Biogenetic Hard Drives

Rilescat

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Good Day,

I once read about scientists attempting to use DNA strands to create an information stream that could be stored as a RAM memory for Hard Drive style usage. Basically realligning the 2 pairs (a,t & c,g) to duplicate 1's and 0's. Thus giving them the ability to store info directly in the DNA stream.

Has anyone read/heard anything about this lately?

Thanks

 

Sachmho

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Prediction: Science and technology is going to get very extreme in the following years... seems like the possibilities emerging for all kinds of applications are doing so many crazy things now... scary world out there, lol
 

Utterman

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Very interesting idea, but I wonder how fast data can be read or written compared to magnetic or solid state memory.
 

saftey

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HMM 01000010010010010 CONVERT TO HEXIDECIMAL NO WAIT HM MODIFY THIS AND HMM OH YAH HAHAHA THIS PART RIGHT HERE HAS TO DO WITH STRENTGH INHIBITERS HMM OKAY DONE COOL SUPERHUMAN THAT GETS COCKY AND MAKES COPYS OF HIMSELF AND KILLS HUMANITY.
 

Evadman

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Originally posted by: GoodRevrnd
does this mean your WD600BB could evolve into a WD1200JB? :p

OMG! I don't know why, but that made me LMAO! :)
 

PowerMacG5

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I was just reading the new Popular Science, and it actually has a whole article a few pages long about the possibility of using DNA as a processor. It talks about a few new developments, and what the limit is on silicon. They say a new silicon compound developed by INM, silicon germanium, is able to reach speeds above 100 GHz, but that is pretty much the limit on silicon. They also show possibility of moletronics, which are devices that use atoms to direct the electric charge, rather than traditional gates, and the "quantum computer" which uses electron spin to do calculation. The interesting thing on the quantum computer is that it has 3 possible outcomes for a binary system. In traditional binary, their is the possibility if 1 or zero, on and off respectively, you can only have a 1 or zero at any time. In the quantum computer their is the possibility of a 1 or zero or both, electron spins down, electron spins up, and the superposition respectively. The superposition allows the 1 and zero to exist simultaneously. This is interseting because with traditional bits, it requires 8 bits to produce any number between 0 and 255 at once. With the superposition of the electron, eight of these bits can represent all numbers between 0 and 255 simultaneously. This lets one qubit (the quantum bit) perform as 2 bits, 2 qubits as 4 bits, 4 qubits as 16 bits, etc... They actually have working quantum computers that use 7 qubits. This machine is capable of out-calculating todays fastest computers. To quote the magazine "Fred Chong, an associate professor of computer science at UC Davis, estimates that today's fastest computer would require billions of years to factor a 300-digit encryption key as it laboriousely tried one possibility after another; a quantum computer would crack the code in about 30 hours."

Think about the possibilities.
 

exp

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I have always been fascinated by the similarities between organisms and computers, especially with regards to data storage. But I think genetic storage would be very slow, even in comparison to even our older mechanical drives (FDD...*shudder*). Bacteria can synthesize new DNA at the rate of around 1,200 base-pairs per second at best. Eukaryotes (yeast and multicellular organisms) are even slower. Now I don't know much about the technical details of computers but I assume that they can write *much* faster than that.

I suppose we could develop an enhanced polymerase but how much more processive can it possibly get? The rate of DNA replication is the limiting factor in bacterial division so the selective pressure throughout life's history in favor of higher speeds has been tremendous. If billions of years of evolution haven't gotten much past 1 kbps it seems unlikely that we can improve upon it *that* much.

OTOH, the implications for integrating man and machine are intriguing. :) They always have been.
 

GoodRevrnd

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They've been developing carbon nanotubes for a while now to use for transistors.
 

saftey

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YOUR FKING INFEURIATING IM SO PISSED OFF IM GOING TO BLOW MY LOAD.

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tkim

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krazikid ..

thats some crazy stuff you dug up there. what month did that issue come out?
 

DRGrim

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Well, at least your citing your sources now.

BTW, three positions is ternary, not binary.
 

PowerMacG5

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I know that 3 positions are ternary, but this is not a ternary system. If you read the article you will see that it is binary. The only possible returns are 1 and 0, but quantum physics allows the 1 and 0 to exist simultaneously, creating a "virtual" third posibility.