Bin Laden

[spaceman]

why no video?
i have heard theories ranging from changing his identity cosmetically, to not wanting to give any clues to his location(this one is the most absurd imo).
Being the media darling that he is, why wouldnt he want to prove to the world he is still alive?

As an avg. joe Im leaning towards OBL being wormfood.
As far as the tapes, some other loon jihadi.

Before it is pointed out,yes i am aware the govt. knows far more than i do.I just think that the video to strictly audio is fishy.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Here is bin Laden in his new identity, after some surgery:

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Why on earth does he need to show himself? I think he MAY be dead, but you don't know. BTW, he was never much of a media hog compared to most leaders.

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: axiom
Bin Laden is someone the world actually needs alive. I'm not saying I agree with his means expressing your faith, but Bin Laden represents a side of faith that most people take for granted. You can say you are religious, but do you really practice all of your faith or do you pick and choose?

I'm not sure I understand this. Are you trying to say the Al Qaeda followers are not picking and choosing the pertinent points from their faith that they feel are applicable in declaring their jihad on the West? As you should be well aware, the path to seeking behavioural guidance from religion is open to a great deal of subjectivity, where one can determine what suits their needs in facing life and any crisis with which they are confronted. And then, due to the general ambiguous nature of of most holy writings, can form these writings to suit any purpose deemed fitting by applied interpretation.

In other words, Bin Hiding doesn't offer anything special to the Islamic faith other than his own violence-oriented interpretation, something that has been done by countless others already, and I fail to see why the world needs a man like this around.

 

[spaceman]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Why on earth does he need to show himself? I think he MAY be dead, but you don't know. BTW, he was never much of a media hog compared to most leaders.

what would inspire his merry band of idiots more than irrefutable proof he was alive?

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: ncircle
why no video?
i have heard theories ranging from changing his identity cosmetically, to not wanting to give any clues to his location(this one is the most absurd imo).
Being the media darling that he is, why wouldn't he want to prove to the world he is still alive?

As an avg. joe I'm leaning towards OBL being wormfood.
As far as the tapes, some other loon jihadi.

Before it is pointed out,yes i am aware the govt. knows far more than i do.I just think that the video to strictly audio is fishy.

I keep flashing back to what a full bird Colonel told me > a year ago, "I think we need to send in a team, kill him, & bury his body in the desert... That way we get rid of him, we don't look bad in the international community for assassinating him, and we don't create a martyr."

 

[Nitemare]

Because he is worm food now. His Ahole brethren are just trying to stir up trouble like always.

 

[KC5AV]

Originally posted by: axiom

Bin Laden's war is not targeted at people like me. Bin Laden's war is with people that seek to twist faith or lack thereof to suit their financial stakes. Bin Laden's war is with people that pretend to be faithful but constantly abuse their faith for financial or material reasons. God teaches us to love one another, not put our brothers and sisters in the poor house so we can have a house in the hills. Bin Laden says to fear only one, God. And I agree with him.

I hope you aren't so naive as to actually believe that. He wants western culture destroyed. He (or his followers) would rather cut your throat than pass you on the street.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: axiom
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Originally posted by: axiom
Bin Laden is someone the world actually needs alive. I'm not saying I agree with his means expressing your faith, but Bin Laden represents a side of faith that most people take for granted. You can say you are religious, but do you really practice all of your faith or do you pick and choose?

Bin Laden's war is not targeted at people like me. Bin Laden's war is with people that seek to twist faith or lack thereof to suit their financial stakes. Bin Laden's war is with people that pretend to be faithful but constantly abuse their faith for financial or material reasons. God teaches us to love one another, not put our brothers and sisters in the poor house so we can have a house in the hills. Bin Laden says to fear only one, God. And I agree with him.

I hate to say it, but in Bin Ladens eyes you are an infidel. Do you believe in his strict interpretation of Islam? No? Well his war is then directed at you. If Bin Laden is so righteous, then why did he not use his fortune to build schools (the non-terrorist variety) in Afghanistan? Why does he twist the Koran to influence poor, ignorant people to take on a jihad against Christian and Jewish people? He is no religious figure, and if you agree with him so mightily, your welcome to go over to afghanistan and try to find his body.

 

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: axiom
Bin Laden is someone the world actually needs alive. I'm not saying I agree with his means expressing your faith, but Bin Laden represents a side of faith that most people take for granted. You can say you are religious, but do you really practice all of your faith or do you pick and choose?

I see a much different outcome ahead of us. If the US Attacks Iraq there will be chaos in the middle east, but not what we would expect. We'd think that Israel would be attacked, but I think it would be different. The Saudi Monarchy will fall, the Ayhotollah's will perish in Iran and Bin Laden will try to form one larger nation. With Saddam out of the way, there will be little opposition for Al Qaeda to build more support.

Uhh....no

 

[911paramedic]

Originally posted by: axiom

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: axiom
Bin Laden is someone the world actually needs alive. I'm not saying I agree with his means expressing your faith, but Bin Laden represents a side of faith that most people take for granted. You can say you are religious, but do you really practice all of your faith or do you pick and choose?

I'm not sure I understand this. Are you trying to say the Al Qaeda followers are not picking and choosing the pertinent points from their faith that they feel are applicable in declaring their jihad on the West? As you should be well aware, the path to seeking behavioural guidance from religion is open to a great deal of subjectivity, where one can determine what suits their needs in facing life and any crisis with which they are confronted. And then, due to the general ambiguous nature of of most holy writings, can form these writings to suit any purpose deemed fitting by applied interpretation.

In other words, Bin Hiding doesn't offer anything special to the Islamic faith other than his own violence-oriented interpretation, something that has been done by countless others already, and I fail to see why the world needs a man like this around.

Bin Laden's war is not targeted at people like me. Bin Laden's war is with people that seek to twist faith or lack thereof to suit their financial stakes. Bin Laden's war is with people that pretend to be faithful but constantly abuse their faith for financial or material reasons. God teaches us to love one another, not put our brothers and sisters in the poor house so we can have a house in the hills. Bin Laden says to fear only one, God. And I agree with him.

Televangelists should be the #1 target then?

 

[EndGame]

Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Why on earth does he need to show himself? I think he MAY be dead, but you don't know. BTW, he was never much of a media hog compared to most leaders.

Perhaps not as much as a Bush or Putin, but then he's not actually a countries figurehead either. As for as media attention, look back to pre 9/11 and even the few months following, bin Laden released a video message on a nearly monthly basis for several years prior to Dec. 2001, since then, none except pre-taped ones. I know all the angles and have heard them, but, I tend to agree, with all his health problems and everything else, he either is "wormfood" or in very grave health IMHO.

Also, how simple would it be for another of his heirarchy to write the messages "as bin Laden" and pass them off..........simple!

 

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: axiom

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: axiom
Bin Laden is someone the world actually needs alive. I'm not saying I agree with his means expressing your faith, but Bin Laden represents a side of faith that most people take for granted. You can say you are religious, but do you really practice all of your faith or do you pick and choose?

I'm not sure I understand this. Are you trying to say the Al Qaeda followers are not picking and choosing the pertinent points from their faith that they feel are applicable in declaring their jihad on the West? As you should be well aware, the path to seeking behavioural guidance from religion is open to a great deal of subjectivity, where one can determine what suits their needs in facing life and any crisis with which they are confronted. And then, due to the general ambiguous nature of of most holy writings, can form these writings to suit any purpose deemed fitting by applied interpretation.

In other words, Bin Hiding doesn't offer anything special to the Islamic faith other than his own violence-oriented interpretation, something that has been done by countless others already, and I fail to see why the world needs a man like this around.

Bin Laden's war is not targeted at people like me. Bin Laden's war is with people that seek to twist faith or lack thereof to suit their financial stakes. Bin Laden's war is with people that pretend to be faithful but constantly abuse their faith for financial or material reasons. God teaches us to love one another, not put our brothers and sisters in the poor house so we can have a house in the hills. Bin Laden says to fear only one, God. And I agree with him.

You agree with him and he isn't targeting you?.... expect the FBI to be at your doorstep in about 30 minutes man...
Seriously, he is targeting....the U.S. and anyone that even deals with the U.S. at all. You included.