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Denithor

Denithor

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I really don't want to read a freaking blog, just say you're a gamer & get it over with.

For a gamer - second video card. i7 pushes dual GPU setups very nicely.

And a raid1 on an Intel X25-M? Are you nucking futs? That's just dumb. Plain and simple. SSDs don't die like normal hdds, they simply quit writing. You can still read the data just fine.
 
Dadofamunky

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On second thought, I think Denithor is right. For gaming, the second video card is mandatory. The second SSD is just throwing money away.
 
magreen

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Maybe the OP meant raid0. That would be a real option to speed things up, plus maybe include a good bit of data in the system partition.
 
aigomorla

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without a controller, the second SSD wont help.

Id go for the second video card, unless you can afford a dedicated controller for your SSD's.
 
nOOky

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I would also go with a second video card, or a faster primary card for now like the GTX285.
And I'm curious why not the i7 920? The Extreme Edition from what I've read doesn't show any significant performance advantage over the i920 when both chips are oc'd, certainly not a $700 difference anyway.
 
exar333

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The Extreme will net you a higher OC with more exotic cooling...that's valuable for some people.

The OP stated in his blog that he wants a cool-running machine...he will have to get used to his new heater as the GTX 260 and the i7 run hot. Just the facts there...no way around it. :)
 
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imported_wired247

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it seems the i7 chips do pretty well for higher resolutions and SLI / CF configs... why spend so much on the CPU and then neglect the GPU? 2x 260s would be the bare minimum for that rig if you ask me, preferably 2x 285's.

hope you already have a big monitor as well...
 
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Toadster

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Originally posted by: Denithor
I really don't want to read a freaking blog, just say you're a gamer & get it over with.

For a gamer - second video card. i7 pushes dual GPU setups very nicely.

And a raid1 on an Intel X25-M? Are you nucking futs? That's just dumb. Plain and simple. SSDs don't die like normal hdds, they simply quit writing. You can still read the data just fine.
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who said RAID1? I was thinking of striping the drives... it would pretty much bury the SATA bus :)
 
daw123

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Ditch the 965. Wait for a 920 (D0 stepping) or a bit longer for the 950 and overclock.

Spend the savings on a better GPU set-up (perhaps the 2x GTX285s mentioned previously).

I would also go for Raptors rather than the SDDs.
 
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Toadster

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Originally posted by: daw123
Ditch the 965. Wait for a 920 (D0 stepping) or a bit longer for the 950 and overclock.

Spend the savings on a better GPU set-up (perhaps the 2x GTX285s mentioned previously).

I would also go for Raptors rather than the SDDs.
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ditch the 965? LOL - already purchased sorry!
I don't see a huge need to goto the 285's since I'm pretty happy with 1920x1200 resolution at this point, I'm not seeing myself going bigger than a 24" monitor anytime soon.

why the raptors? I've used the SSD's before, dead silent and rocket fast!
 
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Flipped Gazelle

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Originally posted by: Toadster
Originally posted by: daw123
Ditch the 965. Wait for a 920 (D0 stepping) or a bit longer for the 950 and overclock.

Spend the savings on a better GPU set-up (perhaps the 2x GTX285s mentioned previously).

I would also go for Raptors rather than the SDDs.
Click to expand...

ditch the 965? LOL - already purchased sorry!
I don't see a huge need to goto the 285's since I'm pretty happy with 1920x1200 resolution at this point, I'm not seeing myself going bigger than a 24" monitor anytime soon.

why the raptors? I've used the SSD's before, dead silent and rocket fast!
Click to expand...

Because SSD performance degrades over time, and have a very limited lifetime, and have a poor price/performance ratio compared with HDD. But if none of that matters to you, then go for it!

Mmmmm, Intel propaganda, yummy!
 
daw123

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Originally posted by: Toadster
Originally posted by: daw123
Ditch the 965. Wait for a 920 (D0 stepping) or a bit longer for the 950 and overclock.

Spend the savings on a better GPU set-up (perhaps the 2x GTX285s mentioned previously).

I would also go for Raptors rather than the SDDs.
Click to expand...

ditch the 965? LOL - already purchased sorry!
I don't see a huge need to goto the 285's since I'm pretty happy with 1920x1200 resolution at this point, I'm not seeing myself going bigger than a 24" monitor anytime soon.

why the raptors? I've used the SSD's before, dead silent and rocket fast!
Click to expand...

Fair point. I was just saying that improvements could be made elsewhere (as recommended by others in this thread) for the same cost, assuming you didn't already have the 965, by improving the specs on other components such as the GPU, data storage.

So essentially you want recommendations for:
The GPU (from your post above you want to stick with the GTX260, but are unsure whether another would be advisable)
The SSD. I get the impression that you are definitely looking for a SSD, but are not sure which one to buy.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
aigomorla

aigomorla

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as i said you dont have a dedicated contoller, or do you?

If you dont, the second SSD wont matter jack.

i'll kill your IO speed with my controller + 5 raptors in raid 0. :T

get a dedicated controller, and then ugprade the second SSD in the future.

My 2 cents..
 
ilkhan

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less extreme, more GPU.
$1200 on a CPU, and you wont get a pair of GTX285s? Are you nuts? Get the 920 + H20 and sit pretty at 4.0Ghz and SLI.
 
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Toadster

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Originally posted by: ilkhan
less extreme, more GPU.
$1200 on a CPU, and you wont get a pair of GTX285s? Are you nuts? Get the 920 + H20 and sit pretty at 4.0Ghz and SLI.
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I guess I've learned over the years, that buying MHz ensures that you have a guaranteed level of performance, and you can go from there (if you like) - if you buy low, there's no promise to go higher.

At this point, I'm after more threads - nearly everything I'm throwing at my current quad setup is pretty good - but I have to disable some things before I can 'get my game on' - hopefully I'll be able to tune things better with the Core i7 with 2x the thread count :D
 
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Toadster

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Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: Toadster
Originally posted by: daw123
Ditch the 965. Wait for a 920 (D0 stepping) or a bit longer for the 950 and overclock.

Spend the savings on a better GPU set-up (perhaps the 2x GTX285s mentioned previously).

I would also go for Raptors rather than the SDDs.
Click to expand...

ditch the 965? LOL - already purchased sorry!
I don't see a huge need to goto the 285's since I'm pretty happy with 1920x1200 resolution at this point, I'm not seeing myself going bigger than a 24" monitor anytime soon.

why the raptors? I've used the SSD's before, dead silent and rocket fast!
Click to expand...

Because SSD performance degrades over time, and have a very limited lifetime, and have a poor price/performance ratio compared with HDD. But if none of that matters to you, then go for it!

Mmmmm, Intel propaganda, yummy!
Click to expand...

so what performance degrade have you seen in an SSD? I'm curious... I don't have to defrag anymore - so that's a huge benefit, my spindle (storage) drive continues to degrade - so I have to defrag it at least once a month - plus I'm planning on not having a swapfile to see if it's really needed anymore with the SSD.

yes, I know that these devices are either working or not - but this one is working ;)

I've lost many spindled drives in my day as well - drives are like car tires, the more you use them the more they wear! (SSD or spindle) - it's just physics
 
daw123

daw123

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Originally posted by: Toadster
Originally posted by: Flipped Gazelle
Originally posted by: Toadster
Originally posted by: daw123
Ditch the 965. Wait for a 920 (D0 stepping) or a bit longer for the 950 and overclock.

Spend the savings on a better GPU set-up (perhaps the 2x GTX285s mentioned previously).

I would also go for Raptors rather than the SDDs.
Click to expand...

ditch the 965? LOL - already purchased sorry!
I don't see a huge need to goto the 285's since I'm pretty happy with 1920x1200 resolution at this point, I'm not seeing myself going bigger than a 24" monitor anytime soon.

why the raptors? I've used the SSD's before, dead silent and rocket fast!
Click to expand...

Because SSD performance degrades over time, and have a very limited lifetime, and have a poor price/performance ratio compared with HDD. But if none of that matters to you, then go for it!

Mmmmm, Intel propaganda, yummy!
Click to expand...

so what performance degrade have you seen in an SSD? I'm curious... I don't have to defrag anymore - so that's a huge benefit, my spindle (storage) drive continues to degrade - so I have to defrag it at least once a month - plus I'm planning on not having a swapfile to see if it's really needed anymore with the SSD.

yes, I know that these devices are either working or not - but this one is working ;)

I've lost many spindled drives in my day as well - drives are like car tires, the more you use them the more they wear! (SSD or spindle) - it's just physics
Click to expand...

I'm tempted to buy another external TB HDD. I've got about 700GB of media on the external HDD I have at the moment (about 5 months old) and I would be so pissed off if I lost the data because the drive failed.

 
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