Bill Maher - "Ground Zero" Mosque and other issues.

[classy]

I would say the major difference between Maher and the Fox crew is that he isn't actively trying to destroy the country.

LOL @ people not watching the video because it contains content that "might" not align with their views. How does it feel to be so fucking narrow minded?

I watched the video. Same thing as all the other 1000 times. Religous people are bad and republican religous people are the worse. Same dog and pony show. Nothing new. You can go back 10 years and the guy has the same tired arguments. He tries to come off knowledgeable in a comedic way, but its weak. Just because someone believes in something besides just some natural thing doesn't make them looney or strange. Its a stupid argument. Most of the pople who do bad things in this world are atheist.

 

[classy]

It is so easy to pick out the nuts in this thread that close their eyes at night and talk to themselves.

Whats so special about you because you don't talk to yourself at night? Even though I doubt that conversation would yield much beyond some baby babble, what so special about life that your "enlightenment" has given you that the makes you better than the "nuts".

 

[woolfe9999]

I watched the video. Same thing as all the other 1000 times. Religous people are bad and republican religous people are the worse. Same dog and pony show. Nothing new. You can go back 10 years and the guy has the same tired arguments. He tries to come off knowledgeable in a comedic way, but its weak. Just because someone believes in something besides just some natural thing doesn't make them looney or strange. Its a stupid argument. Most of the pople who do bad things in this world are atheist.

Your last statement is comically ridiculous and reveals the very bias I suspected from your first post. You just don't like atheists.

Anyway, assuming Mahrer believes that religion is a fiction, in his world, by definition, it IS looney and strange to believe in it. You simply don't think it is looney or strange because you believe in it.

I think the real trouble here is that you don't want atheists speaking their minds. They haven't been for the better part of our history because they would be shunned and ostracized for doing so, and further back, deep in western history, they would have been tortured to death, burned or hanged. But of course, it has always been OK for people to preach about their religion and their beliefs. You wouldn't be offended by someone saying they believe in a supernatural entity that created the universe and is omnopotent but unseen, but if someone says, no, that is fiction, then it's a problem for you.

- wolf

 

[manimal]

I can listen to mahar and laugh in the same way I can listen to flight of the valkyries and separate that the composer was an extreme bigot..

When did it become neccesary to have to agree with 100 percent of what someone says for them to be credible, funny, or relevant?

Try to get outside your comfort zone or your echo chamber on accasion. It will strengthen your beliefs and thicken your skin, its one of the reasons I like coming here ^^

ever listened to lindon larouche talk? He was batshit crazy but still had something to say... I probably disagreed with 99 percent of what he said, but that 1 percent does make you think...

 

[classy]

Your last statement is comically ridiculous and reveals the very bias I suspected from your first post. You just don't like atheists.

Anyway, assuming Mahrer believes that religion is a fiction, in his world, by definition, it IS looney and strange to believe in it. You simply don't think it is looney or strange because you believe in it.

I think the real trouble here is that you don't want atheists speaking their minds. They haven't been for the better part of our history because they would be shunned and ostracized for doing so, and further back, deep in western history, they would have been tortured to death, burned or hanged. But of course, it has always been OK for people to preach about their religion and their beliefs. You wouldn't be offended by someone saying they believe in a supernatural entity that created the universe and is omnopotent but unseen, but if someone says, no, that is fiction, then it's a problem for you.

- wolf

Who cares if a person believes in God or not. Does that make Maher any more or less annoyingly stupid. That is not the only main reason why I dislike him. Dude is just not funny and his zingers are corny. Stay on point. I don't understand why people give credance to idiots like Maher or Limbaugh. And I once was engaged to and lived with an atheist. She didn't believe in God, but she was still a good girl. It doesn't make one better or worse. But morons like you love to run out some religous nut label. I could care less about your atheist belief, just like you could care less about some religous belief. My believe in some God who I have never seen is no more or less dumb than your idiotic belief you came from a monkey.

 

[daishi5]

Pretty funny how many people form an opinion without even watching the video...

If I told you there was a 3 hour youtube video by Glenn Beck that disproves global warming. Would you need to watch it to form an opinion?

There is enough information in the thread title for me to have a very good chance at knowing what will be presented in the video. Not to mention, most people with a favorite sky fairy are well aware of Maher's opinion of their sky fairy, and don't like being ridiculed.

 

[Daedalus685]

...My believe in some God who I have never seen is no more or less dumb than your idiotic belief you came from a monkey.

Umm....

Yes it is.

We have evidence of our 'belief'... Though a 'monkey' came from the same ancestor we did, and it was no more a monkey than we are.

There is no comparison between an unfalsifiable unproven opinion and something as well understood as biology...

If one wants to believe that an intelligence directed the creation of the universe you are no more silly than anyone else... But to assert that this god created things as they are now recently is absurd and objectively wrong.. One certainly has the right to be wrong... but just as one might criticize another for claiming falsehoods about engineering anyone who asserts these kind of ideas has to be ready to be labelled a fool in the same way one who claims a computer works by tiny electron men who work in cubicles called transistors computing maths.


And on another notes.. Maher is a comedian.. Limbaugh is not. The two are not directly comparable.... You don't have to find him funny but just because you may not care for a comedian does not mean he is comparable to every other being you might not care for.

 

[OCGuy]

Whats so special about you because you don't talk to yourself at night? Even though I doubt that conversation would yield much beyond some baby babble, what so special about life that your "enlightenment" has given you that the makes you better than the "nuts".

Don't be upset with me because you think that some higher power is listening to your requests before you go to bed at night.

 

[Daedalus685]

Don't be upset with me because you think that some higher power is listening to your requests before you go to bed at night.

If we are not allowed to talk to ourselves how can we be expected to get good conversation after we put our computers to bed??

 

[Inspector Jihad]

My believe in some God who I have never seen is no more or less dumb than your idiotic belief you came from a monkey.

stupidity confirmed.

 

[Atreus21]

What a dumb thread.

 

[woolfe9999]

Who cares if a person believes in God or not.

Who indeed? It certainly sounds like YOU do, which explains your rather hostile reaction to Mahrer. Yeah I know, you claim his humor is lame. Humor is subjective. It seems pretty clear that he is pushing your buttons.

- wolf

 

[classy]

Who indeed? It certainly sounds like YOU do, which explains your rather hostile reaction to Mahrer. Yeah I know, you claim his humor is lame. Humor is subjective. It seems pretty clear that he is pushing your buttons.

- wolf

Bill Maher is not funny. Its not hostile, just truth. Glenn Beck not funny, Rush Limbaugh not funny, and your messiah is not funny either. You guys are just mad because no one believes like you do.

Some people believe in God some people do not. My belief doesn't make God any more or less real. And your disbelief doesn't make God any more or less real. Bill Maher is just annoying. Is he a good person or bad person, I don't know. But never the less, being an atheist is not why I don't like him. I like lots of atheists, almost married one.

See your problem is as most atheist you think you are smarter than someone who believes in God. Reality is you are no dumber or smarter. I know a lot of successful atheists and a lot of broke atheists too. Just like I know a lot of successful religous people and some broke religous people too. Cliff notes....

Your ass stanks like everyone else's. And for every religous person who sucks, there is an atheist right there with them.

And I am sorry I put down your messiah.

Oh and Merry Christmas

 

[woolfe9999]

Bill Maher is not funny. Its not hostile, just truth. Glenn Beck not funny, Rush Limbaugh not funny, and your messiah is not funny either. You guys are just mad because no one believes like you do.

Some people believe in God some people do not. My belief doesn't make God any more or less real. And your disbelief doesn't make God any more or less real. Bill Maher is just annoying. Is he a good person or bad person, I don't know. But never the less, being an atheist is not why I don't like him. I like lots of atheists, almost married one.

See your problem is as most atheist you think you are smarter than someone who believes in God. Reality is you are no dumber or smarter. I know a lot of successful atheists and a lot of broke atheists too. Just like I know a lot of successful religous people and some broke religous people too. Cliff notes....

Your ass stanks like everyone else's. And for every religous person who sucks, there is an atheist right there with them.

And I am sorry I put down your messiah.

Oh and Merry Christmas

Mmm hmm. Out of curiosity, who is my "messiah?"

- wolf

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

your idiotic belief you came from a monkey.

See, this is why you are being ridiculed, you are uneducated and ignorant and it's your very own choice.

I'm fairly certain that they taught the ToE even where you grew up but you refused the information to a degree where you cannot even make a coherent argument on the matter.

So perhaps your lack of education and intelligence is just you being a product of your environment, doesn't matter, if you willfully stay ignorant, you are fucking stupid.

 

[classy]

See, this is why you are being ridiculed, you are uneducated and ignorant and it's your very own choice.

I'm fairly certain that they taught the ToE even where you grew up but you refused the information to a degree where you cannot even make a coherent argument on the matter.

So perhaps your lack of education and intelligence is just you being a product of your environment, doesn't matter, if you willfully stay ignorant, you are fucking stupid.

Oh now JaneOfSheffield you still mad, lol? You and I both know why you are mad .

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Oh now JaneOfSheffield you still mad, lol? You and I both know why you are mad .

I can't remember even responding to you before so perhaps you can enlighten me?

And no, son, i'm not angry with you, just dissapointed that in todays enlightened world there still exists those who willfully refuse to learn even the basics of one of our times most important theories (if not THE most important theory since very few of us would remain without it) yet.

I assume you are just stupid and have made something up in your mind like you must have had to do when they were teaching biology in your last five years of grade school.

 

[bfdd]

Did you take a ride on the short bus again? People, including those who have true faith, cry at funerals for those who remain, for their family and loved ones, the ones who will miss the person. They don't cry for the deceased.

Suuure they don't. I've NEVER heard a religious person say, at a funeral, "I'm going to miss them so much!" Nope never heard it.

 

[werepossum]

Old possum doesn't need information to confirm his opinions. Once he has established a viewpoint (talking point?) new data is superfluous.

On the contrary, I've changed opinions more than once on this board within the year, and I have recently changed my opinion that "Two and half men" isn't funny. (Actually watched it, it's freakin' hilarious and I was totally wrong.) I changed my mind on Whoopi Goldberg based on her stand-up, which unlike Maher's IS clever and insightful even though she is probably as big a lib. I am unlikely to change my mind that Maher is funny - I can't imagine that a man who thinks that dressing up as Steve Erwin with a stingray spine in his chest is a clever or funny Halloween costume would ever be funny, but it could happen. What I can't even imagine is changing my mind to the point that I would think Maher is actually insightful, that his views are worth pondering, that he is actually smarter than, say, mold.

You may attribute that to my inflexibility if you wish, but consider that almost all of Hollywood, including those I find funniest, are politically on your side of the fence. (Indeed, virtually everyone with a measurable risk of choking to death on his or her own vomit, or overdosing in a mansion, is a liberal.) Only if someone is a complete tool can I not enjoy their work - IF it is funny. Maher can't make that bar - Maher couldn't make a bar spray-painted down the center of the Mariana Trench - and is a tool to boot. On the other hand, I have no problem admitting that John Cusack, also a total tool of a liberal, is a very talented actor.

 

[Munky]

Considering how dumb his last one was, I'm sure this one will not disappoint.

 

[woolfe9999]

On the contrary, I've changed opinions more than once on this board within the year, and I have recently changed my opinion that "Two and half men" isn't funny. (Actually watched it, it's freakin' hilarious and I was totally wrong.) I changed my mind on Whoopi Goldberg based on her stand-up, which unlike Maher's IS clever and insightful even though she is probably as big a lib. I am unlikely to change my mind that Maher is funny - I can't imagine that a man who thinks that dressing up as Steve Erwin with a stingray spine in his chest is a clever or funny Halloween costume would ever be funny, but it could happen. What I can't even imagine is changing my mind to the point that I would think Maher is actually insightful, that his views are worth pondering, that he is actually smarter than, say, mold.

You may attribute that to my inflexibility if you wish, but consider that almost all of Hollywood, including those I find funniest, are politically on your side of the fence. (Indeed, virtually everyone with a measurable risk of choking to death on his or her own vomit, or overdosing in a mansion, is a liberal.) Only if someone is a complete tool can I not enjoy their work - IF it is funny. Maher can't make that bar - Maher couldn't make a bar spray-painted down the center of the Mariana Trench - and is a tool to boot. On the other hand, I have no problem admitting that John Cusack, also a total tool of a liberal, is a very talented actor.

I'm inclined to believe you when you say that you consider certain liberals talented and/or funny. But do you ever find a lib talented and/or funny when they are lampooning conservatives and/or religious positions that you agree with? It's one thing to think John Cusask is a good actor since he's playing a role and you don't have to think about the fact that he's a liberal when he's doing it. But Maher is an in your face political humorist who insults conseratives and religious people. He isn't a comedian who happens to be anti-conservative; he is an anti-conservative comedian. It's kind of like Classy when he says he doesn't hate atheists - I believe he's telling the truth. He probably doesn't hate them, except when they are talking about their atheism.

- wolf

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

On the contrary, I've changed opinions more than once on this board within the year, and I have recently changed my opinion that "Two and half men" isn't funny. (Actually watched it, it's freakin' hilarious and I was totally wrong.) I changed my mind on Whoopi Goldberg based on her stand-up, which unlike Maher's IS clever and insightful even though she is probably as big a lib. I am unlikely to change my mind that Maher is funny - I can't imagine that a man who thinks that dressing up as Steve Erwin with a stingray spine in his chest is a clever or funny Halloween costume would ever be funny, but it could happen. What I can't even imagine is changing my mind to the point that I would think Maher is actually insightful, that his views are worth pondering, that he is actually smarter than, say, mold.

You may attribute that to my inflexibility if you wish, but consider that almost all of Hollywood, including those I find funniest, are politically on your side of the fence. (Indeed, virtually everyone with a measurable risk of choking to death on his or her own vomit, or overdosing in a mansion, is a liberal.) Only if someone is a complete tool can I not enjoy their work - IF it is funny. Maher can't make that bar - Maher couldn't make a bar spray-painted down the center of the Mariana Trench - and is a tool to boot. On the other hand, I have no problem admitting that John Cusack, also a total tool of a liberal, is a very talented actor.

Ahhhh, the old generalisations...

Is OBL a conservative?

Then surely that sets the standards for conservatives...

Mahers remarks on religion are funny because they are true, much like Carlins remarks on religion and other things were funny because they are true.

If you don't like being ridiculed, don't hold on to beliefs including dirt men and rib women, talking snakes and donkeys, men living inside of a whale for 40 days and nights, Jewish Zombies and other nonsensical fairy tales.

I mean, seriously, considering those stories, how could anyone say that the Santa story can't be true? Or a wolf eating granny and being saved by having him cut open and she's alive?

If you truly believe in that, you honestly deserve all ridicule, it has nothing to do with respect either, no sane person can justify those beliefs even to himself and remain sane.

 

[JoshGuru7]

Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck proffer themselves as beholders and speakers of the truth. Maher is mostly a comedian. That's where the wheels come off of your argument.

I think Maher is very often funny, but when a comedian is espousing a political viewpoint they are no different from anybody else making a political argument. Any comedian who makes a political argument then refuses to address criticism of his opinions because "he's just a comedian" is taking a pretty pathetic route (jon stewart). I find your statement a bit ironic because one of the things I like about Maher is that he will stand behind his views and rebut criticism directly.

 

[Taejin]

Who cares if a person believes in God or not. Does that make Maher any more or less annoyingly stupid. That is not the only main reason why I dislike him. Dude is just not funny and his zingers are corny. Stay on point. I don't understand why people give credance to idiots like Maher or Limbaugh. And I once was engaged to and lived with an atheist. She didn't believe in God, but she was still a good girl. It doesn't make one better or worse. But morons like you love to run out some religous nut label. I could care less about your atheist belief, just like you could care less about some religous belief. My believe in some God who I have never seen is no more or less dumb than your idiotic belief you came from a monkey.

and in one stroke classy shows indeed he is a retard

 

[werepossum]

I'm inclined to believe you when you say that you consider certain liberals talented and/or funny. But do you ever find a lib talented and/or funny when they are lampooning conservatives and/or religious positions that you agree with? It's one thing to think John Cusask is a good actor since he's playing a role and you don't have to think about the fact that he's a liberal when he's doing it. But Maher is an in your face political humorist who insults conseratives and religious people. He isn't a comedian who happens to be anti-conservative; he is an anti-conservative comedian. It's kind of like Classy when he says he doesn't hate atheists - I believe he's telling the truth. He probably doesn't hate them, except when they are talking about their atheism.

- wolf

Of course. Remember the Church Lady on SNL? "I'll say a little prayer against you" was hilarious because it was (moderately) clever and contained a grain of truth. Eddie Izzard, one of the funniest and smartest comedians working, does great bits on religion. George Carlin did funny stuff on religion.

Maher on the other hand merely insults religion, conservatives and traditional American values because he knows there will be a Pavlovian response from lefties, which he knows will translate into a certain audience (much like mold knows to grow in high humidity and cast spores when it dries up.) It's like how some comedians use profanity to get nervous laughs in lieu of actually writing something funny. At first you laugh, then you start to realize that they have nothing else.