Bill Maher and the "liberal Hollywood elite"

bradly1101

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Until last night I thought that that was just a moniker conjured up by the right to give all liberals the same tired, old insults they always did.

After previously seeing clips of Mr. Maher's show and John Oliver's I thought adding HBO to my cable lineup would be a good idea. Those clips were funny and poignant, not unlike The Daily Show and The Colbert Report that I have been enjoying for years (I am a liberal after all). But I saw the Maher show in its entirety for the first time last night and I finally knew what "liberal Hollywood elite" meant.

Maher was so full of himself that he was laughing at his own jokes more than the audience was. He even repeated jokes when he didn't get the reaction he wanted. His tenor was one of a man with a very large ego steeped in self righteousness.

In his panel segment he brought up the shootings of unarmed black men that seem so rampant these days. In the Walmart shooting of the guy holding an air rifle that was on sale, he made a totally inexcusable, tasteless joke about their needing a "cleanup on aisle seven." He immediately cut to his 'hostile' guest, Gen. Zinni, who had a smile on his face and quickly cut back to himself with a shameful countenance as if to say, "General Zinni, how dare you think that joke was funny." It was Maher's own despicable joke! What a douche. Gotcha journalism at its worst.

His elitism even extended to a brief segment where he insulted people who are having problems with their new iPhones. He said, "To the six people who had a problem with their iPhone 6+ bending, maybe it's because you have (read: are) such a huge ass." He was showing a picture of a very fat buttock with an iPhone sticking out of the pocket. [I never understood the attraction of the 'iLife'. Apple has repeatedly violated human rights at their suppliers in China, has so much built-in obsolescence in their products with non-replaceable batteries and no memory card slots and makes you pay through the nose for a very proprietary, closed system.] So I guess it makes sense for an elitist to defend Apple products and I'm sure he owns them all, but as a supposed defender of human rights it just doesn't wash. But I digress.

It's people like this who are anointing the unelectable (IMO) Hillary Clinton. They purport to defend the rights of women but never talk about real reasons why she would have stayed with a cheating husband (#whyhillarystayed ;-)), which doesn't engender her to women. And America hasn't elected an obese president since Teddy Roosevelt. Optics matter now more than ever. (Where are your jokes about huge asses now Mr. Maher?)

The whole show left a bad taste in my mouth for many in the political side I'm on. With people like this defending liberalism, who needs rabid conservatives? Bill Maher needs to take lessons in humility. I now understand what a liberal Hollywood elitist is, and I wish they'd stuff a sock in it.
 

MongGrel

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Used to watch him a lot.

Bill does come off as a jack ass a bit full of himself these days.

I still watch now and then some of it's funny.

John Oliver I've been enjoying.

You have to take most things in life with a "grain of salt".

Unelectable ? Really, I take it you have insider information the rest of the country isn't aware of?
 

ivwshane

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Have you seen Dennis miller? Pretty much any political comic is going to seem like an elitist.
 

MongGrel

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Lewis Black I always liked, after watching his last looks old age setting in a bit.
 

theeedude

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Don't like it, don't watch it. That's his personality, take it or leave it. He's an elitist Ivy League educated snob, but that's not a crime. But it's not sort of equivocating brain-mush that Americans have come to expect on broadcast TV, so he's on HBO for a reason.
You can watch ABC, they will protect you from Maher's views and attitude, like they did when they cancelled "Politically Incorrect."
 

inachu

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Because bill is truly neutral not bought out by any party. he might be a jew but like john stewart does not fall into the neocon war party trap or the do nothing democrat trap.
 

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I like how Jon Stewart brilliantly exposes our hypocrisy, both domestic and international, in a way only be can. I don't always agree with all of his liberal views, but he is a rare thing in America : someone who shows us the mirror. Badly needed for we are so self righteous in all the wrong we do
 
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Bill Maher is an insufferable shit; he's smug and smarmy and he's not funny enough to warrant the sheer level of conceit that surrounds everything he does. He is the quintessential narcissist. I will watch his show because he has some engaging guests who say intelligent things, but he himself is just such a fuckwit jackass that it makes me ashamed to share some of the same viewpoints as him. And, I can't stress this enough, he is a terrible comedian. He's like the Dane Cook of political comedy. It's just SHIT. Knock it off Bill.
 

bradly1101

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I like how Jon Stewart brilliantly exposes our hypocrisy, both domestic and international, in a way only be can. I don't always agree with all of his liberal views, but he is a rare thing in America : someone who shows us the mirror. Badly needed for we are so self righteous in all the wrong we do

:thumbsup:
 

Oldgamer

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Because bill is truly neutral not bought out by any party. he might be a jew but like john stewart does not fall into the neocon war party trap or the do nothing democrat trap.

LOL He is not a jew. He is a staunch atheist. Ever see his documentary called "religulous". Bill Maher is a comedian that can be tasteless in his jokes like a lot of comedians. Over all though he is pretty damned funny. So the OP is complaining after only seeing one show? jeesh sensitive much?
 

Oldgamer

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Until last night I thought that that was just a moniker conjured up by the right to give all liberals the same tired, old insults they always did.

After previously seeing clips of Mr. Maher's show and John Oliver's I thought adding HBO to my cable lineup would be a good idea. Those clips were funny and poignant, not unlike The Daily Show and The Colbert Report that I have been enjoying for years (I am a liberal after all). But I saw the Maher show in its entirety for the first time last night and I finally knew what "liberal Hollywood elite" meant.

Maher was so full of himself that he was laughing at his own jokes more than the audience was. He even repeated jokes when he didn't get the reaction he wanted. His tenor was one of a man with a very large ego steeped in self righteousness.

In his panel segment he brought up the shootings of unarmed black men that seem so rampant these days. In the Walmart shooting of the guy holding an air rifle that was on sale, he made a totally inexcusable, tasteless joke about their needing a "cleanup on aisle seven." He immediately cut to his 'hostile' guest, Gen. Zinni, who had a smile on his face and quickly cut back to himself with a shameful countenance as if to say, "General Zinni, how dare you think that joke was funny." It was Maher's own despicable joke! What a douche. Gotcha journalism at its worst.

His elitism even extended to a brief segment where he insulted people who are having problems with their new iPhones. He said, "To the six people who had a problem with their iPhone 6+ bending, maybe it's because you have (read: are) such a huge ass." He was showing a picture of a very fat buttock with an iPhone sticking out of the pocket. [I never understood the attraction of the 'iLife'. Apple has repeatedly violated human rights at their suppliers in China, has so much built-in obsolescence in their products with non-replaceable batteries and no memory card slots and makes you pay through the nose for a very proprietary, closed system.] So I guess it makes sense for an elitist to defend Apple products and I'm sure he owns them all, but as a supposed defender of human rights it just doesn't wash. But I digress.

It's people like this who are anointing the unelectable (IMO) Hillary Clinton. They purport to defend the rights of women but never talk about real reasons why she would have stayed with a cheating husband (#whyhillarystayed ;-)), which doesn't engender her to women. And America hasn't elected an obese president since Teddy Roosevelt. Optics matter now more than ever. (Where are your jokes about huge asses now Mr. Maher?)

The whole show left a bad taste in my mouth for many in the political side I'm on. With people like this defending liberalism, who needs rabid conservatives? Bill Maher needs to take lessons in humility. I now understand what a liberal Hollywood elitist is, and I wish they'd stuff a sock in it.

If you watched his show last night then you completely missed his "new rules" point about liberals being hypocrites by being just as intolerant as those in other countries concerning political correctness etc.
 

John Connor

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Bill Maher, Colbert and Stewart are all douce bags in my book. But the only thing I like about Maher was he threw a 9/11 truther out of the audience. That I found impressive. But no fucks given for the three talk sluts.
 

SlickSnake

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Bill Maher is an insufferable shit; he's smug and smarmy and he's not funny enough to warrant the sheer level of conceit that surrounds everything he does. He is the quintessential narcissist. I will watch his show because he has some engaging guests who say intelligent things, but he himself is just such a fuckwit jackass that it makes me ashamed to share some of the same viewpoints as him. And, I can't stress this enough, he is a terrible comedian. He's like the Dane Cook of political comedy. It's just SHIT. Knock it off Bill.

When I read what you write sometimes I think we are twin sons of different mothers or something. :awe:

Plus, when you post first, you save me the trouble of commenting, so there's that. :colbert:

The only thing I could add to those comments is: I think Maher's attempts at "comedy" closely reflects a lot of the upper management's viewpoints at HBO, because he is probably one of the lowest rated shows on there, and still hasn't been cancelled yet. Hell, he might even get some of his stupid ideas for comedy bits straight from the people who run HBO. :p

So "Horny HBO will love Bill long time!" then. :wub:

And HBO has cancelled shows with far higher ratings and more rabid followers than Maher's before, like Rome and Carnivale for example. And I'm still royally pissed off they cancelled Carnivale after 2 seasons on a major cliffhanger without even attempting to wrap it up. :mad:

http://www.blinkx.com/watch-video/dan-fogelberg-tim-weisberg-the-power-of-gold-live/j8rOfSs1k5eWr2cdJCHP_g
 
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MongGrel

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Bill Maher, Colbert and Stewart are all douce bags in my book. But the only thing I like about Maher was he threw a 9/11 truther out of the audience. That I found impressive. But no fucks given for the three talk sluts.
You could have just typed your name with something that made no sense and 99% of the people would have known where you were going to begin with.

Oh, wait a minute, you did.
 
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alcoholbob

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LOL He is not a jew. He is a staunch atheist. Ever see his documentary called "religulous". Bill Maher is a comedian that can be tasteless in his jokes like a lot of comedians. Over all though he is pretty damned funny. So the OP is complaining after only seeing one show? jeesh sensitive much?

In America when you are called a Jew it's usually a reference specifically to Askenazi ethnicity, rarely about the religion, of which there are many forms and sects of.
 

sandorski

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He is smarmy, but that's always been part of his comedy. I usually agree with his positions and find his jokes/comments amusing/thought provoking, until he gets on the subject of Vaccination.
 

JulesMaximus

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He's a comedian... what the fuck did you expect?

I enjoy his show. Love how he points out the hypocrisy in media and politics.
 

Strk

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Jew is used in the sense of origin, not theologically.

It is an idea from the old testament and something pushed by the antisemetic. Maher was raised Catholic and is now an atheist. But for some, it always comes back to if there's a Jew in your lineage, that's all that matters.