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black people should "get over slavery"

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Can't wait for the news that reports the new, special conference being held debating whether slavery in the US even existed and if it did, whether it was as widespread as it was.
 
Lets see, I don't know the name of a singal one of my grandparents, and I only ever met one. I have no clue about anything of my great grandparents, or their ancestors. Blaming your problems in life on something that happened 10 generations ago is NOT gonna get you anywhere in life. Your problems now are your own d@mn problems, deal with them isntead of blaming me for something that my acestors from 200 years ago may or may not have done (I don't have the first clue in hell where they came from or if they owned slaved, but its harder for me to get into college because they were apparently not slaves). The past should be remembered, of course, but people living in the present should not blame their problems on people from hudreds of years ago. Maybe my acestors came to the US becasue they were persecuted for their religion in Europe, does that mean I should blame my bad GPA on those dirty Europeans and those hard headed Catholics?
 
Originally posted by: LtPage1
One, name one instance of that ever happening.
And two: Well, honestly, it's pretty ridiculous to argue that the situation of blacks and Jews today wouldn't be different (better? Well, yes. Duh.) had slavery or the Holocaust not happened.

C'mon now, people. Think.
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c'mon now, think...

minorities are better off because of slavery. dont believe me? affirmative action in the jobplace, government, and education means someone can be LESS qualified for a position and get it over a MORE QUALIFIED cantidate, just because the more qualified cantidate was white.

but i digress.

 
Originally posted by: illusion88
Just like the jews should "get over the holocaust"
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-1 for bringing up the Nazi's when it's not needed.

I don't see Jews sitting around lazily asking for free government handouts.
 
Originally posted by: BrownTown
Lets see, I don't know the name of a singal one of my grandparents, and I only ever met one. I have no clue about anything of my great grandparents, or their ancestors. Blaming your problems in life on something that happened 10 generations ago is NOT gonna get you anywhere in life. Your problems now are your own d@mn problems, deal with them isntead of blaming me for something that my acestors from 200 years ago may or may not have done (I don't have the first clue in hell where they came from or if they owned slaved, but its harder for me to get into college because they were apparently not slaves). The past should be remembered, of course, but people living in the present should not blame their problems on people from hudreds of years ago. Maybe my acestors came to the US becasue they were persecuted for their religion in Europe, does that mean I should blame my bad GPA on those dirty Europeans and those hard headed Catholics?
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True, if you want to put it in retrospect the Japanese were interned durring world war 2. Many lost their life's saving when they had to go to the Camps but yet they're doing good for a minority group.
 
Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: Tylanner
what does "get over" mean?

as far as reparations, I agree that needs to end someday.
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get over means:

stop asking for reperations
stop wasting government time making stupid legislation like the one discussed in the article... voting on whether or not the government of virginia should apologize to black people on behalf of white people. that's bullshit.

several other points, but that's a start...
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A bill like this is not uncommon. The state of North Dakota or Utah or wherever the hell the guys who wrote Napoleon Dynamite are from passed a bill recognizing their accomplishment. It happens all the time. I don't think it bothers you that they're wasting time, I think it bothers you that they're apologizing to black people.

And they're not apologizing on behalf of white people, they're apologizing on behalf of the State of Virginia.

I bet some of the same people who complain about this would complain about Japan not apologizing for the atrocities they've committed, or Turkey not apologizing for the Armenian genocide.
 
Originally posted by: huberm
i don't think anyone should "get over" slavery. How could someone get over such a horrific event that killed/abused their forefathers? Should the native americans get over the fact that we nearly killed off the entire race?

We should always remember these atrocities and, hopefully by remembering them, we will never repeat the same mistakes in the future.


edit: however, if by "get over it" you mean stop demanding handouts, something for nothing, etc, I agree. I do think that african americans are still not treated equally in america though. I think it is really hard for a caucasian person to see this, but sadly many people in our country still judge people based on the color of their skin.
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i think they're treated better than equal, as far as job and economic incentives are concerned. as far as whether or not they pull themselves out of squalor, that's up to them and should be up to them.
 
this is a stupid topic...whether they 'get over it' or not depends on a person, not the community as a whole. And I dont know a single black person who still blames slavery, I know many that blame racism, but not slavery. So whats next, black people need to get over racism?
 
Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: illusion88
Just like the jews should "get over the holocaust"
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-1 for bringing up the Nazi's when it's not needed.

I don't see Jews sitting around lazily asking for free government handouts.
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I think there is a misconception that black people ask for handouts because of slavery.. Part of the problem resides in the lies that their leaders feed them on a constant basis, while the second part has nothing to do with slavery- Blacks were persecuted as soon as reconstruction ended in the South.. 40 years ago segregation was still the law of the land. So their problems aren't a direct result of slavery several generations ago, they stretch out to modern day times where their schools and community leadership are far below normal standards in America.
 
As far as "getting over" slavery because it ended over 100 years ago - some people are really clueless about life outside of their little bubble. Slavery may have ended in 1865, but laws and government policies that were harmful to black people persisted for more than 100 years after that. And racism still persists today. Do they deserve reparations? No way. Is an apology warranted? Yeah, I think so. Is it a sad reflection on our country that so many people are vehemently against that apology? Hell yes. 🙁

Some of us don't know how lucky we are to have not been born black. Yes, you control your own destiny, but it's much easier to move up in life when the deck isn't stacked against you from the get-go. I'm glad I'm not black.
 
Yeah, and I wonder how many of our African-descended friends wish that rednecks would get over the civil war, and the fact that people that aren't white are equal to them in every way??

I'm sure once that happens, the ex-slavery sentiments will follow suit.
 
I think people should get over the issue of blaming their shortcomings on what are percieved as another's "entitlements".
 
Originally posted by: huberm
i don't think anyone should "get over" slavery. How could someone get over such a horrific event that killed/abused their forefathers? Should the native americans get over the fact that we nearly killed off the entire race?

We should always remember these atrocities and, hopefully by remembering them, we will never repeat the same mistakes in the future.


edit: however, if by "get over it" you mean stop demanding handouts, something for nothing, etc, I agree. I do think that african americans are still not treated equally in america though. I think it is really hard for a caucasian person to see this, but sadly many people in our country still judge people based on the color of their skin.
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You are right that they are not treated fairly. They have things like affirmative action and other such bullsh!t that works for them. They abuse our government and get away with it, and the rest of us allow it.

They either need to get with the program, or leave and go somewhere else. No this does not apply to all of them, but most.

As for the Jews "getting over" the holocaust, you must remember that there are Jews alive today who lived through it. It's still recent to them because they were there. Not easily forgotten. Slavery ended long ago. Nobody is alive today that lived through slavery. There are those who lived through racism and that still live through racism today, but blacks are not the only ones who are the target of racism. There are some really fvcked up racist blacks out there. That one guy who said that they need to kill all the whites.

Should Egypt apologize to the Jews for enslaving them at one point in history?

Should all of Germany apologize to the Jews for the holocaust? It's not all of their fault....not everyone believed in Hitler or what he was doing. So why should all of a state apologize to blacks for slavery? There were plenty of people who did not believe in it and didn't like it. Why should they apologize? Should the white people who helped the underground railroad apologize too?

It's not that we should forget history. We shouldn't ignore that these things happened. But why should anyone apologize for slavery who is alive today? I doubt there is anyone who was directly involved in it alive today.

I totally agree with the guy in the article. It's utter bullsh!t that a state should think hey we should apologize for slavery! It's not like the state instituted slavery. It just was the way things were. It seemed ok. The rest of the world was doing it, so why not us? So should our nation as a whole apologize? Well as a nation we abolished slavery when Lincoln was president. Many white people spilled their blood in a war brought about largely due to the dichotomy of the North and South over slavery. Should Virginia apologize to all of the white men who were killed in the Civil War who believed that slavery should be abolished?

The entire thought that the state should apologize is ridiculous to me.
 
Hard to get over the embodiment of racism (slavery) when you're reminded of it constantly in a country that you reside in.
 
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