Biting the feed they hand you.

[Looney]

Originally posted by: HJD1

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
When you look at the Arab Jew thingi, you are looking at yourself. That is how we are. The question is, is it how we want to continue to be. The closer you are to the infection the more invisible it is.

Islam suggests heaven for the folks who blow themselves up for the cause. The Jew fights back because he knows this. Preemptive strikes are a necessity for Israel... A war of attrition is not in Israel's interest.

the only way to peace is a US Guarantee that any strike on Israel is one on the US... but, the terrorist issue will not stop even with that. Only will stop if we go after the support system in syria and elsewhere. It is the way of these folks and to a much lesser extent North Ireland... But, hate is hate... I agree the closer ya be the further away it seems to be.

That still wouldn't stop it. It doesn't take much to strap some explosive to your chest and walk into a crowd. The only way for peace is if either the Jews are dead, or the Palestinians are dead, or they each have their own state. But then again, how long would that peace last for? Do we really believe that once the Palestinians have their own land and government, they will forever live peacefully with Israel?

 

[Moonbeam]

The closer you are to the infection the more invisible it is.
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This too.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Crimson
Let see, if Israel stops retaliating.. what will happen? They will continue to be attacked.. Hmm.. okay, so they should just sit there and allow their citizens to be killed.. then peace will happen.. Yeah, I don't think so.. The palestinians have little interest in peace, they will not stop until Israel is exterminated. And if that happens, they will just kill eachother.. since thats what they have been doing for thousands of years.

Let see, if Palestinians stops retaliating.. what will happen? They will continue to be attacked.. Hmm.. okay, so they should just sit there and allow their citizens to be killed.. then peace will happen.. Yeah, I don't think so.. The Israelis have little interest in peace, they will not stop until Palestine is exterminated. And if that happens, they will just kill eachother.. since thats what they have been doing for thousands of years

sounds stupid both ways doesnt it

 

[Moonbeam]

sounds stupid both ways doesnt it
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Not if you're infected. I don't know if you know this but hatred is the most poisonous human emotion. It blocks the capacity to empathise that lies at the heart of human association. It turns the object of the hatred into just that - an object. It robs the hater of his or her fundamental human quality - humanity. In so doing, it opens the door to the most callous and depraved acts that one human being can commit against another.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
sounds stupid both ways doesnt it
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Not if you're infected. I don't know if you know this but hatred is the most poisonous human emotion. It blocks the capacity to empathise that lies at the heart of human association. It turns the object of the hatred into just that - an object. It robs the hater of his or her fundamental human quality - humanity. In so doing, it opens the door to the most callous and depraved acts that one human being can commit against another.

just sucks that there are extremists who basicly run both sides while the people want this to end peacefully, like according to a local news story here 67% of the isrealis want the execution of Hamas members to stop so that Abbas can be given a chance to do it his way and not Sharon's way.

 

[freakflag]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Crimson
Let see, if Israel stops retaliating.. what will happen? They will continue to be attacked.. Hmm.. okay, so they should just sit there and allow their citizens to be killed.. then peace will happen.. Yeah, I don't think so.. The palestinians have little interest in peace, they will not stop until Israel is exterminated. And if that happens, they will just kill eachother.. since thats what they have been doing for thousands of years.

Let see, if Palestinians stops retaliating.. what will happen? They will continue to be attacked.. Hmm.. okay, so they should just sit there and allow their citizens to be killed.. then peace will happen.. Yeah, I don't think so.. The Israelis have little interest in peace, they will not stop until Palestine is exterminated. And if that happens, they will just kill eachother.. since thats what they have been doing for thousands of years

sounds stupid both ways doesnt it

I don't really think that the Isrealis would send thier children loaded with explosives into crowded cafes if the Palestinians called it quits. Why the fvck can't they just live together? Is it really so awful?

 

[Phuz]

Originally posted by: freakflag

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Crimson
Let see, if Israel stops retaliating.. what will happen? They will continue to be attacked.. Hmm.. okay, so they should just sit there and allow their citizens to be killed.. then peace will happen.. Yeah, I don't think so.. The palestinians have little interest in peace, they will not stop until Israel is exterminated. And if that happens, they will just kill eachother.. since thats what they have been doing for thousands of years.

Let see, if Palestinians stops retaliating.. what will happen? They will continue to be attacked.. Hmm.. okay, so they should just sit there and allow their citizens to be killed.. then peace will happen.. Yeah, I don't think so.. The Israelis have little interest in peace, they will not stop until Palestine is exterminated. And if that happens, they will just kill eachother.. since thats what they have been doing for thousands of years

sounds stupid both ways doesnt it

I don't really think that the Isrealis would send thier children loaded with explosives into crowded cafes if the Palestinians called it quits. Why the fvck can't they just live together? Is it really so awful?

They don't need to. They have all the funding and weapons needed to do things 'traditionally'.

 

[freakflag]

Originally posted by: Phuz

Originally posted by: freakflag

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: Crimson
Let see, if Israel stops retaliating.. what will happen? They will continue to be attacked.. Hmm.. okay, so they should just sit there and allow their citizens to be killed.. then peace will happen.. Yeah, I don't think so.. The palestinians have little interest in peace, they will not stop until Israel is exterminated. And if that happens, they will just kill eachother.. since thats what they have been doing for thousands of years.

Let see, if Palestinians stops retaliating.. what will happen? They will continue to be attacked.. Hmm.. okay, so they should just sit there and allow their citizens to be killed.. then peace will happen.. Yeah, I don't think so.. The Israelis have little interest in peace, they will not stop until Palestine is exterminated. And if that happens, they will just kill eachother.. since thats what they have been doing for thousands of years

sounds stupid both ways doesnt it

Give me a break. Do you really think that if the Palestinians agreed to stop the terrorists tactics completely, and live side by side with the Isrealis in a fully representative government that the Isrealis would still continue the attacks?

I don't really think that the Isrealis would send thier children loaded with explosives into crowded cafes if the Palestinians called it quits. Why the fvck can't they just live together? Is it really so awful?

They don't need to. They have all the funding and weapons needed to do things 'traditionally'.

Give me a break. Are you saying that if the Palestinians agreed to stop the terrorist tactics completely and live side by side with the Isrealis in a fully representative government, that the Isrealis would continue to attack them?

 

[Phuz]

No. My reply address this point only:

I don't really think that the Isrealis would send thier children loaded with explosives into crowded cafes if the Palestinians called it quits

To which I said:

They don't need to. They have all the funding and weapons needed to do things 'traditionally'.

 

[freakflag]

Originally posted by: Phuz
No. My reply address this point only:

I don't really think that the Isrealis would send thier children loaded with explosives into crowded cafes if the Palestinians called it quits

To which I said:

They don't need to. They have all the funding and weapons needed to do things 'traditionally'.

Yeah, Dude, but you took that totally out of context in order to bash the Israelis. You're entitled to your opinion, but don't twist my words to further an agenda.

 

[Phuz]

First of all, there no 'agenda' here. This is called a discussion.

Secondly, nobody 'twisted' your words. My response was cut and dry.

Please, make sense.

 

[freakflag]

Originally posted by: Phuz
First of all, there no 'agenda' here. This is called a discussion.

Secondly, nobody 'twisted' your words. My response was cut and dry.

Please, make sense.

I was not refering to the method by which an attack would be carried out, but rather, the intended subject of my post was that I do not believe unprovoked attacks would be forthcoming from the Isrealis, should the Palestinians agree to a cease-fire.
Perhaps your agenda prevented you from reading and responding to the post in it's entirity.
Does it make sense to you now, genius?

 

[Zrom999]

Originally posted by: freakflag

Originally posted by: Phuz
First of all, there no 'agenda' here. This is called a discussion.

Secondly, nobody 'twisted' your words. My response was cut and dry.

Please, make sense.

I was not refering to the method by which an attack would be carried out, but rather, the intended subject of my post was that I do not believe unprovoked attacks would be forthcoming from the Isrealis, should the Palestinians agree to a cease-fire.
Perhaps your agenda prevented you from reading and responding to the post in it's entirity.
Does it make sense to you now, genius?

Do a little research on the Israeli wars, you would find Israel the aggressor in almost all conflicts.

 

[freakflag]

Originally posted by: Zrom999

Originally posted by: freakflag

Originally posted by: Phuz
First of all, there no 'agenda' here. This is called a discussion.

Secondly, nobody 'twisted' your words. My response was cut and dry.

Please, make sense.

I was not refering to the method by which an attack would be carried out, but rather, the intended subject of my post was that I do not believe unprovoked attacks would be forthcoming from the Isrealis, should the Palestinians agree to a cease-fire.
Perhaps your agenda prevented you from reading and responding to the post in it's entirity.
Does it make sense to you now, genius?

Do a little research on the Israeli wars, you would find Israel the aggressor in almost all conflicts.

The one we're talking about, as well?
Or one that happened before most of the current population was even born?

 

[Phuz]

The one we're talking about, as well?
Or one that happened before most of the current population was even born?

Doesn't matter. The hate instilled both countries is centuries old. Its all they know.

 

[LunarRay]

Do a little research on the Israeli wars, you would find Israel the aggressor in almost all conflicts.
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The one we're talking about, as well?
Or one that happened before most of the current population was even born?



Maybe more aggressive but not the initiator of almost all conflicts. At least in this universe from '48 on, I'd wager.

 

[Zrom999]

Originally posted by: HJD1
Do a little research on the Israeli wars, you would find Israel the aggressor in almost all conflicts.
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The one we're talking about, as well?
Or one that happened before most of the current population was even born?



Maybe more aggressive but not the initiator of almost all conflicts. At least in this universe from '48 on, I'd wager.

Zionist terrorist instigated the war that created the Jewish state. Israel invaded Egypt during the Suez conflict, but you can argue that Egypt instigated. Look up the 6 Day war, Israel launched an unprovoked attack on the Egyptians. During the Yom kippur war Egypt reclaimed its territory. After the UN ordered the warring nations to cease fire, Israel ignored them, attacked an US ship observing the conflict, regrouped and attacked the enemy that stopped advancing under UN demands.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Zrom999

Originally posted by: HJD1
Do a little research on the Israeli wars, you would find Israel the aggressor in almost all conflicts.
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The one we're talking about, as well?
Or one that happened before most of the current population was even born?



Maybe more aggressive but not the initiator of almost all conflicts. At least in this universe from '48 on, I'd wager.

Zionist terrorist instigated the war that created the Jewish state. Israel invaded Egypt during the Suez conflict, but you can argue that Egypt instigated. Look up the 6 Day war, Israel launched an unprovoked attack on the Egyptians. During the Yom kippur war Egypt reclaimed its territory. After the UN ordered the warring nations to cease fire, Israel ignored them, attacked an US ship observing the conflict, regrouped and attacked the enemy that stopped advancing under UN demands.

Well if you mean that all Israeli conflicts are not individual but continuations from the pre Israeli state.. Ok.