by: tweaker2
So I guess even if the Secret service, the FBI, the CIA and all the other Fed Agencies that is tasked to exhaustively screen Congressional/Presidential candidates for Security Clearances haven't found an iota of evidence to disqualify Obama, the Obama haters are STILL unconvinced as to his eligibility? LOL LOL LOL

Geeezzz, so much delusional hatred, so much silliness, so much desperate fear of the man who is going to be our next POTUS. Get over it. Get Real. Get ahold of yourselves fer cry'in out loud.:disgust:

These globalist trashs don't give a crap about the rules.

It must suck to be you.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: umbrella39
Originally posted by: K3N
Within just 24 hours, this petition has received over 28000 signatures
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/i...PAGE.view&pageId=81550

Over 38000 now. Learn to start upholding the constitution right now, or it won't exist anymore people!

Originally posted by: tweaker2
So I guess even if the Secret service, the FBI, the CIA and all the other Fed Agencies that is tasked to exhaustively screen Congressional/Presidential candidates for Security Clearances haven't found an iota of evidence to disqualify Obama, the Obama haters are STILL unconvinced as to his eligibility? LOL LOL LOL

Geeezzz, so much delusional hatred, so much silliness, so much desperate fear of the man who is going to be our next POTUS. Get over it. Get Real. Get ahold of yourselves fer cry'in out loud.:disgust:

These globalist trashs don't give a crap about the rules.

It must double suck to be you. -- corrected to better describe what it must be like to be him!!

 

AFMatt

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Seriously, whether you like Obama or not, it is hard to believe he would have gone this far without actually having met the criteria outlined in the Constitution. If this issue had solid merit not only would just about every Republican in office be screaming, but many Democrats would be as well.

The problem, however, is apparently a statue in Hawaii lets you register a birth in the state, even if born outside the state, so long as you claimed residency to the state for a year prior to birth. A registration of birth isn't a legal document. There are also, as you all know, the questions of why there isnt a raised notary stamp on Obama's certificate (the black printed state seal on the top is just letterhead, not a stamp), why it isnt signed, why it is an obvious computer generated image and not a scan of an original file, why the image posted to his site is as 2D as can be (no folds, wrinkles, flaws), why a hex editor shows it was edited in Photoshop CS3, etc, etc blah blah blah.

A suit was filed against McCain for the same type of thing because he was born in Panama. In his case, however, his father was military and stationed there on a U.S. base, both parents were US citizens, and, even though he provided an actual birth certificate that originated in Panama, he was declared a natural-born citizen.
The burden of proof really lies in Obama's hands, as this whole thing could have died in a second if he just provided a real birth certificate. The Supreme Court will eventually have to see it.
 

Jhhnn

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This must be some kind of imitation of an Onion piece.

The document provided by Obama is the same as that issued to any person born in Hawaii by the State of Hawaii, and has been confirmed by the State to be genuine.

After that, it's just a rightwing conspiracy theory circlejerk.

The SCOTUS? Get real, if that's possible. There's not a court worthy of the name that'll touch such scurrilous accusations with a 10 ft. pole. Such suits have already been dismissed in Hawaii, Ohio, Philadelphia and Seattle.

But, rave on and file away, fools. The louder you scream, the stupider you sound.
 

L00PY

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Originally posted by: AFMatt
There are also, as you all know, the questions of why there isnt a raised notary stamp on Obama's certificate (the black printed state seal on the top is just letterhead, not a stamp)(1) , why it isnt signed(2), why it is an obvious computer generated image and not a scan of an original file(3), why the image posted to his site is as 2D as can be (no folds, wrinkles, flaws)(4), why a hex editor shows it was edited in Photoshop CS3(5), etc, etc blah blah blah.
(1) Raised notary seal.
(2) Signature stamp.
(3) Not CG.
(4) Folded and creased.
(5) Sorry, no picture here but they did PhotoShop out the certificate number. What's your point?

All courtesy of FactCheck.org. Come up with something a little harder to soundly disprove?
 
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Originally posted by: L00PY
Originally posted by: AFMatt
There are also, as you all know, the questions of why there isnt a raised notary stamp on Obama's certificate (the black printed state seal on the top is just letterhead, not a stamp)(1) , why it isnt signed(2), why it is an obvious computer generated image and not a scan of an original file(3), why the image posted to his site is as 2D as can be (no folds, wrinkles, flaws)(4), why a hex editor shows it was edited in Photoshop CS3(5), etc, etc blah blah blah.
(1) Raised notary seal.
(2) Signature stamp.
(3) Not CG.
(4) Folded and creased.
(5) Sorry, no picture here but they did PhotoShop out the certificate number. What's your point?

All courtesy of FactCheck.org. Come up with something a little harder to soundly disprove?

Stop injecting facts into this debate.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: L00PY

(5) Sorry, no picture here but they did PhotoShop out the certificate number. What's your point?

Here's another pic from factcheck.org showing Certificate Number 151 1961 - 010641. :cool:

However, as good as they are, even factcheck.org has no idea what AFMatt's point is. But then, neither does he. :p
 

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: K3N
Within just 24 hours, this petition has received over 28000 signatures
h[/i]ttp://www.world-NUT-daily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550

Fixed it for ya. No need to thank me. :laugh:

Harvey calling someone a nut. LAWLZ!
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Corbett

Harvey calling someone a nut. LAWLZ!

The children are so easily amused. Not very bright, not very informed, and definitely not right, but easily amused. :laugh:
 

AFMatt

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Originally posted by: L00PY
Originally posted by: AFMatt
There are also, as you all know, the questions of why there isnt a raised notary stamp on Obama's certificate (the black printed state seal on the top is just letterhead, not a stamp)(1) , why it isnt signed(2), why it is an obvious computer generated image and not a scan of an original file(3), why the image posted to his site is as 2D as can be (no folds, wrinkles, flaws)(4), why a hex editor shows it was edited in Photoshop CS3(5), etc, etc blah blah blah.
(1) Raised notary seal.
(2) Signature stamp.
(3) Not CG.
(4) Folded and creased.
(5) Sorry, no picture here but they did PhotoShop out the certificate number. What's your point?

All courtesy of FactCheck.org. Come up with something a little harder to soundly disprove?

None of those are my arguments. As I said, I find it hard to believe he would have made it this far if he weren't qualified. And there would surely be far more people in D.C. raising the BS flag by now, right?
No, those are the arguments of those who think he truly is hiding something, and the ones filing suits.
As far as factcheck's digicam picture, it clearly doesnt match the "scanned" image Obama posted to his own site.
Fight The Smears
Do you see any creases or a stamp in that picture? Even when you apply every edge enhancing filter known to man to that image he posted (not the altered images at some blog sites), you will not see a single crease or seal on it. Other people from Hawaii have posted their certificates of live birth for comparison, and the creases and embossed stamp are clearly evident and the borders are a completely different pattern...the border on Obama's also overlaps at the corners.
Is it any wonder people might think it is fake? Look at it, it really does look pretty damn fake. Why doesn't Obama's own rumor killing site have pictures of the actual document like factcheck? Why is factcheck the only source that has actually seen this document? You would think Obama's advisors would have also shown it to CNN and MSNBC by now.
At any rate, you know none of those accusers will rest until they see an actual birth certificate, from Hawaii, that proves he meets the requirements to be President.



 

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Corbett

Harvey calling someone a nut. LAWLZ!

The children are so easily amused. Not very bright, not very informed, and definitely not right, but easily amused. :laugh:

Well compared to an old senile fart like yourself, I guess I would be considered a child as far as age goes.

But we both know who the "not very bright, not very informed, and definitely not right" one is here. The guy who wrote and quotes his own song about his hate in his own sig!
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Corbett

Well compared to an old senile fart like yourself, I guess I would be considered a child as far as age goes.

If you're going to call me senile, you'd better be prepared to prove it. Otherwise...

:lips: my (_!_)

But we both know who the "not very bright, not very informed, and definitely not right" one is here. The guy who wrote and quotes his own song about his hate in his own sig!

My song is about the crimes committed against our nation by your Traitor In Chief and his gang of traitors, murderers, torturers, war criminals, war profiteers. The lyrics are there at the link. I challenge you to disprove the facts to which they refer.

If you think you can, remember, I've got a hard drive full of my famous "macros" ready to prove how full of shit you are. :laugh:

If you don't detest the Bushwhacko criminals, the only possiblities are that you're too stupid to understand the heinous crimes they've committed, or you're one of the criminals.

Which is it? :Q
 
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Originally posted by: AFMatt
At any rate, you know none of those accusers will rest until they see an actual birth certificate, from Hawaii, that proves he meets the requirements to be President.

None of the accusers will stop even if they did see the certificate themselves. They'd just latch onto another form of their great conspiracy.
 

BudAshes

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This really serious like its really serious that 911 was a george bush conspiracy. Fucking nut jobs.
 

AFMatt

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Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Originally posted by: AFMatt
At any rate, you know none of those accusers will rest until they see an actual birth certificate, from Hawaii, that proves he meets the requirements to be President.

None of the accusers will stop even if they did see the certificate themselves. They'd just latch onto another form of their great conspiracy.

True. People will always find something to gripe about when it comes to the President. I don't think they will find anything that could have implications as massive as this, however. Once Obama shows the real deal, or the courts just tell them to shut the hell up, they wont have much to do but revert to the usual bickering about policy and piddly crap.

 

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Once Obama shows the real deal, or the courts just tell them to shut the hell up

I don't see why either Obama nor the courts have to get involved seeing as how the proper authorities who DO access and have examined the documents have already vouched for their authenticity. Even if Obama posts the information or a court does get involved, conspiracy theorists will simply dismiss an authenticity verdict as collaboration.

They gave their arguments, others rebutted them with evidence. If it ain't enough for them, let them present otherwise or just STFU.
 

Jhhnn

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The beauty of being addicted to outrage as opposed to some substance is that it's truly all in the mind of the victim- they don't need good stuff, they can even get off on bunk...
 

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Originally posted by: BudAshes
This really serious like its really serious that 911 was a george bush conspiracy. Fucking nut jobs.

OMG! Obama was not in the WTC on 9/11! Why? Did he know something? Was he behind it? Didn't his father work on the fake lunar landing set? :shocked:

And look at all those weird happenings on the day he was born!

http://www.brainyhistory.com/days/august_4.html

;)