Black on Black Violence. Cain vs. the Democrats

ProfJohn

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Seems the Democrats are really upset with Herman Cain since he is ruining their whole 'blacks must vote Democrat' mind set.

Now that Cain is doing very well in the Republican primaries certain Democrats are going nuts and claiming that people are only supporting Cain because they are racist. (If anyone understands that charge please explain it)

And here we have a Democrat Strategist (a black on at that) attacking Cain's recent blacks are "brainwashed" statement.

CORNELL BELCHER, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: What Herman Cain said was a racist, bigoted statement and it should treated like a racist and bigoted person who makes those racist and bigoted statements.

I get the feeling that if Cain continues to do good it will only get worse.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...ed_remark_was_a_racist_bigoted_statement.html
 

Doppel

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Geeze, with the flak he gets and guys like Cosby get is it any wonder white people stay the hell away from public statements about blacks that can, in any way shape or form at all, be construed as critical?
 

ProfJohn

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And here is that dumb ass Janeane Garofalo claiming:
"Herman Cain is probably well liked by some of the Republicans because it hides the racist elements of the Republican party. Conservative movement and tea party movement, one in the same.

"People like Karl Rove liked to keep the racism very covert. And so Herman Cain provides this great opportunity say you can say 'Look, this is not a racist, anti-immigrant, anti-female, anti-gay movement. Look we have a black man.'"


I wonder what Belcher had to say about her comment...
 

Matt1970

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And here is that dumb ass Janeane Garofalo claiming:
"Herman Cain is probably well liked by some of the Republicans because it hides the racist elements of the Republican party. Conservative movement and tea party movement, one in the same.

"People like Karl Rove liked to keep the racism very covert. And so Herman Cain provides this great opportunity say you can say 'Look, this is not a racist, anti-immigrant, anti-female, anti-gay movement. Look we have a black man.'"


I wonder what Belcher had to say about her comment...

LOL, she said that on Keith Olbermans show. If brains were gasoline, the two of them wouldn't have enough to power themselves half way around a Cheerio.
 

matt0611

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And here is that dumb ass Janeane Garofalo claiming:
"Herman Cain is probably well liked by some of the Republicans because it hides the racist elements of the Republican party. Conservative movement and tea party movement, one in the same.

"People like Karl Rove liked to keep the racism very covert. And so Herman Cain provides this great opportunity say you can say 'Look, this is not a racist, anti-immigrant, anti-female, anti-gay movement. Look we have a black man.'"


I wonder what Belcher had to say about her comment...

LOLOLOLOLOL people only like Herman Cain because they hate black people!

Garafololololol.....why does anyone listen to this hack?
She's looking fucking terrible these days too...train wreck actually, wow.
 
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Cain is simply irrelevant. If I were a black Republican I'd be embarrassed by him - calling him a lightweight would be a complement. I don't consider it racist for him to say that black Democrats are "brainwashed," but his prejudice toward Muslims is more than clear. He is a terrible candidate, like the rest of the GOP slate with the possible exception of Romney.
 

fskimospy

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I always like watching these threads, keep going guys! Tell us more about how the poor Republicans aren't racists, that it's been the DemonRATS all along!
 

her209

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Where's Cain's long form birth certificate? How do we know he was born in the US?

:D
 

Engineer

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Both his parents were born in the US. Obama's father was an African citizen.

That has nothing to do with what her209 posted.

(Note: I'm not subscribing that Cain is or is not eligible. Just commenting that it makes no difference whether one or both parents were US citizens. Place of birth, in this case, is what is important).
 

Rainsford

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I feel like any racial stuff about Herman Cain is coming from a very small minority of the left, and it's being blown out of proportion by certain conservatives to score some political points. It's basically the same thing that's happened with Obama only with the sides reversed.

Yes, some Democratic pundits (many known for being idiots in general) are saying some stupid things about Cain being black. And yes, some Republicans are clearly somewhat racist where Obama is concerned. Are these people in the majority? I don't think so. Is it in the interest of the other side to pretend like they are? Well, duh ;)
 

Rainsford

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And for what it's worth, my objection to Herman Cain is that he has very little qualification to be President of the United States. Maybe he could try dipping his toe into the political waters at a more appropriate level?
 

Matt1970

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So let me get this straight. We want to nominate a Black Republican to run against Obama so no matter what there will be a black man as President for other 4 years, and we are doing it because we are racist?

Makes sense to me.....
 

Craig234

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So let me get this straight. We want to nominate a Black Republican to run against Obama so no matter what there will be a black man as President for other 4 years, and we are doing it because we are racist?

Makes sense to me.....

So what you're saying is, the moon is made of cheese?

That makes no sense to me. In fact, straw men often make no sense to their author.
 

Budmantom

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Remember this is the party of Robert Byrd, you don't have to look very hard to start finding white sheets in this Democratic party.
 
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Remember this is the party of Robert Byrd, you don't have to look very hard to start finding white sheets in this Democratic party.

It really isn't the party of Robert Byrd. The Dixiecrat era was a long time ago - Byrd was in the Klan in the 1940s - and I'd argue that racism is far more prevalent in the modern Republican party than among Democrats. That being said, I do think many liberals perpetuate racism through lowered expectations of people of color - this variety of racism is well-intended but probably no less harmful (though it doesn't lead to black people being dragged behind trucks).
 

Jhhnn

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Remember this is the party of Robert Byrd, you don't have to look very hard to start finding white sheets in this Democratic party.

Shameful deflection. Byrd had the capacity to change. Strom never did- when his fellow Dems went against him, he switched parties, helped to mold modern Republicanism into what it is today.

Modern Republican leaders aren't really racist, although much of their base is, and are in denial about it. It's obvious in many of the comments on this forum. Tokenism serves the purposes of all involved, and Cain is an example of that. The notion that he'll ever receive his party's nomination is absurd. Approval polls and primaries are entirely different matters. Lots of potential Repub primary voters approve of Cain, but that's only within the concept of tokenism.

Besides that, the focus of Repub strategists wrt race have shifted. In the new formulation of Us vs Them, Brown is the new Black. It's not fried chicken & watermelon, but rather tortillas and green chili.

Browns are a much bigger & better group to hate, and it's not like anybody could insinuate that blacks were illegals.
 

Throckmorton

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Are you rightwingers this dense? It's a fact that a lot of white people said they supported Obama in polls because they didn't want to be seen as racist. Why wouldn't the same thing happen with Herman Cain?
 

ProfJohn

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It really isn't the party of Robert Byrd. The Dixiecrat era was a long time ago - Byrd was in the Klan in the 1940s - and I'd argue that racism is far more prevalent in the modern Republican party than among Democrats. That being said, I do think many liberals perpetuate racism through lowered expectations of people of color - this variety of racism is well-intended but probably no less harmful (though it doesn't lead to black people being dragged behind trucks).
I'd say they are even or lean towards the Democrats being racist.

You are forgetting places like West Virginia or Arkansas that are highly racist and highly democrat.

The 2008 Democrat primary produces polling data that showed how racist certain parts of the country are due to exit polling and the most racists parts of the country were also the most Democratic. (white racism) They asked primary voters was race a concern and the places where race was the biggest factor Hillary won big time.

The polling proved that white Democrats in West Va and Arkansas were highly prejudicial against blacks. And those two states are dominated by Democrats politically and have been for a century.

Let's also not forget that racism tends to be more prevalent among the lower income and lower educated and that group is also a strong Democratic group. Those dumb redneck hicks with their rebel flags tend to be Democrats.