BIOS set to AHCI, but software not recognising it?

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  1. taltamir

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    oops, heh :)
     
  2. bramke

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    i want to install windows xp 64 again but in ahci cuz i hate everywindows build after windows xp the windows just stutter my games and give less fps
    havent tryed vista tho
    anyway when i boot from windows xp with sata drivers i get a bleu screen at hard disk reconizing?
    any idea's?
     
  3. taltamir

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    install windows 7
     
  4. bramke

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    i will try to install thru usb stick cause that seems to give better results
    but can u tell me wich driver to slipstream?
    my mother board is gigabyte ga-p55a-ud4 ver1
    and this is the selection of drivers
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  5. bramke

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    i checked at ide driver wich one the ide is using
    and it said intel 5 series /3400 series

    so i slipstreamed the intel 5 series/3400 series ahci driver into windows xp 64
    but when i use this slipstreamed disk
    at setup windows don't find any hard disk

    any help plz?
    i would like this windows on my ssd , i don't need all the services windows 7 provides wich lowers my fps in games in the end
     
  6. taltamir

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    ive tryed windows 7 but that stutters in games
    even tho i have high end hardware
    it's like windows 7 isn't designed for games
    and i have tryed windows 8 aswel wich is faster then windows 7
    and with this http://softwareguidesandtutorials.blogspot.be/
    same invoirement as windows 7
    in windows xp i get double fps
    i would like to know what driver i have to slipstream
     
  8. taltamir

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    Win7 doesn't stutter in games. Heck its faster then winXP (which is faster then vista).
     
  9. tweakboy

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    Ya he switched in the BIOS. But for some odd reason we dont know it put his OS as IDE... so there is the MSAHCI registry key you change to 0 ,, and now your using the OSes msahci driver,,, and it will detect your drive and install proper drivers........ also ya update bios to latest,,
     
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    Dont assume my friend, that I dont read the OP post I do my friend. please dont assume, man everyone is out to get me on this forum,,,, sh*T.l
     
  11. bramke

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    its not read some forums win xp is still fastest fps gamer with dx9

    its just unable to play new games because microsoft wants us to use windows 7
    probaly because they can hack it easyier !

    i do know some ppl claim the opposite with benchmark
    where there are other sites that ppl claim with benchmark tests xp is faster , idk what they did they probaly didnt install there motherboard drivers etc because thats so not treu if u just play one time a game on my system with xp u feel the difference instantly !!!
     
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    Read forums? I read professional reviews where benchmarks were given to PROVE that win7 is faster. And yes, even in DX9...
    Also, DX9 is no longer relevant. DX9 era games do not have the demanding graphics of modern DX10 and 11 games. Which, btw, look a LOT better than DX9.
    Also with a modern video card DX9 games have their FPS limited by your monitor. Its DX10+ games which are demanding enough for FPS to matter.
     
  13. bramke

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    dude i don't want to insult u , but u live in a lie

    http://www.overclock.net/t/1292746/windows-xp-vs-windows-7-vs-windows-8-gaming-performance

    and this is just one forum that states xp is better
     
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    no, thats one TEST, there is a difference.

    The vast majority of tests favor win7 over XP. the fact that you can find singular tests does not change that fact.

    Furthermore, the quality of this particular test is unknown. I have no idea who "tahayassen" and what he knows about proper testing.

    The size of the discrepancy suggests that he was doing something wrong.
     
  15. bramke

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    btw i solved my ahci driver problem , i tryed all of them of the gigabyte website none worked

    i contacted a friend whos russian and own a pc shop where i live

    i went to him and he made me a version of windows xp 64 with all possible sata /ahci drivers included
    and that disk works


    btw about windows 7 vs windows xp i don't speak about benchmark sites who do prove windows xp has more fps in games
    i speak about own expierence
    if you havent tryed windows xp on your system i suggest u remain silent because u have no idea what u talking about !!
     
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    1. Benchmarks > Placebo
    2. Of course I tried it myself. Windows 7 is faster.
     
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    I wonder why that is.....don't you? :confused:
     
  18. bramke

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    ..have u tryed xp x64 on your current hardware , and played any fps games?
    with settings in your grafic card all on performance?

    btw i don't think u read what i say???!

    xp is also faster in benchmarks

    http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/windows_7_gaming/page3.asp

    can u give me one site where it says windows 7 has better benchmark then xp?
     
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    XP x64 is actually windows server 2003, stripped down of some unnecessary features and given a fresh coat of paint. I had used it for several years (I tested vista but chose to stay with XP x64 until win7). XPx64 is very different than XP 32bit and came out quite some time later.
    I had used both XPs for a long time.

    I have not test them with my CURRENT hardware because I upgrade my hardware every few months and I switched to Win7 (after testing) quite some time ago (win7 is 3 years old!...).
    I did compare them with hardware I have had before. I hightly doubt that the figures I got with my C2Q are no longer applicable for my i7. Expecially since IIRC you are still using a Core2 yourself.

    I do read what you say, I just think you are wrong. Repeating yourself wouldn't change my opinion, giving me benchmarks would. (and please, something more reliable then "some guy in a forum" testing a single game)
     
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    plz click below on the (forum)and click next its not 1 game he test it's different games he test
    i can give u plenty other sites
    just type in google windows 7 vs windows xp gaming

    i happen to play several games including newly released natural selection 2
    just read there forum there are tons of ppl having stuttering in this game
    check in google , stuttering in natural selection 2
    they all have i5 or i7 proccecors
    and cards like me ati hd5870
    it's windows 7 causing the troubles and maybe directx
    i switched windows and i don't have it anymore + i have 170 fps
    i'm gonna make a video soon on youtube of it then ppl gonna believe me and probaly gonna switch
    windows xp is still master of NEW games
    i'm keeping dx9 for the time it's possible
    there is a dx10 version for windows xp but i don't use this version
    dude i would be happy if windows 7 was better but it isn't
    i realy would be happy because i realize there will come an end to windows xp
    and windows 8 is pretty fun with the plug and play options
    unless some hackers take over the updates for windows xp that would be a dream
     
  21. taltamir

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    And yet I have asked you to do so for the last 5 posts and every time you have not done so.

    I am very patient man but my patience is not infinite. You have been patronizing me for the last 10 posts because I disagree with your unfounded claim that goes against every professional benchmark I saw.

    Stop doing that and start discussing things in a civil manner or I am just going to put you on ignore.

    And please dear god stop butchering the english language. Is typing out "you" instead of "u" really so hard?
     
  22. bramke

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    it seems to me YOUR just here to troll
    ive shown you 2 sites already you shown me shit
    i think you already realize u have no legg to stand on you may ignore me idiot

    idiots who are so full of theirself in their own lies i can't learn anything from
    gl on stutter world nooooob!

    that i have to hear from someone by the look of his name isn't native american or englischman !
    always the same with certain person

    just out of boredom

    http://benchmark3d.com/black-ops-windows-7-vs-windows-xp-benchmark

    http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1007144-modern-gaming-windows-xp-or-windows-7/

    http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1608036

    http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/ind...ing-benchmarks-in-comparison-to-xp-and-vista/

    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2355703,00.asp

    http://blog.testfreaks.com/information/32bit-os-shoot-out-windows-xp-vs-vista-vs-7/ << good site

    http://tweakers.net/reviews/1236/3/prestaties-windows-7-vs-xp-en-vista-cinebench-r10.html

    http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1813796

    http://www.sevenforums.com/performa...-performance-under-win-7-compared-win-xp.html

    http://www.sk-gaming.com/forum/2-CounterStrike/2302510-Windows_XP_vs_7

    http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/windows_7_gaming_performance/page3.asp

    http://benchmark3d.com/stcc-the-game-2-windows-xp-vs-windows-7-benchmark

    http://www.techradar.com/news/softw...red-windows-7-vs-vista-vs-xp-615167?artc_pg=4

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Windows-XP-Windows-7-market-share-April-2014-Legacy-OS,14611.html

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkzpUIFvd0A

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN-lhlVGn3k&feature=related
     
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  23. taltamir

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    Asking you to prove your outrageous claims is trolling? That's it, patience over.
    Also, http://www.wikihow.com/Use-You're-and-Your

    You have shown me 1 forum post not 2 sites.

    Personal attacks are forbidden on this forum.

    So, you can tell by my name I am NOT a native english speaker and that upsets you?
    You mean you ARE a native speaker? I assumed you were not (like me)... Note I never criticized you on that (it is natural to make such errors) but on the most egregious of butchery of language. Using "U" instead of "you" is not a "mistake" someone makes due to being a non native speaker. It is a choice.

    http://benchmark3d.com/black-ops-windows-7-vs-windows-xp-benchmark
    - Broken link
    Did you just copy paste every result from google search assuming it will support your claim?


    http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1007144-modern-gaming-windows-xp-or-windows-7/
    -A forum thread where a guy ASKS which is faster and it contains NO BENCHMARKS only guys telling him their opinions.

    http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1608036
    -Steam forum, a guy took a screenshot as a "benchmark", he has no clue what he is doing.

    http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/ind...ing-benchmarks-in-comparison-to-xp-and-vista/
    -A forum post repeating info from a gamespot review. It shows win7 being faster than winXP in all 4 games tested.
    Did you just copy paste every result from google search assuming it will support your claim?


    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2355703,00.asp
    -Does not compare games
    Did you just copy paste every result from google search assuming it will support your claim?


    http://blog.testfreaks.com/information/32bit-os-shoot-out-windows-xp-vs-vista-vs-7/ << good site
    -Tested one single game (in 2010, so, older drivers, older hardware), in that one game 7 < Vista < XP in DX9. However as they pointed out, in that one single game performance was really high on all the OS so it doesn't matter (just like I had previously claimed, DX9 gaming is obsolete)

    http://tweakers.net/reviews/1236/3/prestaties-windows-7-vs-xp-en-vista-cinebench-r10.html
    -Does not compare games
    Did you just copy paste every result from google search assuming it will support your claim?

    http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1813796
    Another forum post. This seems to actually be a proper benchmark, shows Call of Duty: Black Ops DX9 results to be faster on XP... However, the FPS was obscenely high on all tests. Over 60 min FPS in all tests except one where it dropped a whopping 57 min FPS (average FPS was in the triple digits). As I said, with modern hardware DX9 is "fast enough" and DX10 looks a lot better

    http://www.sevenforums.com/performa...-performance-under-win-7-compared-win-xp.html
    - A guy in a forum asking "why does win7 have worse gaming performance".

    http://www.sk-gaming.com/forum/2-CounterStrike/2302510-Windows_XP_vs_7
    -A forum thread where a guy ASKS which is faster and it contains NO BENCHMARKS only guys telling him their opinions.

    http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/windows_7_gaming_performance/page3.asp
    - Early beta tests... Quote from that review "Windows 7 is still in the early beta stages, so we urge our readers to keep this in mind when looking at the numbers. Drivers are being updated pretty frequently, so there is a lot of room left for improvement between now and when Microsoft finally releases 7 down the road"

    http://benchmark3d.com/stcc-the-game-2-windows-xp-vs-windows-7-benchmark
    - Graph's have been deleted

    http://www.techradar.com/news/softw...red-windows-7-vs-vista-vs-xp-615167?artc_pg=4
    -This is actually a news article with no benchmarks that extols win7 as the best gaming OS.
    So once again you posted something that contradicts your point, as if you just copy pasted every link found in google and assumed it will support you.

    http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Windows-XP-Windows-7-market-share-April-2014-Legacy-OS,14611.html
    -News article discussing OS market share saying that XP has the biggest market share (maybe at the time, Win7 surpassed it some time ago)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkzpUIFvd0A
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qN-lhlVGn3k&feature=related
    - Youtube videos? really? talk about professional reviews. 11 and 15 minutes respectively that I am not spending. At a glance though the first video was supposed to show stutter (filmed the screen not a screen capture, ouch)... and got appropriately ripped in comments. And the second one according to comments has the issue of testing only 1024x768&#65279; res. (I am not going to waste 26 more minutes of my life on this. I already wasted too long on this)
     
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    Total ownage.
     
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    anyways , games stutter on windows 7/8
    on my system
    on windows xp they don't
    i have 200 fps in natural selection 2 (recently released)
    i think i'm one of the only one because most ppl have windows 7 !
    so if your a gamer and your smart you downgrade , if not don't do it
    i wont loose hours sleep because of that :).

    btw i think u might need a new os :D i could open all sites and all pictures :p
     
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