Black man found decapitated after texting "being chased by white men in pickup trucks".

[BoomerD]

If the photo was post-coroner exam, it wasn't how it was found in the woods. I think you're confused on the timeline.

If you look at the cut, it doesn't show the same discoloration from being exposed to the elements as the rest of the skull...new cut.

 

[eelw]

If you look at the cut, it doesn't show the same discoloration from being exposed to the elements as the rest of the skull...new cut.

Ah good point. But as for the uneven cut, no way to secure just the skull when performing the cut vs it still attached to the body

 

[WelshBloke]

If you look at the cut, it doesn't show the same discoloration from being exposed to the elements as the rest of the skull...new cut.

I just wonder what sort of post mortem information you are going to get from the inside of a skull in that condition. Doesn't look like there was much soft tissue left.

 

[woolfe9998]

This is what I don't get. Finding Rasheed's remains in this condition should assume foul play and investigate until an explanation found.

I still want to know why no national media attention.

The story is getting national attention.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/03/14/rasheem-carter-mississippi-black-mysterious-death/

Mississippi man who went missing found with head severed, attorney says

The family of a Mississippi man, that was found dead and dismembered according to an autopsy, is calling for a federal investigation.

abcnews.go.com

https://www.npr.org/2023/03/14/1163446271/mississippi-rasheem-carter-death-doj

Family of black man found dismembered in Mississippi calls for probe

Before he disappeared, Rasheem Carter told his mother he was being chased by white men in trucks.

www.bbc.com

All of which came in the past day, so I'm assuming that press getting involved has something to do with Ben Crump.

So far as we're told, they are still investigating. It's just that they've said that the autopsy is inconclusive due to evidence of animal predation, which they cannot tell if that was pre or post mortem.

There is other evidence of foul play, the things he told his mother. Including a specific name he gave her. I can only assume this individual has been questioned. Not sure what is going on but the investigation remains active. Details of invetigations are released sparingly, especially when the police have a suspect in mind but insufficient evidence to arrest.

 

[woolfe9998]

I assumed the skull was found in that condition, I can't see why the family/lawyer would be showing photos of post-autopsy and examination.
Despite there being the very slim possibility of the body having been dismembered and scattered by animals (what animals? Bears? Raccoons surely aren't going to do this), you need to consider not only how the body was found, but where it was found.

I don't believe for one instant that he wandered into some local woods to kill himself. Possible? Sure. But when you look at all the currently available info (which is still scant), it becomes fairly obvious there was foul play, and this was indeed a homicide.

Again...the FBI needs to step in and stop the playing at ignorance by the local KKK with badges.

If the skull was found in that condition, how do they release a photograph of it, then claim the autopsy cannot determine if the cause of death was homicide? Even if the cops really are that racist and evil, I doubt they are stupid. They know that if the body was found that way, it couldn't have been anything but homicide, and they know that everyone else knows that too. The coroner knows it too, and would have concluded foul play immediately. The coroner here would have to be in on a really dumb conspiracy. Bear in mind the FBI and MBI have both assisted with this case.

Removing the skull cap is going to be done in every autopsy. It would be strange to see the skull in tact after an autopsy. The fact that it's uneven, I don't know. Not an expert on how coroners saw skulls.

 

[Pohemi]

So far as we're told, they are still investigating. It's just that they've said that the autopsy is inconclusive due to evidence of animal predation, which they cannot tell if that was pre or post mortem.
....
Not sure what is going on but the investigation remains active. Details of invetigations are released sparingly, especially when the police have a suspect in mind but insufficient evidence to arrest.

Right, but typically as the investigation is still ongoing, they'll release no details or determinations. If the evidence is still inconclusive, they wouldn't be making statements about, "no foul play suspected."

That's what's bothering me, the presumptive and premature statements being given by the local LEOs, because at face value it's completely bullshit.

 

[woolfe9998]

Right, but typically as the investigation is still ongoing, they'll release no details or determinations. If the evidence is still inconclusive, they wouldn't be making statements about, "no foul play suspected."

That's what's bothering me, the presumptive and premature statements being given by the local LEOs, because at face value it's completely bullshit.

Yes, it does seem strange. They might have just said the autopsy results are inconclusive. Maybe they know something about the case that they haven't revealed.

The missing teeth seems difficult to explain without foul play. I can see the severed head and moving of the spinal cord elsewhere maybe being animal predation plus decomp but I don't see the teeth being knocked out that way.

The jawbone and lower teeth are missing from that skull. Not sure if that means it was found separate from the rest of the skull, not found at all, or removed by the coroner.

Bottom line here is the fact he texted his mother beforehand saying he was being chased by a bunch of white men and feared for his life, then turns up somewhere in pieces, makes this a compelling case for homicide. It would be quite a coincidence if he sent those texts then just happened to die in some other manner.

Bear in mind, however, that the police might not be able to find the killers, even if they do their best investigative work. It's always going to complicate a murder case when the body is found months later and has been ravaged by predation. Even Crump's "independent autopsy," while concluding the the death was a homicide, could not provide a more specific cause of death (i.e. blunt force, stabbing, shooting etc.) When a corpse is in that condition, the chances of solving the crime go way down.

 

[HomerJS]

If the photo was post-coroner exam, it wasn't how it was found in the woods. I think you're confused on the timeline.

Got it

 

[HomerJS]

Yes, it does seem strange. They might have just said the autopsy results are inconclusive. Maybe they know something about the case that they haven't revealed.

The missing teeth seems difficult to explain without foul play. I can see the severed head and moving of the spinal cord elsewhere maybe being animal predation plus decomp but I don't see the teeth being knocked out that way.

The jawbone and lower teeth are missing from that skull. Not sure if that means it was found separate from the rest of the skull, not found at all, or removed by the coroner.

Bottom line here is the fact he texted his mother beforehand saying he was being chased by a bunch of white men and feared for his life, then turns up somewhere in pieces, makes this a compelling case for homicide. It would be quite a coincidence if he sent those texts then just happened to die in some other manner.

Bear in mind, however, that the police might not be able to find the killers, even if they do their best investigative work. It's always going to complicate a murder case when the body is found months later and has been ravaged by predation. Even Crump's "independent autopsy," while concluding the the death was a homicide, could not provide a more specific cause of death (i.e. blunt force, stabbing, shooting etc.) When a corpse is in that condition, the chances of solving the crime go way down.

Unless like in the Ahmed Arbury case the suspects are known to law enforcement and they don't want to pursue.

 

[soundforbjt]

Obviously he tripped and self decapitated himself. Duh.

Mississippi investigators;

“Worst case of suicide I’ve ever seen...”

 

[HomerJS]

Google the following movies

Mississippi Burning
Ghosts of Mississippi

It doesn't end well for people like me and white people that got too close.

 

[interchange]

Yes, it does seem strange. They might have just said the autopsy results are inconclusive. Maybe they know something about the case that they haven't revealed.

The missing teeth seems difficult to explain without foul play. I can see the severed head and moving of the spinal cord elsewhere maybe being animal predation plus decomp but I don't see the teeth being knocked out that way.

The jawbone and lower teeth are missing from that skull. Not sure if that means it was found separate from the rest of the skull, not found at all, or removed by the coroner.

Bottom line here is the fact he texted his mother beforehand saying he was being chased by a bunch of white men and feared for his life, then turns up somewhere in pieces, makes this a compelling case for homicide. It would be quite a coincidence if he sent those texts then just happened to die in some other manner.

Bear in mind, however, that the police might not be able to find the killers, even if they do their best investigative work. It's always going to complicate a murder case when the body is found months later and has been ravaged by predation. Even Crump's "independent autopsy," while concluding the the death was a homicide, could not provide a more specific cause of death (i.e. blunt force, stabbing, shooting etc.) When a corpse is in that condition, the chances of solving the crime go way down.

Yeah. After a month in the woods unfortunately they may end up with no physical evidence that helps them in this case. That part is sad but it doesn't justify the police's communication here. I'd also say that the text messages themselves are pretty compelling evidence of foul play.

 

[soulcougher73]

Don't worry, Mississippi's best are on it...........

 

[Jaskalas]

I mean a basic investigation looking for witnesses of him being followed and a look for any local CCTV would seem prudent at the least.

I wish the FBI / DOJ luck in taking down that police department. That might be the easy part. Finding the killers after the evidence has been ignored.....

 

[Meghan54]

The reason I wasn't sure about that was due to the break line of the cap. Would a coroner's saw line not be more even and straight? Unless the coroner was drunk or just being sloppy...that looked more to me like an uneven break than a cut. I'm obviously not a coroner or pathologist though.

They don’t cut the skull cap like you’d cut a log. Instead they use a bone saw that resembles a cast saw and cut around the skull, which can very easily end up unevenly cut.

 

[nOOky]

The comments from the article the OP posted are hilarious. Plenty of defense of whatever happened seems to somehow be the black guy's fault. And according to those he was a prior criminal that had it coming anyway, but nowhere does the article say that. Fucking white assholes.

 

[Pohemi]

They don’t cut the skull cap like you’d cut a log. Instead they use a bone saw that resembles a cast saw and cut around the skull, which can very easily end up unevenly cut.

Yeah I had a basic visualization of the small rotary bone saw they use, so I didn't expect a straight, even line all the way across and through, it just seemed more jaggies than I would have expected. Again though...it's not like I've done autopsies so it's all assumptions on my end.

 

[sportage]

There "is" time travel.
I went to bed last night and woke up today in the 1950's.
Think I'll run out and buy some ATT stock, and then maybe invent Facebook.

 

[MrSquished]

I think the majority of white police people in the shithole deep south are pretty fucking racist

 

[Meghan54]

Yeah I had a basic visualization of the small rotary bone saw they use, so I didn't expect a straight, even line all the way across and through, it just seemed more jaggies than I would have expected. Again though...it's not like I've done autopsies so it's all assumptions on my end.

I’ve attended 4, courtesy of the army. Also watched 2open heart surgeries, 1 brain aneurysm clipping, several deliveries (babies), many cardiac catheterizations (hint: if you survive the cardiac cath, you’ll probably survive the CABG (cardiac bypass graft surgery—what people typically envision as open heart surgery.) Amongst other things…

 

[woolfe9998]

Unless like in the Ahmed Arbury case the suspects are known to law enforcement and they don't want to pursue.

You think the coroner is in on it then? The problem is there are a lot of people involved here, including both the FBI and the MBI. It's not just local cops.

 

[zinfamous]

I just wonder what sort of post mortem information you are going to get from the inside of a skull in that condition.

It being Mississippi, and after consulting the only medical textbook still allowed in that state, they wanted to fill the brain cavity with marbles in order to determine the race of the skull.

 

[HomerJS]

You think the coroner is in on it then? The problem is there are a lot of people involved here, including both the FBI and the MBI. It's not just local cops.

Didn’t say the FBI was in on it but how could anyone conclude finding a body in pieces with a separated head shows no evidence of foul play?

I would submit to you a dismembered body alone is evidence

 

[MrSquished]

I would wager some Mississippi police were involved in the killing. And I would have decent odds.

 

[woolfe9998]

Didn’t say the FBI was in on it but how could anyone conclude finding a body in pieces with a separated head shows no evidence of foul play?

I would submit to you a dismembered body alone is evidence

I'd like to see the coroner's report on this. "No evidence of foul play" seems a bad choice of words if what the report says is that "cause of death is inconclusive." I'd like to see both the county ME's report and the other ME commissioned by Crump. I have a feeling we will find little difference in the physical findings. But one is looking at all known evidence, including evidence outside the body itself, while the other is only looking at the body. That's my bet as to what will be in them.

I can't really comment on it much more without a deeper dive into the evidence.