Black men still present a bigger threat to black men.

[cybrsage]

Luckily, liberals have had power at times to actually improve things.

Too bad this is not true. Not the power part, but the improvement part. I look at every city where liberals have been in power for decades and I mostly see ruin and death.

 

[umbrella39]

Imagine if the KKK posted a reward for the two kids that set the 13 year old white boy on fire.

Hmmmm.

Imagine if you and others stop building inane strawmen all the time. Welcome back...

OP: Let us know when white on white crime, drug dealing, etc stops so you can have a point and not a diversion...

 

[peonyu]

The big deal is that a white guy killed a black one. That allows for outrage. Black on black violence is business as usual. Might as well try to make a sensation out of a rainy day.

This is a White guy ? If he is White then so is Obama.

 

[cybrsage]

This is a White guy ? If he is White then so is Obama.

Without him being white, the perpetually offended would not be able to whip up the needed hate.

 

[peonyu]

They're both of 'mixed race'. And Hispanic is widely considered part of 'caucasian'.

I see a lot of polls listing race as 'white, hispanic' or 'white, non-hispanic'.

Guess you better tell the black Dominicans and the 10s of millions of other Hispanics who just so happen to look like African people that they really are infact White people. And while you are at it make sure to tell the Native-American people who form a majority of the population of Peru, Central America and Bolivia that they are really White people.

 

[Jaskalas]

The big deal is that a white guy killed a black one.

That is not correct.

 

[thraashman]

This thread is great. It shows just how racist conservatives are in that they don't even know that their mindset is racist. They fail to realize what the actual reason for the outrage is. The more this Trayvon situation continues, the more you see conservatives try to attack minorities. The funny thing is that race had nothing to do with the controversy at first, the fact that a murderer wasn't even detained or arrested does.

I will never understand how conservatives find it so easy to care so little about anyone that's not white and to automatically think ill of anyone that is a minority.

 

[Jaskalas]

I will never understand how conservatives find it so easy to care so little about anyone that's not white and to automatically think ill of anyone that is a minority.

Never underestimate the bigotry of the Left against conservatives.

 

[thraashman]

Never underestimate the bigotry of the Left against conservatives.

We on the left only hate the beliefs and actions that hurt society. Only a very few on the left would hate the people. I respect any views that don't hurt others, even if I disagree with them. This prevalent view that left isn't showing outrage when the legal system prosecutes black on black is hypocritcal because we are showing outrage at a man not even being detained after a murder is part of what is showing a deep racism. It's racism because you're trying to equate the unequivalent simply because of a racial connection.

 

[WHAMPOM]

The death of that poor 17 year old kid is still a horrible tragedy but unfortunately the biggest threat of death and violence for a black kid is other black men.

Sad there is no uproar to correct this problem as you see now with the death of Trevor. But black men push drugs on young black adults, and kill other black young adults either due to hang violence or via stray bullets from drive bus.

And the drugs pushed by black dealers in predominantly African American neighborhoods ends up bringing to the future addicts a life of crime and addiction which also leads to premature deaths.

So keep in mind, this case of Trevors death makes the big headlines but every day there is a silent majority of victims just like trevor that never make the headlines who suffered such a fate by the hands of another black person.

People need to make a big stand against the day to day violence and drugs in African American neighborhoods.

Yes we ALL know how ALL that African American drug money finally ends up in African American pockets, right? Don't you mean colored on colored crime since Zimmerman's dad did the "Hispanic" claim? But don't you think it is more about how a belligerent bully can chase down a teen in a back alley and claim "NO FOUL under SYG" after shooting him for daring to fight back?

 

[WHAMPOM]

Never underestimate the bigotry of the Left against conservatives.

Intolerance of intolerance is the shits. Cannot just take'm out and shoot'em when just pointing out their failings makes'em cry like babies.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

That is not correct.

Then a black guy gets killed by someone who isn't black. Better?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Yes we ALL know how ALL that African American drug money finally ends up in African American pockets, right? Don't you mean colored on colored crime since Zimmerman's dad did the "Hispanic" claim? But don't you think it is more about how a belligerent bully can chase down a teen in a back alley and claim "NO FOUL under SYG" after shooting him for daring to fight back?

Hey that's great. That doesn't address the real problem in predominately black neighborhoods that he correctly characterizes. I have an idea. Since what happens in black neighborhoods can be said to affect commerce, tax people for not getting rid of drug dealers. That will fix everything. They would have to obey you then.

 

[crashtestdummy]

Sad there is no uproar to correct this problem as you see now with the death of Trevor.

There is. Watch violence interrupters. As for the drugs, you need to do one of two things:

1) Legalize the drugs, causing value of drug dealing to crash and let legitimate businesses take over production and distribution.
2) Pull the kids growing up in those neighborhoods out of poverty, so that they feel that they have better options in life.

Increasing enforcement or punishment of drug dealing will not improve anything as the life expectancy of a drug dealer is lower than that of someone on death row. Going to prison is in some ways an improvement in lifestyle (Levitt even argues it is economically the "right choice" for them). The result is that you'll never be able to punish someone severely enough to deter them.

 

[Siddhartha]

The death of that poor 17 year old kid is still a horrible tragedy but unfortunately the biggest threat of death and violence for a black kid is other black men.

Sad there is no uproar to correct this problem as you see now with the death of Trevor. But black men push drugs on young black adults, and kill other black young adults either due to hang violence or via stray bullets from drive bus.

And the drugs pushed by black dealers in predominantly African American neighborhoods ends up bringing to the future addicts a life of crime and addiction which also leads to premature deaths.

So keep in mind, this case of Trevors death makes the big headlines but every day there is a silent majority of victims just like trevor that never make the headlines who suffered such a fate by the hands of another black person.

People need to make a big stand against the day to day violence and drugs in African American neighborhoods.

Who are the people that are the biggest danger to black males and actually everyone?

The people who started the two Bush Wars and who are beating the war drums to get people killed in Iran.

The people who created the housing bubble that pushed the global economy to the verge of a 1930's type Depression. Let's include the people, who became neo-fiscal conservatives when their party lost the White House, that were pushing macroeconomic polices that would have pushed the world into a Depression

The people who set anti-drug laws that fuck people's lives by putting them in jail for long terms and created the economic environment that supports the armed warfare my city is experiencing.

The people who moved production jobs off shore.

The people who are pushing to cut education funding.

I have seen these people and they are not Black males.

 

[alkemyst]

The big deal is that a white guy killed a black one. That allows for outrage. Black on black violence is business as usual. Might as well try to make a sensation out of a rainy day.

he was spanish though...only now that seems qualified for 'white' in the media.

 

[Craig234]

Never underestimate the bigotry of the Left against conservatives.

95% of what's said about the left here is wrong or lies, I can't remember the other 5%.

You don't know the word 'bigotry'. I'm 'bigoted' against people starving, you'd say.

 

[HomerJS]

Just to point a circular firing squad I see the OP wasn't motivated enough to post this one month ago.

So where does your concern really lie HD??

 

[Stayfr0sty]

You can thank the creation of "gangster" rap for this.
2pac himself said it, "we got these kids thinking that they are evil"

 

[dennilfloss]

he was spanish though...only now that seems qualified for 'white' in the media.

Spanish is just a language and/or a nationality, not a race. People can be black, white, native Hispanic. Peru had a president who was of Japanese descent, an Asian Hispanic.

Hard to get more Spanish than this guy, for example, for he is "the personification and embodiment of the Spanish nation" and he's definitely caucasian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Carlos_I_of_Spain

 

[Doppel]

I actually don't think that the "white"-on-black nature of Treyvon Martin's death is what made it gain notoriety. It's the fact that someone who wasn't an officer of the law went out of their way to pursue and possibly pick a fight with a young male who was at the time completely unarmed and innocent, and then killed him with the protection of a new law that basically says he can't be prosecuted for starting the fight. The interracial nature of the alleged crime helps the case stand out, but it's not the reason it's now notorious.

I can't believe you actually believe this. This is 99% the fact it was a white guy who killed a black that has jacked the notoriety of this crime up such that the news is forcing it down our throats. Many have been killed under this new law, not until a black kid was gunned down mercilessly by a white racist (OMG!) did it hit national spotlight so strongly.

The greatest problem for black kids these days is that the MAJORITY of them are actually being raised without a father (around 70% born out of wedlock, and most of these couples don't stay together), something unique to that race, numbers far worse than asians, whites, latinos. It wreaks predictable havoc on their upbringing and sets them up for failure, which they then project to their kids--not directly of course, but by proxy, since they'll probably not be around for their kids, either. The family unit is completely broken in most black communities.

 

[JockoJohnson]

I can't believe you actually believe this. This is 99% the fact it was a white guy who killed a black that has jacked the notoriety of this crime up such that the news is forcing it down our throats. Many have been killed under this new law, not until a black kid was gunned down mercilessly by a white racist (OMG!) did it hit national spotlight so strongly.

The greatest problem for black kids these days is that the MAJORITY of them are actually being raised without a father (around 70% born out of wedlock, and most of these couples don't stay together), something unique to that race, numbers far worse than asians, whites, latinos. It wreaks predictable havoc on their upbringing and sets them up for failure, which they then project to their kids--not directly of course, but by proxy, since they'll probably not be around for their kids, either. The family unit is completely broken in most black communities.

Stop bringing facts to a racial discussion. The race baiters will not approve of your hate speech.

 

[Genx87]

Hey we are making some progress towards a colorless society. Liberals are now saying Hispanics are white.

 

[yllus]

I can't believe you actually believe this. This is 99% the fact it was a white guy who killed a black that has jacked the notoriety of this crime up such that the news is forcing it down our throats. Many have been killed under this new law, not until a black kid was gunned down mercilessly by a white racist (OMG!) did it hit national spotlight so strongly.

Then why was the title of the thread in these very forums this:

Unarmed black 17 year old shot by Neighborhood watch captain in gated community...

Instead of this?

White guy kills a black kid

Sure, the fact that the kid was black is a factor - even a big one - but the points that made the case notorious was originally because some Dudley Do-Right decided to take matters into his own hands, and is likely legally immune in the aftermath. I stand by my statement.

Edit: I'll add a couple more news article titles from the time span the case first made headlines to further prove the point that race was not initially the leading point of interest.

Family of Florida boy killed by Neighborhood Watch seeks arrest

Report: Unarmed teen fatally shot by neighborhood watch in gated Fla. community, parents want arrest

Teen Killed by Crime Watch Neighbor

No mention of race at all, yet they all received considerable attention.

 

[yllus]

You can thank the creation of "gangster" rap for this.
2pac himself said it, "we got these kids thinking that they are evil"

In related made up news, violent video games are turning teenagers into serial killers, and rock music has turned out legions of Satan worshippers.