No fake it looks like r9 380 and its rebranded 290x.
I was hoping 380 will not be rebrand...
I was hoping 380 will not be rebrand...
Sounds like an Italian dish
.Anyway...looking forward to 390X benchmarks...my hope(a best case scenario) would be that it's ahead of a Titan X and "only" costs 700-800$.
Then even GTX 980 interested people would think about that card...because if the 390X is faster than a Titan X...you could guarantee a stable 60 fps in current gen games at max/near max settings...something the Titan X fails to do. (While the average for most high end games is near 60 on the Titan X...it still fails to get that important 60 down right in a stable manner).
Furthermore that would mean that the 390 is more of a 980/Ti contestant and Nvidia would very likely not have a real answer for that until either Pascal or yet another Maxwell revision...
Worst case scenario the 390X only is somewhat on par or slightly worse than a Titan X but still has far better Vram due to HBM...and it will cost less..in which case it would still end up being a decent card.
AMD needs to go ahead and release some juicy benchmarks/lift NDAs.
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I'm 100% sure that says "390", unless this is the "R8 380." So, 3 possibilities:
- The reference PCB for just happens to be similar to Hawaii's
- The 390 is a rebranded 290X and there won't be a cut down Fiji, OR there will be a 395 and 395X
There's no way that says 380, and frankly I don't understand how you guys are not seeing that the bottom of the number is completely different from the top.
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For the same reason people get new flagships over older cf/sli setups with comparable performance - one card is better than two.
Sounds like an Italian dish
[OT] in italian "cazzaro" means a person who tells only bull****[/OT]
Im gonna laugh my ass off if R9 390 is a 290X rebrand.
Then I will cry some tears, then wonder what the hell 390X is. And what AMDs plans are.
Then I will cry some tears, then wonder what the hell 390X is. And what AMDs plans are.
If you do the math, and think about a dual 2048 GPU (dual R9 280X) at 1250MHz which is watercooled, you will end up with a 15% slower GPU than 295X2 which means it will beat the Titan X barely and beat 290X with a little more than what the leaked slide presented that we saw.
There was a leak that said 1250MHz on April 1st.
If you go with dual 2048 core GPU at 1050MHz like the first leaked showed, it will be 27% slower than 295X2 and maybe 5-10% slower than Titan X. Which also is a possibility.
What if 390 and 390X is simply rebranded 200 chips but with HBM?
There was a leak that said 1250MHz on April 1st.
If you go with dual 2048 core GPU at 1050MHz like the first leaked showed, it will be 27% slower than 295X2 and maybe 5-10% slower than Titan X. Which also is a possibility.
What if 390 and 390X is simply rebranded 200 chips but with HBM?
I get the impression that by the time you've rigged it to work well with HBM it isn't really a rebrand anymore
oh please do not start with the rubbish that fudzilla spouted. R9 390X is a single GPU monster. In fact I am sure fudzilla and other sites will be proven wrong. I am sure R9 3xx is an all out new GPU stack with GCN 2.0 (or GCN 1.3 whatever its called). Here is my prediction of how it will play out -
Bermuda XT - R9 390X - 4096 sp, 8 GB HBM, 4 shader engines (4 x 1024 = 4096 sp), 64 or 128 ROP, 520 - 550 sq mm
Fiji XT - R9 380X, 3072 sp, 4 GB HBM, 4 shader engines (4 x 768 = 3072 sp) , 64 ROP, 380 - 400 sq mm.
Trinidad XT - R9 370X , 1536 sp, 2 shader engines (2 x 768 = 1536) , 32 ROP, 2/4 GB GDRR5, 250 - 270 sq mm
Bermuda will double up as their Firepro flagship with 1/2 rate fp64 rate. For Radeon R9 390X it will be 1/8 rate. Fiji and Trinidad will be cost and power/area optimized with 1/16 fp64 rate.
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Would be possible if there are also R9 395 and 395X cards which are the large die 3500-4096 SP/256 TMU flagship series. However, it absolutely doesn't make sense that the top cards would be just R9 200 with HBM and that's because it would only get AMD to 980 performance at best. It also doesn't make sense why AMD wouldn't incorporate the massive improvements in colour fill-rate, pixel fill-rate and geometry performance of Tonga into their flagships. At the very least, we should expect Fiji to have all of the architectural improvements in Tonga. That's why it would not make sense for Fiji to be just a re-branded R9 290 series+HBM.
The 1250mhz clocks sounds like the site confused the GPU clock with the HBM memory clock speed. It's a lot more credible to believe that a 4096 SP 28nm chip would run at 1-1.05Ghz than 1.25Ghz.
I think the re-branding theory has made you too conservative about R9 300 series.
Look at this:
XFX R9 280 Black Edition
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014...issipation_3gb_video_card_review#.VSaSbpP1Isg
vs.
XFX R9 290X Black Edition
Besides different stickers on the cards, we cannot tell anything about them. Both have 8-pin and 6-pin connectors, their coolers and plastic shrouds are more or less identical, other than the repositioning of the heatpipes for right hand side heatsink. Their fans are also identical.
Yet, the bottom card is 56% faster. If during HD7950/7970 generation someone leaked that XFX R9 290X Black Edition card, you'd also say it's a 100% re-brand of Tahiti? You cannot judge a book by its cover like that.
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RX 3X0, where the X is clearly identical in the photos, and both clearly nines. The image shows an "R9 390". Whether the photo is fake is another story.
I get the impression that by the time you've rigged it to work well with HBM it isn't really a rebrand anymore
This. LOL
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CSI: AT
This week we try to figure out if it's an 8 or a 9 and whether the card exists at all!!
This week we try to figure out if it's an 8 or a 9 and whether the card exists at all!!
I think the performance numbers leaked are right. If that picture is for real, some AIBs must have the cards for quite a while now together with some beta drivers and that's how we got the numbers.
Add to that the fact that catalyst releases are going VERY slow, everything I've seen so far seems to back up the fact AMD is still working on the drivers.
Add to that the fact that catalyst releases are going VERY slow, everything I've seen so far seems to back up the fact AMD is still working on the drivers.
LOLCSI: AT
This week we try to figure out if it's an 8 or a 9 and whether the card exists at all!!
https://youtu.be/3uoM5kfZIQ0
R8 380 you say?
Whats more likely
R9 390
Or the new launch of a new line, the R8 series?
Not that it's impossible that an R8 series comes out -- but its definitely less likely than R9 390.
Whats more likely
R9 390
Or the new launch of a new line, the R8 series?
Not that it's impossible that an R8 series comes out -- but its definitely less likely than R9 390.
So, no architectural improvements since 2011? Not likely. They aren't going to spend the money on the latest most advanced memory a year ahrad of nVidia and then slap it on a 4 year old design.
Looks like R8 380.
Pretty obvious the "enhancement" of that image is fooked.
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