Bioshock Infinite - Excited or Not

[Qbah]

Metacritic score of 96 on PC with 40 reviews? :awe: 9.2 user score from 150 users? I wonder how many copies will sell...

 

[blackened23]

Metacritic score of 96 on PC with 40 reviews? :awe: 9.2 user score from 150 users? I wonder how many copies will sell...

Wow. If this is true this is the highest rated game in years. And i'm always the one taking metacritic as a grain of salt!

It's a great game. I *hope* it sells very well, very deserved.

 

[CPA]

Well, 30 minutes in and had my first CTD.

Using Ultra with a GTX660Ti. Have newest drivers. Up until then, things were pretty smooth.

2 small complaints: Invisible walls (why can't I jump into the ocean at the beginning?), and 2D textures for many of the plants (I know it's silly, but a game that is supposed to be graphically superb, these seem out of place).

 

[Qbah]

Wow. If this is true this is the highest rated game in years. And i'm always the one taking metacritic as a grain of salt!

It's a great game. I *hope* it sells very well, very deserved.

It's the 5th highest rated PC game on Metacritic ever right now. If you dismiss that weird baseball game, it's 4th, behind Half-Life 2, Orange Box and Half-Life :awe: Quite a feat!

 

[EDUSAN]

hl2, orange box and hl1?

damn valve...

 

[Olikan]

hl2, orange box and hl1?

damn valve...

now do you understand valve's worthship?

 

[Nintendesert]

now do you understand valve's worthship?

Yeah, 20 years ago.

 

[Kenmitch]

I'm on the fence with this one. I purchased my 7870 as I wanted to play Tomb Raider but not so sure about this one. Got my code yesterday but still trying to decide if I want to use it or just sell it to offset the cost of my 7870....Hmm I'm off the next two days!

 

[MetalMat]

I saw that review on metacritic. It should be said that most of the user reviews on metacritic consist of people that haven't even played the game, or are trolling. The fact that most "user reviews" are either a 10 (from shills) or zeros (trolls) is quite telling. I hardly pay attention to the user reviews anymore, a lot of them are just ridiculous. And then you have IGN "exclusive" reviews which are always a 9.5/10 without fail. HMM.

I don't know what to make of it. I tend to wait for reviews from reputable critics (ie not IGN) and go from there. Anyway, I don't think anyone will beat it in 7 hours.

Most game "journalism" is a joke

 

[EDUSAN]

now do you understand valve's worthship?

i know, im a valve fan myself, but i didnt know that the top 3 best scored games were 3 valve games

i wouldnt have placed hl2 as a top3 game actually... i would have done it with hl1 though

 

[Grooveriding]

Don't fence sit on this title. Out of everything I played last year, this game is GOTY and likely will be GOTY for this year. Such a great game!

 

[blackened23]

Most game "journalism" is a joke

True. I certainly don't take early exclusive reviews (ala IGN) at face value. However, the big issue is that user reviews on metacritic are a far bigger joke. Most of these people haven't played the games in question, and are simply shills are trolls posting 0 or 10 scores. You can find some good reviews buried in there, but most of them are non-objective stupidity.

There are some games which have avoided shills and trolls, but they seem to be a minority. However, again...most user reviews are nonsense. I was looking at the HoTS 0/10 user reviews and seeing tons of people that clearly had no understanding and had no intention of posting a reasonable objective review. Trolls.

 

[MetalMat]

True. However, the big issue is that user reviews on metacritic are a far bigger joke. Most of these people haven't played the games in question, and are simply shills are trolls posting 0 or 10 scores. You can find some good reviews buried in there, but most of them are non-objective stupidity.

If you can sift through the crap user reviews you can find very good ones that are more credible than many of the major sites. This whole "exclusive" review and embargo stuff just makes the whole game "journalism" industry a laughing stock.

 

[blackened23]

If you can sift through the crap user reviews you can find very good ones that are more credible than many of the major sites. This whole "exclusive" review and embargo stuff just makes the whole game "journalism" industry a laughing stock.

It's not a black and white issue. There are many fair and objective reviews out there, you can't judge everyone by the same criteria. While some should be taken as a grain of salt, there really are some excellent reviewers out there which will tell things as they are. Again...you can't judge everyone the same.

I find them on average to be far more objective than user reviews. Occasionally you can find a good user review - However, I can find maybe 1 out of 20 user reviews that are reasonable and objective. By far, most user reviews are outright stupidity or troll posts riddled with poor grammar. Of those user reviews that are reasonable, the majority of them haven't even played the game through fully and are posting based on first impressions. And some others give bad reviews based on nonsensical BS such as a lack of their favorite AA mode. Or FOV adjust-ability beyond 90.

This is why i've grown to absolutely despise nearly all user reviews on metacritic. The signal to noise ratio has tilted in favor of the idiot trolls. Basically, these days...you should take all the information as a whole and evaluate the credibility. And make your judgement from there.

 

[Aikouka]

True. I certainly don't take early exclusive reviews (ala IGN) at face value.

I'm not sure why you would ignore IGN's review simply because they may have paid to have early access to the game. I would assume that it's all about drumming up viewership at their website, and whether they gave the game a 95, 80, or a 65, they would have had views.

Personally, when I look at a review, I first look at the score and then the pros and cons. That gives me a good overview of what the user thought, and if I'm a little hesitant about something they said, I'll usually dig further into the review to see if I can understand where they're coming from. You may not agree with a review because you don't agree with where the reviewer is coming from. Ultimately, reviews are just opinions.

EDIT:

Out of curiosity, did anyone else have Windows complain about low performance with Aero when playing Bioshock? I also saw it with Tomb Raider, but I've never seen it while playing any other game... including Crysis 3. I ended up ignoring the warning, but I thought Aero was set to disable upon launching a full-screen graphics application?

 

[TheVrolok]

Looks like I'll be waiting until I build my new system in May for this one. A bit amusing actually, as I built my current system (Q6600/8800gt now a GTX 285) for a few games that were coming out at that time (Crysis, BioShock, and supposedly Alan Wake).

 

[Red Storm]

Not my cup of tea. More than likely never ever going to buy it, even for super cheap during Steam Sales.

 

[Dijeangenie]

I'm not sure why you would ignore IGN's review simply because they may have paid to have early access to the game. I would assume that it's all about drumming up viewership at their website, and whether they gave the game a 95, 80, or a 65, they would have had views.

Personally, when I look at a review, I first look at the score and then the pros and cons. That gives me a good overview of what the user thought, and if I'm a little hesitant about something they said, I'll usually dig further into the review to see if I can understand where they're coming from. You may not agree with a review because you don't agree with where the reviewer is coming from. Ultimately, reviews are just opinions.

The issue with exclusive reviews is that (and its happened before) the publisher can say something like "you can review our game but you must give it at least x/10" or you can't review it.

 

[Grooveriding]

EDIT:

Out of curiosity, did anyone else have Windows complain about low performance with Aero when playing Bioshock? I also saw it with Tomb Raider, but I've never seen it while playing any other game... including Crysis 3. I ended up ignoring the warning, but I thought Aero was set to disable upon launching a full-screen graphics application?

That happens to me with all sorts of games, across multiple reinstalls of Windows. There are usually some prime suspects for it though. Has not happened in Infinite for me, but has in WoW, Starcraft 2 and the original Crysis games.

 

[sze5003]

I'm not sure why you would ignore IGN's review simply because they may have paid to have early access to the game. I would assume that it's all about drumming up viewership at their website, and whether they gave the game a 95, 80, or a 65, they would have had views.

Personally, when I look at a review, I first look at the score and then the pros and cons. That gives me a good overview of what the user thought, and if I'm a little hesitant about something they said, I'll usually dig further into the review to see if I can understand where they're coming from. You may not agree with a review because you don't agree with where the reviewer is coming from. Ultimately, reviews are just opinions.

EDIT:

Out of curiosity, did anyone else have Windows complain about low performance with Aero when playing Bioshock? I also saw it with Tomb Raider, but I've never seen it while playing any other game... including Crysis 3. I ended up ignoring the warning, but I thought Aero was set to disable upon launching a full-screen graphics application?

I have win 8 but I got low memory errors maxing crisis 3. No aero but similar when launching full screen crisis 3. Changed to fxaa and highest settings it went away.

 

[JamesV]

Played for about 2 hours last night and was really drawn into the game. The long sequence until 'something happens' is so eye-candy filled, and has so much packed into it, that it really is quite amazing. Remember how awesome the simple tram ride in Half-Life was? Multiply that by 100 for the sheer wow factor.

However, I was feeling a little ill by the time I quit. Sometimes walking down a road, where buildings and their shadows will float up and down, in different directions from the 'solid non-moving' area you are on, was disconcerting. Add to that incredibly high bloom, and I'm hoping my issue was being tired and having too much scotch, and hoping it's not like Half Life 2 that makes me physically ill (something to do with the lighting).

Performance wise, I get little slowdowns, which seem to coincide with entering a new area with something going on, like a scripted event. Only lasts for a second, but otherwise on my 2600k/580/8GB system it runs flawlessly at nearly everything maxxed.

 

[sze5003]

Apparently it wants to update some stuff as soon as I launch steam. Making some lunch before getting back to work. Needs to hurry up ugh

 

[TheUnk]

Anyone know how to fix the mouse in this game?

It's really sensitive even when at it's lowest point, I have to lower my DPI a great deal to get it functional.

Then when I zoom in with any gun it cuts my mouse speed in half or something and is just too slow... I changed some stuff in XInput.ini but it doesn't seem to have an effect.

 

[sze5003]

I just lowered it all the way and its manageable for me. Also, playing on 1080 very high for me vs ultimate seems to have the same performance.

 

[Aikouka]

The issue with exclusive reviews is that (and its happened before) the publisher can say something like "you can review our game but you must give it at least x/10" or you can't review it.

That's possible, but I think it's unfair to just assume that any exclusive review was bought and paid for by the developer/publisher. One thing that I try to keep in mind is that if someone doesn't have any complaint about a game, then you may want to read another review. Normally, there's always at least something that you think could have been done better. Whether or not that something is a deal-breaker is the important point.

I have win 8 but I got low memory errors maxing crisis 3. No aero but similar when launching full screen crisis 3. Changed to fxaa and highest settings it went away.

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That happens to me with all sorts of games, across multiple reinstalls of Windows. There are usually some prime suspects for it though. Has not happened in Infinite for me, but has in WoW, Starcraft 2 and the original Crysis games.

I'm wondering if it's an issue with video memory. I'm guessing that Aero requires some video memory, and if the paltry 2GB on my GTX 680 is being used up, then there won't be enough resources. Is there a good tool for me to track video memory usage? I believe AMD has it in the Overdrive section of the Catalyst Control Center, but I don't recall there being an equivalent nVidia Control Panel section.