Black and Decker vs. Dremel

SpookyMark

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I know that this question may not belong here but I do not know where to go with this question.
Here is what I am looking for, which is better Black and Decker RTX4 ( rotary tool ) or Dremel?
Dremel is $100 but the Black and Decker @ Home Depot ( CA ) is for $ 40.00

Thanx
Mark
 

Kelvrick

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Hmm... You're getting hte fixed up dremel, aren't you?

From what I know, the Black and decker has lower RPMS. It will still serve as a cutting tool, but I personally don't like how it grinds and stuff. It was like 40 bucks at the Home Depot in Huntington Beach. I got the Dremel for 60 that had like 24 accessories or something. That was all I needed. That, plus I grabbed some reinforced cut-off wheels.

I think I woulda grabbed the RTX4 if they had any more in stock to save the 20 bucks.

The $100 dremel better come with a TON of accessories and I think you're talking about the one with the little handle thingy, right? Anyway, if the comparison was between those two, I, as a poor college student, would choose the RTX4.
 

tritium4ever

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As the owner of an RTX, my opinion would of course be biased... ;)

The RPM argument doesn't hold water, cause mine will do 5,000-30,000 RPM (6 speeds). The higher RPMs work great for metal cutting, though you better plan on buying extra reinforced cutoff disks. Sharpening an axe was a piece of cake with the grinder accessory and moderate RPMs.

Buy the Dremel if you need the extra accessories, but if you don't, save your money and get the RTX.
 

Kelvrick

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Sorry about the RPM thing. I wasn't quite sure about that.

I'd recommend the RTX4 also. Both will do the job well.
 

Sundog

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I now have gone through 2 dremels so next time I will be looking at something with a little morer power to it.
 

slimbim

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yeah get the black and decker. I got a dremel first, but it was so weak. so i returned it, and got the black and decker one, and it was cheaper too. more power, better sound, and better grip.
 

Sundog

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<< but it was so weak >>


I hear that....they do make an Industrial model that is huge. But I don't feel like paying $150 for just the motor and then exta for the extension.
 

GeekSupportCom

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so the B&D RTX-4 is better than a dremel?

Home > Online Store > Tools > Power Tools > Hobby Tools > Corded Hobby Tools

I'd post a link but they are via session id so it probably wont work after a few hours

how good are these for making blow holes (120mm)
 

SpookyMark

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OK
Well, looks to me like the $ 40 for the Black and Decker will be money well spend then if I was to spend $60-$90 for the Dremel.
I am just hoping that most of the connectors for the Dremel will work with the Black and Decker

Thank you all for the answers.
 

Packy

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I have a Dremel, and I can't remember at this moment if it has replacable brushes, but I believe it does. If the RTX does as well, then I'd say it just comes down to cost. If the RTX doesn't have replacable brushes, go with the Dremel. :)
 

ChefJoe

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I chose to get the RTX and spend the money I "saved" on a mess of re-enforced cut off wheels, some cheap drill bits, and a dremel non-keyless chuck (which fits the RTX and allows you to mount all sizes of drill bits in the thing). The only complaint I had about this was that the chuck only allows up to a 7/32" ? bit, but that was sufficient for my needs given a little widening at the end. Anyways, if you don't have a drill for a hole-saw then getting the dremel/RTX with the chuck and drill bits is a good idea because the more basic RTX doesn't ship with any attachments that would be good for cutting screw holes (I used the tiny round metal ball grinder that came with mine and killed it with one hole through a steel case).
 

Futga

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This may be a silly question, but do they sell extra attatchments similar to the dremel but for a regular drill like a craftsman?
 

GeekSupportCom

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Futga i'll top your question: what are re-enforced cut off wheels :eek:
found an image via google image search Here

are the Lian Li cases any easier to make blow holes with? Do i need any specific type of reinforced cut off wheel (pearl, Aluminum Oxide)? Which parts would I use to make two 120mm blow holes on the top of the Lian Li PC65? I might go with the rest of you and just get the cheaper Black & Decker and grab any extra parts. the only thing i see myself doing w/ this tool is just one, maybe two or three case mods and that's it.
 

flashbacck

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while we're on the subject of rotary tools, I have my own question.

How well do rotary tools drill? Because I was also thinking of getting a dremel or rtx to make some fan exhaust holes in the back. But I'd also need to drill holes for the grill and fans. Can a rotary tool do that?

thanks
 

slimbim

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I used black & decker to cut the window on the side panel of my case, and a blowhole on the window (acrylic) itself. Had no problems. Only thing is that the RTX i bought did not come with a good drill bit....but i still had my dremel, so I used the bit that came with dremel before i returned it.

And yes most of the bits that are for dremel will work with RTX.

 

ChefJoe

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I used this chuck from amazonamazon chuck to drill the screw holes with some cheap "no walk" drill bits. The only thing I was careful about was sticking the bit far enough back that it didn't have too much on the front side (basically, push it as far back in as you can while getting a good grip) and used two hands to keep it stable while piloting the bit (afterall, the way you're forced to hold it isn't exactly as good as a pistol grip drill).

Most re-enforced wheels have fiberglass weave in them. I did try the dremel diamond disk... worked real nice until it broke... wheels break... for a 120mm hole expect to use 6+ cutoff wheels.
 

grrl

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I bought a B&D (sorry don't know the model). I was initially concerned about the rpm difference too, but have used it to grind and cut with no problem. I did a lot of grinding to mod my case. For the price difference, I just couldn't believe the Dremel was that much better.

Also, shop around. There are a few different bundlings of these machines with different combinations of bits. You might even find a better deal on eBay, like I did.
 

MrDudeMan

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i hvae a cordless dremel pro, works fine for me! it wont cut cases too well, though

high rpms is good, thats all i know ;)
 

Marrkks

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I got a dremel, the 90deg attachment makes life much easier in many situations. but if you just have a nice flat surface you gotta whack a hole in, get the cheaper one and be done with it.

just my opinion.
 

Witchfinder

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I bought a Draper one (UK) , the main reason being that it`s Mains powered, I HATE rechargeable stuff as it`s always flat when you want it and often hasn`t the power .. the Draper has variable speed control and is excellent for cutting as well as engraving and grinding and usual dremel typr activities.. its a bit bulkier than the rechargers and IMO doesn`t go slow enough but has more power than any others I`ve used (the thing almost jumps out of your hand if switched on at full speed)