Bill Maher and the "liberal Hollywood elite"

[Victorian Gray]

It is an idea from the old testament and something pushed by the antisemetic. Maher was raised Catholic and is now an atheist. But for some, it always comes back to if there's a Jew in your lineage, that's all that matters.

The antisemitic? Like the "Jewish Virtual Library" web site? The one that states:

"According to Jewish law, a child born to a Jewish mother or an adult who has converted to Judaism is considered a Jew; one does not have to reaffirm their Jewishness or practice any of the laws of the Torah to be Jewish."

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/whojew1.html

 

[Newell Steamer]

Liberals in the media talking about politics; elitist idiots that know jack shit and need to shut up.

Conservatives in the media talking about politics; they are free to speak their mind - no one is forcing you to listen to them,.. why do you hate freedom of speech??

 

[Strk]

The antisemitic? Like the "Jewish Virtual Library" web site? The one that states:

"According to Jewish law, a child born to a Jewish mother or an adult who has converted to Judaism is considered a Jew; one does not have to reaffirm their Jewishness or practice any of the laws of the Torah to be Jewish."

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/whojew1.html

I said part of it comes from that, but since mosy aren't biblical scholars and they usually bring it up when it is completely irelevant (I.e. what does Bill Maher having a Jewish mother have anything to do with the thread?)

 

[Thebobo]

......I think Maher's attempts at "comedy" closely reflects a lot of the upper management's viewpoints at HBO, because he is probably one of the lowest rated shows on there, and still hasn't been cancelled yet. .....

Your whole theory is based on an assumption that you didn't bother to verify.

Real Time with Bill Maher continues to be a top performer for the network, delivering an average gross audience of 4.1 million viewers per show.


http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...-maher-renewed-for-13th-season-by-hbo/229667/

Interesting

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/john-oliver-eviscerates-bill-maher-in-the-ratings/

 

[Oldgamer]

Jew is used in the sense of origin, not theologically.

That makes no sense since he was born in America though..lol His origins are American.

 

[squarecut1]

That makes no sense since he was born in America though..lol His origins are American.

Huh?

Look, I don't care about the guy and don't care if he is Jew or from Mars. I was just pointing out the sense in which it is used.

 

[SlickSnake]

Your whole theory is based on an assumption that you didn't bother to verify.

Interesting

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/john-oliver-eviscerates-bill-maher-in-the-ratings/

What's even more interesting, Mr. Spock, is by my calculations, you are wrong. But thanks for trying to fact check me anyhow, I guess.

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/06/05/game-of-thrones-sopranos-ratings/

18.4 million average viewers beats Billy by 14.4 million viewers. And you really don't think that Billy is averaging at the bottom of the HBO production pile? In spite of what your first junk link claimed to the contrary? How about this link, regretably from last year, of the largest HBO audiences ratings broken down by series seasons. Hold on to your party hat, or whatever that is that your avatar wears, are you ready?

http://hbowatch.com/hbos-most-viewed-series/

Obviously, Billy is not listed, is he? Well, isn't that interesting. But still, his rating numbers compared to those "estimated" numbers leaves him at the bottom of the HBO pile and certainly not a "top performer". Unless "top performer", to HBO or media spin doctors publishing sensationalized hype on the web, that really means "cheap to make", inspite of the lackluster ratings. Which is a lot more accurate than "top performer".

When I had HBO I would often leave it on for hours and hours while doing housework, eating, working or playing on the PC, whatever, and at some point, Billy would invariably come on. So was I considered a viewer of Billy then? When I had a Neilsen box for a while, I guess I was sort of half assed watching him, by default. Just a little primer to put those ratings into some perspective for you.

I also just found this interesting HBO ratings nugget, since you sent me on a valiant search for Bill Maher's HBO ratings truth. It don't really say much, other than to suposedly reveal HBO isn't as ratings conscious as some networks are, which is of course, an utterly false premise to begin with. Of course they are ratings conscious. But the real hot button question, at least to me, is: Are they gaming the ratings numbers?

http://hbowatch.com/traditional-ratings-numbers-dont-matter-as-much-to-hbo/

And here is my slam dunk on you. HBO has 114 million viewers, and Billy averages 4 million a show. Those are pretty shitty ratings for HBO by any standards, looking at subscriber numbers, and that means he certainly isn't a "top performer" for them. And do you think they will make any money off his old shows on dvd/blu-ray sales? Not very likely.

http://mobile.businessweek.com/articles/2014-02-05/hbo-finally-reveals-profit-numbers-dot-take-that-netflix

Remember that I said he was probably one of the lowest rated shows on there, and that statement was originally based on knowing the Game of Thrones ratings and his ratings already or I wouldn't have said that. At any rate, all these links, especially with the last one listing subscribers, seals the deal from "probably" to "certainly" one of the lowest rated shows on there.

Thanks for clearing that little miscommunication up, though.

 

[Pens1566]

So because 114 million households get HBO and only ~4million watch Maher, that's "pretty shitty" ratings? You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

 

[SlickSnake]

So because 114 million households get HBO and only ~4million watch Maher, that's "pretty shitty" ratings? You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

I can feel the liberal butt hurt all the way over here.

Compared to their subscriber base, yea, that's a pretty pathetically low percentage of viewers supposedly regularly watching him.

And keep in mind, those stated aggregate ratings are not 4 million watching AT THE SAME TIME on ONE new episode, those are 4 million TOTAL viewers watching the same episode however many times they are repeated each week. Which is just another way they game the ratings numbers a whole lot. That might mean each showing of the same episode might get less than a million viewers, if they repeat it 4 times a week, or whatever his rerun schedual is.

He also probably often gets more viewers per broadcast on his weekly reruns than on the first showings of his new episodes, too. But with all the DVRs out there now, that may have also bumped up the first showing ratings numbers since diehard Billy fanboys would want to record a new episode as soon as it comes out, and wouldn't be recording a rerun later, usually.

At any rate, thanks for reminding me that I forgot to add those important parts of the ratings gaming going on behind the scenes of every cable show, not just Billy's.

 

[inachu]

I said part of it comes from that, but since mosy aren't biblical scholars and they usually bring it up when it is completely irelevant (I.e. what does Bill Maher having a Jewish mother have anything to do with the thread?)

gen 10:1-5 all askenazi are gentiles.

 

[SlickSnake]

And let's be perfectly frank, how many people subscribe to HBO ONLY to watch Bill Maher? Besides Billy, not very many. Or to put it another way, how many people would cancel HBO if they cancelled their sarcastic liberal God Billy? Not very damn many. So HBO isn't really gaining all that much subscriber wise by having him pretend to be funny and laughing at his own stupid jokes.

And among my conservative-ish friends and family I know that only have one premium movie channel, HBO seems to attract the more conservative types that subscribe. Which is probably one reason why HBO keeps Billy hanging around just for shits and giggles to try to round out their programing somewhat.

 

[Thebobo]

What's even more interesting, Mr. Spock,
----snip---
Thanks for clearing that little miscommunication up, though.

Sure no problem always glad to point out the truth.

Anyway he's been on the air for 13 years, just got renewed for 2 more years and has enough money to give a million dollars away, I would say he and his show have been very successful. Anyone here have a 13 year old cable show?how about a million dollars to give away? Anyone?

 

[Pens1566]

I can feel the liberal butt hurt all the way over here.

Compared to their subscriber base, yea, that's a pretty pathetically low percentage of viewers supposedly regularly watching him.

And keep in mind, those stated ratings are not 4 million watching AT THE SAME TIME on ONE new episode, those are 4 million TOTAL viewers watching the same episode however many times they are repeated each week. Which is just another way they game the ratings numbers a whole lot. That might mean each showing of the same episode might get less then a million viewers, if they repeat it 4 times a week, or whatever his rerun schedual is.

He also probably often gets more viewers per broadcast on his weekly reruns than on the first showings of his new episodes, too. But with all the DVRs out there now, that may have also bumped up the first showing ratings numbers since diehard Billy fanboys would want to record a new episode as soon as it comes out, and wouldn't be recording a rerun later, usually.

At any rate, thanks for reminding me that I forgot to add those important parts of the ratings gaming going on behind the scenes of every cable show, not just Billy's.

And by your same metric, they reported the GoT season 4 finale to be 7 million viewers. One of the most popular shows on TV. So yeah, his ratings aren't "shitty". Move the goalposts again all you want.

 

[MongGrel]

So because 114 million households get HBO and only ~4million watch Maher, that's "pretty shitty" ratings? You have no fucking clue what you're talking about.

Most don't usually watch when it's on, I usually watch him on HBOGO later in the week.

As I'm sure many do for many shows.

 

[runzwithsizorz]

Oh lighten up Francis ;
http://www.salon.com/2014/09/16/bil..._deeply_religious_and_prays_with_ann_coulter/

 

[DominionSeraph]

Can't stand listening to him. He's a liberal apologist, not a liberal. He's made a religion out of his intellect and will twist any word to serve up as an offering at its temple.

He's just a conservatard with a different god.

 

[MongGrel]

He occasionally these days has an interesting show, I watch it more or less for filler these days if I haven't watched it during the week.

He's getting as bad as what Dennis Miller turned into in reality I guess, but he's still there.

 

[theeedude]

And by your same metric, they reported the GoT season 4 finale to be 7 million viewers. One of the most popular shows on TV. So yeah, his ratings aren't "shitty". Move the goalposts again all you want.

Plus RealTime costs next to nothing to make compared to GoT, and it's a show that is already established with the audiences, so it's a low financial risk compared to trying to find the next GoT. Also, people don't want to watch GoT type shows 24x7.

 

[K1052]

I'm not sure if he's a "liberal elite" but I do know he's a full of himself unfunny prick though. He just happens to be a liberal also.

My husband likes to watch the show even though I find it insufferable. Though I do occasionally have a morbid curiosity to see the freak show of a panel he dragoons into appearing. Some real nuts from both sides of the political spectrum.

 

[SlickSnake]

And by your same metric, they reported the GoT season 4 finale to be 7 million viewers. One of the most popular shows on TV. So yeah, his ratings aren't "shitty". Move the goalposts again all you want.

And how did I move the goal post? Based on aggregate viewer ratings, the HBO promos between all the movies, series and specials get the highest viewer ratings of all. But that don't necessarily mean people are actually sitting there watching all of them, does it? Which brings up another salient point. How many of those aggregate viewers of Bill's show, will watch the same episode multiple times just because they already happen to be "watching" HBO and they are too lazy, drunk, stoned or some combination to even change the channel? Probably a good percentage.

 

[SlickSnake]

Sure no problem always glad to point out the truth.

Anyway he's been on the air for 13 years, just got renewed for 2 more years and has enough money to give a million dollars away, I would say he and his show have been very successful. Anyone here have a 13 year old cable show?how about a million dollars to give away? Anyone?

Except that you didn't point out the truth, and obviously didn't read or click a single thing I linked. You wanted to be a closed minded liberal smart ass, just like Billy, and defend Billy's ratings and liberal honor, and tried to prove me wrong after I had initially only speculated based on ratings I already knew.

Obviously, brainwashed is brainwashed. So don't turn back now, because there is so much liberalism at stake, and it seems sarcastic liberal opinions are valuable commodaties now, at least to you and HBO and a few other rabid fanboys.

It's certainly obvious around here that extreme libertards and conservatards are both pretty much suffering from the same defective brain syndrome where they absolutely can't be wrong, no matter the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

So you really think that Billy has a spare million dollars to just "give away" for free and stuff? And you don't think that is in any way related to a much needed income tax write off his investment accountant told him about, because those celebrity contracts where they dump millions of dollars in your lap at a time certainly could use a big write off, don't you think? Sorry, Mother Teresa not found.

But do let me know when he devotes 95% or more of his over 100 million in earnings over that 13 year run to charity and decides to live like a complete hermit on a paltry million a year. Then I might actually learn to respect his sarcastic brand of comedy which is really only a thinly veiled hypocrisy and arrogant superiority over everyone else, liberal or not.

 

[Ice_Dragon]

Real Time is probably one of the best shows on television and I am a huge Bill Maher fan but I don't agree with him on everything and I like that he gets people on who disagree with him. John Oliver's show is awesome as well.

 

[IronWing]

Maher is mostly funny so I give his smarmy, smugness a pass. Dennis Miller is a bitter, nasty old man. He was funny in the 80s. Not so much since.

 

[theeedude]

Except that you didn't point out the truth, and obviously didn't read or click a single thing I linked. You wanted to be a closed minded liberal smart ass, and defend Billy's ratings and liberal honor, and tried to prove me wrong after I had initially only speculated based on ratings I already knew.

Obviously, brainwashed is brainwashed. So don't turn back now, because there is so much liberalism at stake, and it seems sarcastic liberal opinions are valuable commodaties now, at least to you and HBO and a few other rabid fanboys.

It's certainly obvious around here that extreme libertards and conservatards are both pretty much suffering from the same defective brain syndrome where they absolutely can't be wrong, no matter the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

So you don't like Bill Maher?

 

[SlickSnake]

So you don't like Bill Maher?

Like is a broad word. I don't really hate him, but I certainly don't love him either. And I don't watch Bill stoned in hypnotized zombie agreement with my mouth hanging open and drool running down my chin and hang on his every word like sweet mana from liberal Heaven, while literally yelling at everyone else in the room to "Shut up, and stop laughing because I can't hear Bill!" while he is "preaching", which is really more like his comedy style. And I am seriously describing some old stoner friends I knew who acted like this when he was on.

Actually, he has had a some shows I've seen where I didn't get so annoyed at his smug, condescending attitude that I actually watched the entire show without changing the channel. But I can only take him in small doses, or that sarcastic liberal poison would surely kill me over time. And any extreme right or left wing talking head effects me the same way. I can certainly tolerate Bill for longer periods of time than watching Rush Limbaugh or Shaun Hannity.

I am just too much of a middle of the road moderate concerning most things to put up with extreme doses of liberal or conservative biased poison for very long.