Bill Gates is a great guy

SLCentral

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No matter what people say, the fact that he gives away billions to charity makes him one of the best guys on the planet, in my book. And that's coming from a Mac user :).
 

Neurorelay

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I would normally agree, but with the tax breaks he receives, he almost saves money on the deal.
 

GeneValgene

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Originally posted by: SLCentral
No matter what people say, the fact that he gives away billions to charity makes him one of the best guys on the planet, in my book. And that's coming from a Mac user :).

yep...it is the largest philanthropic fund in the world
 

Fraggable

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Bill himself might be a great guy but that doesn't keep me from hating some of the things his company does.
 

Kung Lau

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Warren Buffett thought so. He's giving Bill and Melinda a nice check for good causes.


Ka-ching!!

Watched the Lehrer interview with Bill, Melinda and Warren. Was very enlightening to see people who don't mind doing good with all that money.

 

Tom

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I think he's great too.

But something to consider is, who gave him all that money in the first place ?
 

JS80

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So he monopolizes his company, extorts companies and conducts other questionable business tactics, and he uses that money for charity and it makes him a great guy?
 

DaWhim

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Originally posted by: JS80
So he monopolizes his company, extorts companies and conducts other questionable business tactics, and he uses that money for charity and it makes him a great guy?

monopolize? US supreme court said the otherwise.
 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: JS80
So he monopolizes his company, extorts companies and conducts other questionable business tactics, and he uses that money for charity and it makes him a great guy?

Yes. The business world is completely different from the health and well being of people. It's a dog eat dog world out there in business. Bill is the face and owner of Microsoft, but realize there are many more players in it. It's not like he committed every action you stated.

Business is all about being number one. No one makes him give his money away though. He's a great guy for what he does. It doesn't matter how his company obtained its money as long as it wasn't caused through the pain of people or any other despicable act.

Not to mention that his organization is the largest in the world now. It's larger than the Red Cross! The money he donates and the donations he can achieve through his business relationships is extraordinary. They could help revolutionize the world like his company revolutionized computers.
 

luckydragon

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you can have your own opinions on how he conducts his business. There is no doubt his actions with his charity and how he has revolutionized philanthropy by having accountability is truly great. BTW there is no way his tax incentives even out the amount of money he gives.
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: JS80
So he monopolizes his company, extorts companies and conducts other questionable business tactics, and he uses that money for charity and it makes him a great guy?

:roll: LOL

how are his business practices questionable? give me an example.

The fact of the matter is other than google doing so well right now, Microsoft has always been a leader in the Computer Business (I stress business, not cutting edge technology). They are good at seeing what the end user needs and finding a solution (it may not be their own), and marketing it to the customer. It is the monopoly because it is the best at what it does.

Gates and a few other philanthropists (Like Mr. Buffet) see themselves as modern day Carnegie's. Kudos to them.

If you really want to whine about a rich family or group that is money grubbing and a cancer to society, look at the Walmart family. They have created a dynastic economic power which feeds off the poor. Gates and Buffet are at least giving back to society.
 

Kung Lau

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Originally posted by: JS80
So he monopolizes his company, extorts companies and conducts other questionable business tactics, and he uses that money for charity and it makes him a great guy?

Yes.

He saves millions of lives by his charities.

 

Tom

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"It is the monopoly because it is the best at what it does."


The problem is there is no way of knowing if you're right, is there ? How do you know if the competition would have been better, of if having competition would have made MS better, when every competitor was driven out of business, or absorbed into MS ?

 

LikeLinus

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Originally posted by: JS80
Wow, I thought 99% of ATOTers were anti-Microsoft.

Being Anti-Microsoft and Anti-Humanitarian are two completely different things. Most people here have half a brain and don't bash Bill in that aspect.
 

Linflas

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Originally posted by: Tom
I think he's great too.

But something to consider is, who gave him all that money in the first place ?

No one gave him anything. He earned that money by starting a business and producing products that consumers are willing to purchase.
 

spikespiegal

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no its just that ignorant people like to voice their opinions more often

Like the ones who wanted to force us to use Netscape instead of Internet Explorer, only to have a freeware browser not forced by a court order onto Windows challenge IE instead? Those Voices?

The problem with the perception of Microsoft is the computer industry is unfortunatley full of sniveling dweebs unable to compete in any other business, so they blame MS for using tactics that are considered 'moderate' in any other industry.

 

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Microsoft (with Gates full participation and cooperation) forced, through special pricing, several major manufacturers into deals that ensured Microsoft software went into every PC the manufacturer made. This did cause those manufacturers to not purchase alternative products. This is not fiction. These deals did take place. You believe no one was hurt by that? How can you honestly believe that? What about those companies with truly superior products that went out of business? What about their employees? What about the rest of us that ultimately had several choices taken away from us by a monopolistic company?

Microsoft (also with Gates' full knowledge) released a free web browser (a relatively low cost piece of software) in order to protect its more lucrative products. Once again, other companies, and ultimately all computer users, were harmed.

Microsoft (once again, with Gate's full knowledge) intentionally crippled Java, and launched a smear campaign to convince everyone how terribly slow Java was. Once again, this was done to protect Microsoft's most lucrative products.

These are only a few examples of how Microsoft, and therefore Gates, earned such great wealth.

Microsoft, and Bill Gates, have repeatedly harmed other companies and computer users by stifling competition. Now we're supposed to thank him for being so charitable with the money that he unfairly took away from would-be competitors, and us as end users? I don't think so.

As for the charity, everyone thinks it's so great that Bill takes such care in seeing how the funds get used. My question is, what gives him the right to decide who gets money and who doesn't? Absolute power is a very dangerous thing for one man, no matter how "just" you think that man is. All we're seeing now is that he really hasn't changed at all.
 

cheezy321

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Originally posted by: Tanclearas
As for the charity, everyone thinks it's so great that Bill takes such care in seeing how the funds get used. My question is, what gives him the right to decide who gets money and who doesn't? Absolute power is a very dangerous thing for one man, no matter how "just" you think that man is. All we're seeing now is that he really hasn't changed at all.

You know what gives him the right? The fact that he made the money ON HIS OWN and its HIS money. I sure as hell want to decide and know where my money that im GIVING AWAY goes...wouldnt u?