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Bills hire Doug Marrone. I for one am not happy.

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A 25-25 coach from Syracuse. At least the Bills are setting proper expectations.

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Thank god (in a way).

Marrone was always linked as an outside candidate, the expectation was yet another retread like Lovie, Wisenhunt, Reid, or one of the numerous other "old boys club" that got fired for a reason.

Lovie wasn't a bad choice, but he had some glaring flaws. He obviously had some demands that didn't go over well after his interview. Chip Kelly obviously had no interest in Buffalo.

Still, I would have preferred to see the Bills interview Bruce Arians or maybe Kyle Shannahan. But I like Marrone for the fact that it's a new face for a new "era" in the franchise. Hopefully it will be a winning era for once.

You can expect Nassib to be drafted by the Bills in April now by the way.
 
Marrone was the hottest candidate out there - interviews with Browns (twice) and Bills, and appointments with the Iggles and Chargers. Name was even batted around for the Chiefs spot. The fact that he took SU to a 25-25 record and two bowl wins should not be overlooked when you consider where SU was when he took over. Plus, he has NFL experience with the Jets and New Orleans, along with recommendations from Parcells and others. Teams were fighting for this guy.
 
"Hottest" candidates arguably were/are Andy Reid and Chip Kelly. Yeah, Marrone was on peoples' radars, but at the same time a lot of people are questioning how legitimate Marrone's resume is being a .500 coach in a ridiculously weak conference. (I'm not, but a lot of others are)

In other news, what do you think about Nassib being Buffalo's new QB? Cause you know it's going to happen now.
 
SunnyD said:
"Hottest" candidates arguably were/are Andy Reid and Chip Kelly. Yeah, Marrone was on peoples' radars, but at the same time a lot of people are questioning how legitimate Marrone's resume is being a .500 coach in a ridiculously weak conference. (I'm not, but a lot of others are)

In other news, what do you think about Nassib being Buffalo's new QB? Cause you know it's going to happen now.
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Some are saying that Browns' were ready to offer Marrone without Kelly's decision.

In fact, twitter is now saying Marrone to Bills' isn't finalized because another team is pushing for him.
 
Just a thought, while we wait to see if it's finalized,
but does anyone else think that records result in vastly overrated coaches and underrated coaches? People are judging the Syracuse coach by a 25-25 record - is that good or bad?

For example: Joe Gibbs (outstanding coach) - took 4 different Redskins teams to the Superbowl; 3 Superbowl rings.

Then, Joe Gibbs returns in the mid 2000's and goes 6-10, 10-6, 5-11, 9-7.

Or, on the other hand, (in my humble opinion, since this thread is about the Bills), Marv Levy. He took the Bills to 4 consecutive Superbowls & is credited with being a great coach, because of his record. But, if you look at the talent on those teams - the number of hall-of-famers he had playing - heck, almost half the starters made the pro bowl: Jim Kelly, Therman Thomas, Andre Reed, Bruce Smith, Steve Tasker; a front line of Hull, Wolfer, Ballard, and Ritcher; defensive backs Darryl Tally, Cornelius Bennett, Shane Conlan; James Lofton, . Hell, there was so much talent on that team that Mickey Mouse could have coached them to the Superbowl. Versus the Giants in the Superbowl though, they were vastly outcoached. In fact, Belicheck's defensive game plan is in the hall of fame. The Bills should have easily won that game, but made some horrible decisions, horrible clock management (The Giants set a record for having their defense on the field for more than 40 minutes), especially toward the end of the game, resulting in a Scott Norwood wide right (who barely made more than 50% of his kicks from 40-49 yards, and was only 2 of 10 career from greater than 50 yards) Do you really want to put your game on a kicker with those stats? And, with over 2 minutes, the should have been able to get off far more plays and move much further down the field.
 
CPA said:
Some are saying that Browns' were ready to offer Marrone without Kelly's decision.

In fact, twitter is now saying Marrone to Bills' isn't finalized because another team is pushing for him.
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Honestly, I'm just loving that the Chargers keep getting shafted on their head coach hunt. First Reid cancelled (and signed), then Marrone, supposedly Kelly, etc. It's like nobody wants to work for the Chargers.
 
SunnyD said:
Honestly, I'm just loving that the Chargers keep getting shafted on their head coach hunt. First Reid cancelled (and signed), then Marrone, supposedly Kelly, etc. It's like nobody wants to work for the Chargers.
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why would they? you're doing awesome and regularly take your team to the playoffs (losing to the Pats when everyone else was) and then all of the sudden you get fired for Norv Turner

they also had a shot at Eli Manning (2 superbowl wins), Ben Roethlisberger (3 superbowls, 2 wins), and instead of holding on to Drew Brees (1 superbowl win and most prolific passer currently in the league) they opt to go with Rivers
 
techs said:
The Boston Herald had a great story about the Kraft/Belichek relationship and how Bob Kraft runs his team.

Maybe the Bills should read it?
http://bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/nfl_coverage/2013/01/kraft_belichick_enduring_marriage
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Uh... why would that have ANY relevance to anything? In case you weren't around for the last decade, the patriots have been arguable THE MOST SUCCESSFUL franchise there has been. You're not going to fire a coach that takes you to the playoffs virtually every year for a decade straight.

On the other hand, the Bills have not even seen the playoffs in the last 13 years, nor have even been close. And you're not going to keep coaches the keep posting losing records year after year.
 
SunnyD said:
Uh... why would that have ANY relevance to anything? In case you weren't around for the last decade, the patriots have been arguable THE MOST SUCCESSFUL franchise there has been. You're not going to fire a coach that takes you to the playoffs virtually every year for a decade straight.

On the other hand, the Bills have not even seen the playoffs in the last 13 years, nor have even been close. And you're not going to keep coaches the keep posting losing records year after year.
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As the story says Belichek was 5-11 his first year and the Pats fans were screaming for Belicheks head. But Kraft said if you hire good people you have to stand by them. There is a great deal to be said for stability.

Look at Andy Reid whose owner continually interefered with him. Look at Woody Johnson telling the Jets to trade for Tebow.

Look at Belicheks record at Cleveland and then his record at the Pats. He was 36-44 with Cleveland and had one winning season. Then he comes to the Pats and has an awful season. How many owners would have stuck by Belichek?
 
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There's a difference between 1 season and, say, 13 straight seasons of suck. Buffalo has literally had only ONE winning (9-7) season since 2000, that was in 2004 under Mularkey, and the following season under Mularkey they went 5-11. Basically since Wade Phillips inherited the leftovers of the superbowl teams, not a single coach has managed to "improve" the team over his tenure by any measurable margin.

So again, I see no relevance on what you're trying to say here. Unless you're saying that every NFL team should hire one head coach and stick with him until he retires or dies or something stupid like that.
 
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