Bill Maher Blames PC Movement and Failure to Confront Islam

[realibrad]

I'm sorry it's so hard to understand that Hillary or anyone else for that matter have a hard time measuring up to Obama in a charm-off, so hard that there's not many brain cells left over to grasp how trump won due to what he did, too.



If your reasoning and english are so good instead of specious and pedantic, why doesn't the education system agree? Leftist conspiracy?

So now you think its charm, not racism that got Trump the vote? Again, Trump move by shifting what you said originally to what you want to say now.


Agree with what exactly? You gave no indication as to as to what they would be disagreeing with.

Also, I will point out that you did it again. This is common among non native speakers. You said, "If your reasoning and english are so good...", but because the nouns are singular and not plural, you would use is and not are. You should also use "then" after your comma. If you would like to stay on this we can I guess. Seems weird to make a thing out of it though. I mean, I'm literally complementing you on your ability to speak multiple languages, but you keep fighting about grammar. Why not just stick to you not understanding that Trump did not gain 14, but 6? You seem to be losing on both sides, but there is really little reason to keep on the grammar topic.

 

[agent00f]

So now you think its charm, not racism that got Trump the vote? Again, Trump move by shifting what you said originally to what you want to say now.


Agree with what exactly? You gave no indication as to as to what they would be disagreeing with.

Also, I will point out that you did it again. This is common among non native speakers. You said, "If your reasoning and english are so good...", but because the nouns are singular and not plural, you would use is and not are. You should also use "then" after your comma. If you would like to stay on this we can I guess. Seems weird to make a thing out of it though. I mean, I'm literally complementing you on your ability to speak multiple languages, but you keep fighting about grammar. Why not just stick to you not understanding that Trump did not gain 14, but 6? You seem to be losing on both sides, but there is really little reason to keep on the grammar topic.

LOL, dumbshits are so predictable:

Btw, it was already mentioned why someone without charisma loses out in a popularity contest, but of course you'll have known that all along too after another dozen posts detailing your confusion over those words.

 

[realibrad]

LOL, dumbshits are so predictable:

So, before I go down that road, you are dropping your argument about the racist vote thing?

Trump simply managed to engage with/bring out that resentment, which flipped uneducated whites an unprecedented +14% to his side, which turned out rather important in key states.

Remember, that is what you said. It now seems like you are saying that Trump was more charismatic.

 

[agent00f]

So, before I go down that road, you are dropping your argument about the racist vote thing?

Remember, that is what you said. It now seems like you are saying that Trump was more charismatic.

I predict a future where you were right all along after figuring out an abundance of political charisma wins votes, and therefore less political charisma than Obama will get less votes.

 

[raildogg]

There is no Muslim problem. It is part of the larger propaganda to get the people supporting war against Muslim countries. Unfortunately, this propaganda has worked as the US and its partners have caused tremendous damage to countries in the Middle East region of the world. Yeah ... bringing American justice to the heathens. Like we haven't heard this BS before.

By the way, Maher's comments are just not true. The Democrats along with the Republicans are both supporters of the murder of Muslims in the MidEast. So despite the Democrat's hesitation to use certain words and language toward Muslims, they are basically on the same page as the Republicans when it comes to murdering Muslims.

 

[Moonbeam]

So now you think its charm, not racism that got Trump the vote? Again, Trump move by shifting what you said originally to what you want to say now.


Agree with what exactly? You gave no indication as to as to what they would be disagreeing with.

Also, I will point out that you did it again. This is common among non native speakers. You said, "If your reasoning and english are so good...", but because the nouns are singular and not plural, you would use is and not are.

You mean to tell me you wouldn't say, "If your reasoning and English were so good"????? But I would never say "is".

 

[Smoblikat]

So when you rant about some minority you don't like and eventually suffer some repercussion for it, which party needs a safe space more? Them from you, or you from them?

Ummm the liberals will always need a safe space more, their feelings are very easily offended.

 

[realibrad]

You mean to tell me you wouldn't say, "If your reasoning and English were so good"????? But I would never say "is".

Were is past tense and would change the conversation to the past. By using are or is, it stays in the current frame of time. That is another issue you see with non native speakers. It's not grammatically incorrect by the rules of English, but it still incorrect.

 

[Moonbeam]

Were is past tense and would change the conversation to the past. By using are or is, it stays in the current frame of time. That is another issue you see with non native speakers. It's not grammatically incorrect by the rules of English, but it still incorrect.

Were it that I knew anything, I might disagree. However, I am fairly sure that snips and snails and puppy dog tails ARE what little boys are made of or would you prefer, ARE that from which every little boy is made.

The point is that, while I personally am rather uneducated, my intuitive sense as a native English speaker is that when two singular nouns are join by an 'and' the verb that follows will be plural regardless of case. Furthermore, since a huge portion of English speakers don't know how to speak their own language properly, the incorrect way to say something becomes, over time, the correct way to say it, and all that, irregardless of how vulgarly discordant the tintinnabulation of such usage is to the better educated, and irrespective of the bellicosity that such misuse generates in the ears and sensibilities of grammar Nazis, who, thereby, seek to make you pay for it. So If I were you, right now and today, this minute, even, and I were to tell you that 'were' is always the past tense., I would have to follow that up with laughter, and I would feel impelled to laughter because, in my admittedly subjunctive opinion, an opinion, that was generated by the fact that my personal immersion into English must have taken place in an environment in which more speakers used proper speech then do today, that very fact itself has cause a shift in what is considered proper.

Folk like yourself, through no fault of your own, now surrounded by ignoramuses who have ruined much useful nuance in our language by teaching you to use it improperly have caused the rules to be changed. So the truth isn't subjunctive any more because however badly English is spoken that eventually becomes the correct way to speak. So I guess if I were you I would say if I was you, but I would still have to throw up, except in those cases where I don't notice I've caught your disease and notice it only later..

If I were a rich man, daidle deedle daidle
Daidle daidle deedle daidle dum
All day long I'd biddy-biddy-bum
If I were a wealthy man

http://www.metrolyrics.com/if-i-were-a-rich-man-lyrics-fiddler-on-the-roof.html#ixzz4QTUFcih3

 

[Jaskalas]

By the way, Maher's comments are just not true. The Democrats along with the Republicans are both supporters of the murder of Muslims in the MidEast. So despite the Democrat's hesitation to use certain words and language toward Muslims, they are basically on the same page as the Republicans when it comes to murdering Muslims.

Clinton certainly was, but not Sanders or Gabbard. Democrats I can identify with are as against regime change as I am.
I think what you need to target is the corrupt establishment leadership. 2016 was a rebuke of that, at whatever cost.

 

[agent00f]

Ummm the liberals will always need a safe space more, their feelings are very easily offended.

Christ you're simple. Speaking of which:

Were is past tense and would change the conversation to the past. By using are or is, it stays in the current frame of time. That is another issue you see with non native speakers. It's not grammatically incorrect by the rules of English, but it still incorrect.

Hey, ESL:

"If your reasoning is so good.."
"If your reasoning and english are so good.."

You really are a dunning kruger posterchild.

 

[realibrad]

Were it that I knew anything, I might disagree. However, I am fairly sure that snips and snails and puppy dog tails ARE what little boys are made of or would you prefer, ARE that from which every little boy is made.

The point is that, while I personally am rather uneducated, my intuitive sense as a native English speaker is that when two singular nouns are join by an 'and' the verb that follows will be plural regardless of case. Furthermore, since a huge portion of English speakers don't know how to speak their own language properly, the incorrect way to say something becomes, over time, the correct way to say it, and all that, irregardless of how vulgarly discordant the tintinnabulation of such usage is to the better educated, and irrespective of the bellicosity that such misuse generates in the ears and sensibilities of grammar Nazis, who, thereby, seek to make you pay for it. So If I were you, right now and today, this minute, even, and I were to tell you that 'were' is always the past tense., I would have to follow that up with laughter, and I would feel impelled to laughter because, in my admittedly subjunctive opinion, an opinion, that was generated by the fact that my personal immersion into English must have taken place in an environment in which more speakers used proper speech then do today, that very fact itself has cause a shift in what is considered proper..

as it was then.ore folk like yourself were surrounded by ignoramuses who have ruined much useful nuance in our language by teaching you to use it improperly, and the reason for which the rules have been changed. So the truth isn't subjunctive any more because however badly English is spoken that eventually becomes the correct way to speak. So I guess if I were you I would say if I was you, but I would still have to throw up, except in those cases where I don't notice I've caught your disease and I have later observed that happening.

If I were a rich man, daidle deedle daidle
Daidle daidle deedle daidle dum
All day long I'd biddy-biddy-bum
If I were a wealthy man

Read more: Soundtrack Artists - If I Were A Rich Man Lyrics | MetroLyrics

I think I was wrong. I forgot that having the two subjects joined by and makes the compound subject plural. Had he used or or nor it would have been different. Turns out I was incorrect.

 

[realibrad]

Christ you're simple. Speaking of which:



Hey, ESL:

"If your reasoning is so good.."
"If your reasoning and english are so good.."

You really are a dunning kruger posterchild.

Turns out I was wrong because of and.

Still does not change the fact that Trump did not flip, or pull 14%. I have no doubt you will not be able to admit you were wrong. I on the other hand can as exampled in my previous post.

 

[Moonbeam]

I think I was wrong. I forgot that having the two subjects joined by and makes the compound subject plural. Had he used or or nor it would have been different. Turns out I was incorrect.

I think you were wrong too but I have no urge to criticize you for it. I have observed countless times in my life that the moment I criticize somebody for something, ten minutes later I catch myself doing the same thing. You are a deeply honest person, in my opinion, and I love you for it. I garbled my post, for example, and didn't even notice it till now. I was having some fun with the words subjective and subjunctive. If I were you used to be the proper way to say if I was you and they both can imply the past and the present. If I were you right not I would do such and such or if I were you I would have done such and such...... The subjunctive is being lost in common speech today, regrettably, in my opinion.

 

[lopri]

Were is past tense and would change the conversation to the past. By using are or is, it stays in the current frame of time. That is another issue you see with non native speakers. It's not grammatically incorrect by the rules of English, but it still incorrect.

But somehow you are able to understand Trump. It seems to me your beef with incorrect use of English is either overheated, or is not really about linguistic skills.

 

[realibrad]

But somehow you are able to understand Trump. It seems to me your beef with incorrect use of English is either overheated, or is not really about linguistic skills.

Agent claimed that Trump won because he got out the racist vote. He argued that you could see that because he was able to do things like flip 14% of the white non-college vote. In no way did trump flip, turn, or convert 14%. What did happen is that he gained 6% of that demo vs Romney. I would not say that gaining 6% is flipping 14%. What I think is far more likely is that Hillary was so unpopular that she turned people away. I think the data supports this, because Hillary lost far more votes than Trump gained. Trump did not win because people liked him, he won because they disliked Hillary. I personally thought Hillary was better. I think part of what hurt her is because people like Agent are very quick to label people racist, homophobic ect. I think that is an issue with many on the left, and that turned people away from Hillary because she was guilty by association. The Left has far more people that consider themselves moderates and they do not like extremist talk. That I think is the reason they did not only not vote Trump, but they did not vote Hillary. Both sides were too extreme for them.

So, it has nothing to do with understanding Trump, and more to do with understanding how people talk to others.

 

[realibrad]

I think you were wrong too but I have no urge to criticize you for it. I have observed countless times in my life that the moment I criticize somebody for something, ten minutes later I catch myself doing the same thing. You are a deeply honest person, in my opinion, and I love you for it. I garbled my post, for example, and didn't even notice it till now. I was having some fun with the words subjective and subjunctive. If I were you used to be the proper way to say if I was you and they both can imply the past and the present. If I were you right not I would do such and such or if I were you I would have done such and such...... The subjunctive is being lost in common speech today, regrettably, in my opinion.

If people do not tell me when I am wrong, then finding the answer becomes a whole lot harder. If I was able to get the wrong answer on my own, then perhaps a hand would help. That is why I do not mind when others correct me.

 

[master_shake_]

too much fucking math!

thought i was in a GPU review thread.

 

[agent00f]

Turns out I was wrong because of and.

Still does not change the fact that Trump did not flip, or pull 14%. I have no doubt you will not be able to admit you were wrong. I on the other hand can as exampled in my previous post.

Sorry I don't have gold stars to hand out to kids who figured out how to count higher than one, no matter how proud they are.

 

[realibrad]

Sorry I don't have gold stars to hand out to kids who figured out how to count higher than one, no matter how proud they are.

I figured you could not admit you were wrong. I hope the party learns to distance itself from your narrative. I think people like you are to quick to dismiss people and or issues because you hate people. I used to believe that the left cared about people, but more and more seem to have your hated.

 

[realibrad]

too much fucking math!

thought i was in a GPU review thread.

Simple really. Trump gained 6% of the group from last election. The gap from the Republican to the Democrat increased by 14%. That is because Hillary lost 8% of the group from last election. So about 1/3 of the people that left the Democrat's side also did not vote Trump. Agent now realizes this I'm sure but cannot admit it. He will not comment on it. If he does say something he will try to say I'm too stupid to understand. He damn sure will not explain why I'm wrong. In fact, I have never seen him explain why he thinks someone is wrong.

 

[agent00f]

I figured you could not admit you were wrong. I hope the party learns to distance itself from your narrative. I think people like you are to quick to dismiss people and or issues because you hate people. I used to believe that the left cared about people, but more and more seem to have your hated.

The only reason you can't see your mistakes on everything else is because they're less obvious than counting higher than 1. Personally I don't have much patience for indignant dunces.

 

[Moonbeam]

I used to believe that the left cared about people, but more and more seem to have your hated.

Liberals identify with victims because they did not acquire Stockholm Syndrome as children. They did not suppress their hatred of their victimizers in order to avoid pain. They retain their hatred for those who made them victims and project it everywhere there is oppression, real or imagined. They are as sick with hatred as conservatives but they express it differently, actually, more objectively and with less self deception, but they still need to justify being that way. It is a bit more appropriate to hate folk who hurt people than to hate those who are hurt even though the hatred is still sick, wouldn't you say?

 

[theeedude]

So sick of secular progressive attacks on our Islamo-Christian values.

 

[realibrad]

Liberals identify with victims because they did not acquire Stockholm Syndrome as children. They did not suppress their hatred of their victimizers in order to avoid pain. They retain their hatred for those who made them victims and project it everywhere there is oppression, real or imagined. They are as sick with hatred as conservatives but they express it differently, actually, more objectively and with less self deception, but they still need to justify being that way. It is a bit more appropriate to hate folk who hurt people than to hate those who are hurt even though the hatred is still sick, wouldn't you say?

Maybe. The Right has many issues. What worries me about the Left is that they feel attacked because they disagree with other people. Disagreeing with someone is a type of attack and legitimizes violent responses. So in that case, the subjective view of being the victim allows people to become the attacker. A preemptive strike a la GWB.