BitTorrent. does it work like Kazaa?

[InlineFive]

Just wondering because it says it distributes bandwidth. And it doesn't have Adware, spyware. etc.

-Por

 

[Fern]

Good ? Por, I wanna d/l the Far Cry demo, so I'm interested in this too

 

[Sid59]

tons of clients out there. choose what you want.

bit torrents closest relative is E-Donkey / E-Mule ... but torrent is much much much faster.

you download parts of a file and then you share it with people who need it.

 

[Nothinman]

It works nothing like Kazaa. For more details on how the protocol works look here: http://bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/protocol.html

Think about what the word torrent really means and it might make things a little more clear.

 

[Skyline622]

DAMN FINE TOOL Period

this is all I use now (BT)

I use bt++

 

[oLLie]

Maybe I'm not using it right, but I'm not getting any downloads faster than ~20 Kibibytes/Sec...
The torrents seemed to have a lot of uploaders too.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

20KBps isn't bad (rarely have I seen my download cap reached using bit torrent), bit torrent might not be the fastest solution but it is one of the most sure fire ones. Slow but sure and steady, it's definately a system where if you need a file (especially larger ones) you'll most likley get it, although it definately helps if you're able to leave your system on over night.

 

[suklee]

Ollie, are you behind a router? If you are, you should enable NAT ... forward ports 6881-6889 to your IP's machine and you should see significant increases in speed.

I love BT .. don't use Kazaa or Newsgroups no more. BTW I use Yet Another bitTorrent Client http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/

 

[oLLie]

Originally posted by: Kai920
Ollie, are you behind a router? If you are, you should enable NAT ... forward ports 6881-6889 to your IP's machine and you should see significant increases in speed.

I love BT .. don't use Kazaa or Newsgroups no more. BTW I use Yet Another bitTorrent Client http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/

I don't understand why doing port forwarding to my machine would yield speed increases. Almost all routers have built in switches with intelligent packet forwarding, don't they?

I will look into it though, thanks.


*edit* And when I said I've never seen it go above 20 KiB/s, I meant that it's usually always at 0-5 KiB/s. I made some changes to my router config, do I need to reset it, or should the changes just take?

*Update*: As usual AT>me, the changes seem to have improved things a lot. It has something where I can forward incoming traffic on certain ports to my internal IP address, but it only has this option for TCP or UDP traffic. I chose TCP, is that right?

 

[Nothinman]

20KBps isn't bad (rarely have I seen my download cap reached using bit torrent)

20KB/s is pretty bad, I routinely get > 100KB/s with Bittorrent, it's definately a fast protocol so if you're having speed issues it's soemthing with your setup.

I don't understand why doing port forwarding to my machine would yield speed increases

Because, IIRC, the other clients try to connect to you via ports 6881-6889 so you need to have them forwarded.

 

[ParatoOptimal]

I use burst! bitTorrent client.

BitTorrent is NOT a P2P client.
BitTorrent spreads info more like the old UseNet News posts......in pieces.
You can get a pieces from different sources and it will put them all together.

Most P2P clients allow you to choose IF you want to share or not.
BitTorrent MAKES each leacher a sharer as well.
It automatically shares the PORTION of any torrent you've already DL'd while you continue to DL the rest of the torrent.

BitTorrent is also very secure and, I believe, impossible to track who gave what to who.

Last Thursday's, 2-12-04, New York Times', "Circuits" section had an article on the original creator of BitTorrent.
There are numerous sources and FAQ's on the Net. Just type bittorrent into Google.

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: ParatoOptimal
I use burst! bitTorrent client.

BitTorrent is NOT a P2P client.
BitTorrent spreads info more like the old UseNet News posts......in pieces.
You can get a pieces from different sources and it will put them all together.

Most P2P clients allow you to choose IF you want to share or not.
BitTorrent MAKES each leacher a sharer as well.
It automatically shares the PORTION of any torrent you've already DL'd while you continue to DL the rest of the torrent.

BitTorrent is also very secure and, I believe, impossible to track who gave what to who.

Last Thursday's, 2-12-04, New York Times', "Circuits" section had an article on the original creator of BitTorrent.
There are numerous sources and FAQ's on the Net. Just type bittorrent into Google.

what does P2P stand for? Peer to Peer?

if you aren't connected to peers then how do you connect to download?

 

[Nothinman]

BitTorrent is also very secure and, I believe, impossible to track who gave what to who.

BitTorrent has no security, it uses SHA-1 hashes to make sure the chunks aren't corrupt but there's no protection. Everyone gave everyone else something so there's no need to track it, but BitTorrent does have a peice, called a tracker, that keeps track of who's connected and how much they've uploaded and downloaded and how many are seeds (i.e. they already have 100% of the file and are just uploading) and how many are peers without the whole file.

BitTorrent is NOT a P2P client.

If everyone connected is sharing the file equally with eachother, isn't that defintion of Peer to Peer?

 

[GigaCluster]

An obligatory link to a legal resource on BitTorrent: an Open Source Software CD.
As you see, you must know where a resource you want resides, then get a torrent file. Ony then can you start downloading.
The web server at the above location is configured to send the correct MIME-type for .torrent files, so your client -- if it installed correctly -- should begin downloading as soon as you click the Download link.

 

[Shagga]

Originally posted by: Kai920
Ollie, are you behind a router? If you are, you should enable NAT ... forward ports 6881-6889 to your IP's machine and you should see significant increases in speed.

I love BT .. don't use Kazaa or Newsgroups no more. BTW I use Yet Another bitTorrent Client http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/

Perhaps I shouldn't be asking this question but how do I "enable NAT ... forward ports 6881-6889 to my IP's machine"...

My downloads average about 10Kb a second but drops to 2 or 3...

Thanks

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: Shagga

Originally posted by: Kai920
Ollie, are you behind a router? If you are, you should enable NAT ... forward ports 6881-6889 to your IP's machine and you should see significant increases in speed.

I love BT .. don't use Kazaa or Newsgroups no more. BTW I use Yet Another bitTorrent Client http://pingpong-abc.sourceforge.net/

Perhaps I shouldn't be asking this question but how do I "enable NAT ... forward ports 6881-6889 to my IP's machine"...

My downloads average about 10Kb a second but drops to 2 or 3...

Thanks

just port forward those ports on your router?

do you know how? there's prolly documentation for support of your router. go there if and read.

what router do you have?

 

[replicator]

I gave this a try, and so far found that it is a pain in the ass.

I haven't been even able to find anything I want. These torrent websites remind me of the early http warez days where there are tons of popups and misleading links.

My first time trying to use it, so it may be that i don't know where to look, but so far it is not very convenient

 

[CigarJohnny]

It must be what sites you use to get your links. I would suggest you try a site like "http://suprnova.org" or "http://torrentz.com". Any link posted there shows how many seeds there are and how many are d/l'ing at the time. I never connect slower than 32KB once things get rolling and have pulled at over 1.6mb as a high. Generally my speeds range around 80KB - 90KB. I've pulled 3 different files at the same time and gotten over 80kb on each of them. I upload between 50KB and 60KB. Bit Torrent is the best thing I've ever stumbled on and can't believe it took so long for me to try. I also cannot believe how many people are unaware that it exists. I turn as many people as I can onto it every day.

-Johnny