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Bill Targets U.S. Troops Buried in France

N8Magic

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Florida Congresswoman Wants to Bring Servicemen Buried in France Back Home

In another swipe at the French, a Florida congresswoman has proposed that the government pay for families who might want to bring home from France the remains of Americans who fought and died in the world wars.

"I, along with many other Americans, do not feel that the French government appreciates the sacrifices men and women in uniform have made to defend the freedom that the French enjoy today," Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite said in introducing legislation providing financial help for the reburial of veterans from the two world wars.
The legislation, which faces uncertain prospects, is the latest show of congressional frustration over French threats to veto a U.N. resolution that would open the way for U.S. military action against Iraq.

Earlier this week, the chairman of the House Administration Committee, Rep. Bob Ney, R-Ohio, ordered that House restaurants change their menus to read "freedom fries" instead of French fries. French toast would also become freedom toast.

Lawmakers have also introduced bills to prevent France from participating in any postwar reconstruction projects.

Brown-Waite, a freshman Republican, said she decided to sponsor the bill after she was approached by a constituent who said he wanted to bring home his father, who was killed in World War II and buried in France.

Some 74,000 American war casualties are buried in France and Belgium, including 30,000 from World War I. The host nations, while retaining sovereignty over the burial grounds, have granted the land in perpetuity to the United States as military cemeteries.

Steve Thomas, a spokesman for the American Legion, said the veterans' group would need some time to look at the legislation. He said the American Legion has always respected the wishes of the families concerning those who died in combat, but noted that "a lot of people may not want to repatriate their fallen loved ones, separating them from their comrades, to make a statement about the French government."
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People are taking the anti-France stance waaaaaaaayyyyy too far. Boycotting French products is one thing, but removing the bodies of soldiers who fought in the great wars is taking things a bit too far. :disgust: This congresswoman really needs to smarten up already.

Keep in mind that the war cemetaries are considered American soil much like an embassy, and as such, the soldiers could be considered to be home already.

What do you think?
 
Originally posted by: N8Magic<brKeep in mind that the war cemetaries are considered American soil much like an embassy, and as such, the soldiers could be considered to be home already.
That isn't true, it is still French soil, they just have promised to never dig it up and use it for anything else for all time.

What do you think?
I agree, it is a bit over the top. But the bill did not say we should bring them all home, just give the familes the option to do so on the Taxpayer's nickel.

The part of the bill that means a lot more is the part about not letting France be part of the reconstruction of Iraq, including the oil contracts.

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It's an old idea.

Among the most admirable moves of President Lyndon Johnson came in the mid-1960s, following Charles de Gaulle?s announcement to withdraw France from NATO?s military alliance. As Secretary of State Dean Rusk finished briefing Johnson on the logistical details of his upcoming session with de Gaulle, the president calmly ordered something like, ?Finally, Dean, ask de Gaulle if he also wants us to move the cemeteries of Americans buried there.? Rusk demurred, but Johnson made him ask. Should we also withdraw the graves of Americans who sacrificed their lives for France?s liberation from the Nazis?

de Gaulle did not answer.

 
"The part of the bill that means a lot more is the part about not letting France be part of the reconstruction of Iraq, including the oil contracts"



What if the Iraqis want to deal with France?
 
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
"The part of the bill that means a lot more is the part about not letting France be part of the reconstruction of Iraq, including the oil contracts"



What if the Iraqis want to deal with France?

I don't believe I've seen this question asked before. Makes you think. Once we liberate the Iraqis and begin to rebuild the country, are we going to ask the Iraqis themselves what they think/want?

 
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France Demands Return of the Statue of Liberty
By Brian Briggs


Paris - France has invoked a long forgotten clause to demand that the Statue of Liberty be returned.

The people of France sent Lady Liberty as a gift to the people of the United States in 1886, but the recent row between the countries over Iraq has them rethinking their present. A graduate student in history, Jean Renault, at the &Eacute;cole Centrale Paris uncovered a document which gives France the right to recall the gift under certain conditions.

"It says right here," said Renault pointing to the aged document, "that if America drops below a certain level on the Franklin Scale (an international measure of a country's liberty and freedoms) that France can demand the statue back."

Jacques Chirac glowed with excitement at the discovery. "Finally, the Americans will feel the wrath of the French. We plan on putting the statue in Eurodisney, or giving it to a more freedom-loving country like North Korea."

Chirac also warned that if the statue is not returned that France would "vigorously enforce its patent on French Fries, and send all its good red wine to Germany." Economists believe such moves would cripple an already weak American economy.

The news infuriated many Americans. Karl Cabot of Waukesha, Wisconsin said, "You know I sorta remember reading about a clause like that before, but I say screw the Frenchies. The statue should stay in Washington D.C. where it belongs!"

President Bush vehemently opposed the request. "America is the land of the free and the home of the brave. It says so in our constitution. God bless America."

A recent poll showed that Americans favored renaming the statue to the Statue of Quasi-Liberty, or The Torch Lady in order to keep the monument in New York harbor.

Tony Blair suggested a compromise in which the Statue of Liberty would be left exactly where it is and France would "ah heck off."
 
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
"The part of the bill that means a lot more is the part about not letting France be part of the reconstruction of Iraq, including the oil contracts"



What if the Iraqis want to deal with France?

I don't believe I've seen this question asked before. Makes you think. Once we liberate the Iraqis and begin to rebuild the country, are we going to ask the Iraqis themselves what they think/want?

After the French are on record at the UN for not wanting to remove Saddam, I think they will know who is looking after their best interests. This is why, even if the resolution fails, it needs to be voted on.
 
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
"The part of the bill that means a lot more is the part about not letting France be part of the reconstruction of Iraq, including the oil contracts"



What if the Iraqis want to deal with France?

I don't believe I've seen this question asked before. Makes you think. Once we liberate the Iraqis and begin to rebuild the country, are we going to ask the Iraqis themselves what they think/want?

After the French are on record at the UN for not wanting to remove Saddam, I think they will know who is looking after their best interests. This is why, even if the resolution fails, it needs to be voted on.


Well, what if the Iraqis want to deal with the French?
 
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
"The part of the bill that means a lot more is the part about not letting France be part of the reconstruction of Iraq, including the oil contracts"



What if the Iraqis want to deal with France?

I don't believe I've seen this question asked before. Makes you think. Once we liberate the Iraqis and begin to rebuild the country, are we going to ask the Iraqis themselves what they think/want?

After the French are on record at the UN for not wanting to remove Saddam, I think they will know who is looking after their best interests. This is why, even if the resolution fails, it needs to be voted on.


Well, what if the Iraqis want to deal with the French?

They probably will not have much choice while an interum goverment is in place, but after that i am sure they will be able to deal with who they want.
 
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
"The part of the bill that means a lot more is the part about not letting France be part of the reconstruction of Iraq, including the oil contracts"



What if the Iraqis want to deal with France?

I don't believe I've seen this question asked before. Makes you think. Once we liberate the Iraqis and begin to rebuild the country, are we going to ask the Iraqis themselves what they think/want?

After the French are on record at the UN for not wanting to remove Saddam, I think they will know who is looking after their best interests. This is why, even if the resolution fails, it needs to be voted on.

What you say is more than likely true. Has there been any published articles on what the Iraqis think of France (et al)? Still, a probability isn't a certainty. If the unlikely occurs, and France is welcomed by the Iraqi population, I wonder what we would do.

 
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
"The part of the bill that means a lot more is the part about not letting France be part of the reconstruction of Iraq, including the oil contracts"



What if the Iraqis want to deal with France?

I don't believe I've seen this question asked before. Makes you think. Once we liberate the Iraqis and begin to rebuild the country, are we going to ask the Iraqis themselves what they think/want?

After the French are on record at the UN for not wanting to remove Saddam, I think they will know who is looking after their best interests. This is why, even if the resolution fails, it needs to be voted on.




Well, what if the Iraqis want to deal with the French?

They probably will not have much choice while an interum goverment is in place, but after that i am sure they will be able to deal with who they want.


Ahh, so the Iraqis won't have a voice. They will be committed to contracts made for them instead. To go elsewhere they will have to break those. Ok I understand now.
 
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
Originally posted by: charrison
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Hayabusarider
"The part of the bill that means a lot more is the part about not letting France be part of the reconstruction of Iraq, including the oil contracts"



What if the Iraqis want to deal with France?

I don't believe I've seen this question asked before. Makes you think. Once we liberate the Iraqis and begin to rebuild the country, are we going to ask the Iraqis themselves what they think/want?

After the French are on record at the UN for not wanting to remove Saddam, I think they will know who is looking after their best interests. This is why, even if the resolution fails, it needs to be voted on.




Well, what if the Iraqis want to deal with the French?

They probably will not have much choice while an interum goverment is in place, but after that i am sure they will be able to deal with who they want.


Ahh, so the Iraqis won't have a voice. They will be committed to contracts made for them instead. To go elsewhere they will have to break those. Ok I understand now.


That is not what I said. The interum goverment will make the decisions while a democratic goverment is being put in place. There will be no iraqi goverment to make decisions right after this war is over.
 
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