Bill Maher: the Republicans are now the party of 'being a dick'

[ivwshane]

I really don't agree with all this nasty name calling. We have been taken over by brain defectives who now threaten life itself. They aren't dicks. They are dangerous monsters. It's time for national mobilization to turn this around. They are at war and the opposition is still asleep calling them names.

I'm still waiting for you to give us a solution to handle these people and still haven't heard anything viable.

 

[Moonbeam]

I'm still waiting for you to give us a solution to handle these people and still haven't heard anything viable.

There are several issues here, but no need to cover them all because if I were to have something useful to say you wouldn't recognize it for what it is. No use trying to put new tea in a filled cup. You can't tell people things they think they already know that is different from their opinion. How do you tell a liberal brain defective how to deal with a conservative brain defective when the liberal brain defect is the inability to deal with the CBD. But when you begin to see how hopeless you are and try to fix that, maybe some ideas will percolate up. Otherwise peace and love, bro.

 

[ivwshane]

There are several issues here, but no need to cover them all because if I were to have something useful to say you wouldn't recognize it for what it is. No use trying to put new tea in a filled cup. You can't tell people things they think they already know that is different from their opinion. How do you tell a liberal brain defective how to deal with a conservative brain defective when the liberal brain defect is the inability to deal with the CBD. But when you begin to see how hopeless you are and try to fix that, maybe some ideas will percolate up. Otherwise peace and love, bro.

Lol. You could have just called me stupid and saved me and everyone else's time. Or just said you have no idea.

 

[Moonbeam]

Lol. You could have just called me stupid and saved me and everyone else's time. Or just said you have no idea.

Well I know things that you don't so you have to be careful with your assumptions. I learned that from Mulla Nasrudin when I used to accompany him when he practiced medicines. We went to the home of a man who was suffering a form of malnutrition and was stubborn and opinionated and suspicious of the things that even of doctors. So when the Mulla examined him he sat and hemmed and hawed as to what his treatment should be. Now let see he began, you need something round and red, It should have a peel. Probably also said the Mulla, it will have to have, let me see, yes it should probably have seeds and................... when the man interrupted and shouted APPLES. Yes I think so, one a day, said the Mulla. Now when I asked the Mulla why he didn't just tell the man apples, the Mulla replied, because he also need time to take in his need for treatment. Never just assume that what appears to be wasted time is really wasted.

OK, so let's change the focus a bit. What's with the need for a solution. We know there are some really whacked out people who post here. Can you see a difference between it would be nice to fix them and having to fix them? Psychological ignorance hides a very important truth. These people constantly fuck themselves, they live in a nightmare, but one they are unconscious of. You are looking at how stupid and dangerous they are, not how deeply lost they are to inner joy. Their pleasure is in shitting, the very thing, it so happens, that federalizes gardens.

 

[ivwshane]

Well I know things that you don't so you have to be careful with your assumptions. I learned that from Mulla Nasrudin when I used to accompany him when he practiced medicines. We went to the home of a man who was suffering a form of malnutrition and was stubborn and opinionated and suspicious of the things that even of doctors. So when the Mulla examined him he sat and hemmed and hawed as to what his treatment should be. Now let see he began, you need something round and red, It should have a peel. Probably also said the Mulla, it will have to have, let me see, yes it should probably have seeds and................... when the man interrupted and shouted APPLES. Yes I think so, one a day, said the Mulla. Now when I asked the Mulla why he didn't just tell the man apples, the Mulla replied, because he also need time to take in his need for treatment. Never just assume that what appears to be wasted time is really wasted.

OK, so let's change the focus a bit. What's with the need for a solution. We know there are some really whacked out people who post here. Can you see a difference between it would be nice to fix them and having to fix them? Psychological ignorance hides a very important truth. These people constantly fuck themselves, they live in a nightmare, but one they are unconscious of. You are looking at how stupid and dangerous they are, not how deeply lost they are to inner joy. Their pleasure is in shitting, the very thing, it so happens, that federalizes gardens.

Yes but the reality is, without them and their majorities in governments at all levels, you've got nothing. Your savior, Bernie, would have been powerless to enact any meaningful changes. Hell, just look at all the things trump and the Republicans have undone that Obama enacted.

What you don't seem to realize is that if there is no reasoning with the right, our democracy fails. The right isn't getting smaller, it's growing and its a cancer that won't go away unless there is an effective treatment. Ignoring them won't solve anything, pointing out their flaws doesn't change their minds, shaming them only emboldens them. We don't have time on our side, the longer things go unchanged the worst it will get.

 

[Jaskalas]

I'm still waiting for you to give us a solution to handle these people and still haven't heard anything viable.

Secure the growing voter base that rocked the 2016 election. They're loyal to appeals of economic "solutions", not party.
They need to remember "yes we can". Go big, go bold, because they need to learn to hope again.
Connect to vulnerable people on an emotional level, and rally them to a reformed party separated from corporate interests.

 

[ivwshane]

Secure the growing voter base that rocked the 2016 election. They're loyal to appeals of economic "solutions", not party.
They need to remember "yes we can". Go big, go bold, because they need to learn to hope again.
Connect to vulnerable people on an emotional level, and rally them to a reformed party separated from corporate interests.

I'm not aware of any growing voter base, what are you referring to?

 

[Moonbeam]

Sorry, ivwshane. Lost the post and don't want to do it again.

 

[agent00f]

I'm not aware of any growing voter base, what are you referring to?

Presumably trump's +14% on non-college whites who're Real aficionados of economic policy.

 

[ivwshane]

Presumably trump's +14% on non-college whites who're Real aficionados of economic policy.

The ones who generally made more the 50k a year? Lol sure.

I think you'd get a kick out of this article.

https://theintercept.com/2017/04/06...ore-motivated-by-racism-than-economic-issues/

 

[agent00f]

The ones who generally made more the 50k a year? Lol sure.

I think you'd get a kick out of this article.

https://theintercept.com/2017/04/06...ore-motivated-by-racism-than-economic-issues/

An illuminating and insight answer came from Trump when some reporter asked him on the trail why he rarely spoke of policy or serious issues at campaign events. Trump said that his crowds were bored by these things, but excited whenever he yelled about making wall 10ft taller and whatnot, so he just went with got people riled.

I actually posted about the ANES/Gallup data a few times, and Jaskalas and other defenders of the faith are probably smart enough to figure the implications about said crowd anyway, even if ideologically obliged & self-interested to cast their peers as some kind of brain trust.

 

[cytg111]

Are you a snowflake?

Yes. Most definitely. Snowflakes are much like DNA, not two strains are identical.
Anyway, back to the topic.
When conversing with a used car salesperson do you get swayed by the sweet talk or do you filter that out and rely on the facts?

 

[soundforbjt]

Did anyone see Conway's HS yearbook picture on real time this week, it was hilarious.

 

[theeedude]

Yes. Most definitely. Snowflakes are much like DNA, not two strains are identical.
Anyway, back to the topic.
When conversing with a used car salesperson do you get swayed by the sweet talk or do you filter that out and rely on the facts?

Bill Maher is an entertainer. He is not there to read wikipedia for you. He is not there to make it nice for you either.

 

[TeeJay1952]

Did anyone see Conway's HS yearbook picture on real time this week, it was hilarious.

There is so much wrong in the current administration that we do not have to go to "And you're ugly too!" responses. It gives the other side an opportunity to slither away from the glare of the spotlight.

 

[Thebobo]

What would a dick do?

 

[disappoint]

There are several issues here, but no need to cover them all because if I were to have something useful to say you wouldn't recognize it for what it is. No use trying to put new tea in a filled cup. You can't tell people things they think they already know that is different from their opinion. How do you tell a liberal brain defective how to deal with a conservative brain defective when the liberal brain defect is the inability to deal with the CBD. But when you begin to see how hopeless you are and try to fix that, maybe some ideas will percolate up. Otherwise peace and love, bro.

These are contradictory. If you can fix it, then there is hope. Maybe you meant flawed.

 

[baydude]

When did he ever not think Repubs are dicks?

 

[Moonbeam]

These are contradictory. If you can fix it, then there is hope. Maybe you meant flawed.

I speak of a paradox that is resolved only at a higher level of consciousness. There is no hope because hope is born of ego, a desire for change, a desire to escape something. Hope is the antidote to hopelessness. One can't exist without the other. There is another kind of hope that comes when hope and hopeless die, when they are seen as a game the ego plays to preserve itself. The ego holds out hope as a carrot to drive the horse of ego on. When that game is seen for what it is one sees that there is no hope in hope, that hope is despair, that hope is hopeless. It is then and only then that surrender sets a table that can be visited by Grace. We are not the ego and when the ego dies there is only the perfection of being. What can perfection hope for? Hope is when there is a feeling of imperfection and all such feelings are a lie. There is only being and in being there is no lack. This all becomes clear only if and when one is.

To be requires that what one is not stops being. We are not the ego and any search to find a way out of that is ego, The search is hope, the goal a hopeless impossibility. All the self can do is see that, to come to the end of hope's rope and find a strawberry growing there. When the mind becomes frozen by the realization of it's utter futility, something may happen that awakens the heart into being. That is a mystery for which there can be no proof or explanation because the hearing of it is all done by the ego. The finger pointing at the moon is not the moon.

 

[zinfamous]

Here's a link to the Variety summary, since there's no guarantee everyone can watch the video.

It's full of Bill Maher's usual invective, which I don't think is entirely healthy to intelligent discussion, but there is a point: the Republicans under Trump are deregulating some things (like lead in bullets) purely out of spite, things that they could have left alone without a single complaint from their supporters. It's to the point where they're coming across as cartoon villains. Will this kill children, starve elderly people or ruin the planet? Good, let's do it.

The only reason there isn't immediate panic is because companies are unlikely to seize on this deregulation. There's not much financial incentive to revert to the old ways, and most outfits know that those regulations are coming back the moment the Democrats regain power. But it shows how short-sighted the current GOP is -- it's acting as if whatever it does won't have consequences, and won't be reversed down the road.

And as Maher suggests, this isn't really conservatism in the classic sense. Even in past decades, the Republicans still maintained a degree of reason: we want fewer rules, but we understand where rules are necessary. Here, it appears as if there's no floor, as if they object to the very notion of rules. And I suspect it's going to bite them in the ass come 2018 or 2020, as some of their voters probably weren't expecting this irresponsible orgy of deregulation.

This is what happens when you put in charge a group of kids that pretty much stopped reading all literature after the 10th grade--when they read their first Ayn Rand book, then read all of her stuff, and confused it for real literature. This is what happens when you ignore the decades of valid criticism and historical evidence that points to how batshit loony and irrelevant were the ideas of Rand, when applied to real life economics and social policy.

 

[brandonbull]

Baby boomer lead exposure during childhood may be what has lead to the sociopathy of the modern day Republican base.

I wouldn't be surprised if GOP tries to bring back leaded gasoline to keep the party going.

This is the type of stuff people should be making a priority on addressing if they want a "health care system". Maybe this explains the violence in the the way Liberals "protest". Seems like Dems are not immune to high levels of lead either.