Bill Cosby in the spotlight looking good!

[Exophase]

The fact that Mr. Cosby won't even address the allegations levied against him shows me that there is definitely some guilt there. If someone accused you of something you didn't do, you aren't going to just sit there and hope it goes away.

Sometimes offering a denial (including a detailed argument against the accusations) gets people even more riled up against you. Like when Woody Allen or Max Temkin did it.

That doesn't have anything to do with their actual guilt or innocence, though.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Your question was in response to "If anyone deserves the benefit of the doubt, its Bill Cosby."

My answer is essentially Bill Cosbys situation in a nutshell. There is no evidence. At all. He is rich, and can be potentially extorted. The way in which women popped out claims almost daily is fairly suspicious.

If you want to include his reputation as a beloved entertainer, sure you can pop that in too if you wish. But it is obvious that answer would not be suitable for you, and you would likely refer to it as personal bias. Sorry, but that bait is too easy not to see.

Now what part of my answer did not pertain to your question again?

"If anyone deserves the benefit of the doubt, its Bill Cosby."

Why?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Because by all accounts he's a very decent man. He's not being accused of acute violence against an ex like O.J. or bat shit crazy evil like Spector, but of being a monster, over decades. Some seemingly decent men are monsters, of course, but seems to me that it's very unlikely that Cosby is. I'll need more evidence than a gaggle of "He raped me thirty years ago, and I didn't bother to report it at the time but now I deserve money."

I don't know why it's particularly difficult to believe it about Cosby as compared to anyone else. He's an actor who played a character who was trustworthy and decent; that doesn't make someone more likely to be trustworthy and decent, it just changes our perception of him because when we look at him, we don't see Bill Cosby, we see Cliff Huxtable. But that's just a character.

I mean, it's certainly possible that 20 women all decided to tell the same lie, 13 of whom decided to tell it 10 years ago in court and are repeating it now. But if it's really just a bunch of golddiggers, why haven't we seen this magnitude of complaints with any other celebrity ever? And why are they going after someone who, as you said, seems so "unlikely" to be a monster? That's like someone having the bright idea to falsely accuse Mr. Rogers of rape and 19 other golddiggers saying "Hang on, my money train just rolled in!" If you're going to pick a celebrity to falsely accuse of rape, why not go after someone that everyone already thinks is a monster? I'm in disbelief that Cosby would do this, but it's far more unbelievable that 20+ random women, some of whom are fairly well off, would all randomly tell the same lie when it's never happened before with any other celebrity.

 

[bradley]

Sorry guys. Way back in the late eighties, rumors were floating about concerning Lisa Bonet's The Cosby Show termination, while her being the show's most popular character.

Official reports had stated the firing was due mostly to unprofessional behavior and for her breaking a morals clause - filming racy movie scenes during hiatus. However allegations began spreading regarding how Lisa approached show producers regarding Mr. Cosby's sexual advances and was summarily fired.

According to rumors, Lisa threatened to sue Mr. Cosby and make those sexual advances public. One thing is for certain, almost immediately after her firing for disruptive behavior -curiously - she was given the lead role in the spinoff show "A Different World" Some believed she was given this role as payback, stopping any potential litigation or future scandal regarding NBC's hugest cash cow.

Why do I mention these rumors? Well, recently actress Michelle Hurd gave details of Cosby's sexual inappropriateness while on The Cosby Show, also claiming that one other female stand-in was drugged from the show. Hmm....

Now what ulterior motive could a successful actress have (*currently* working on tv's Law & Order: SVU, also having appeared on ER, 90210, Gossip Girl, soap operas and movies etc.) in going up against television's most popular and *powerful?*

Michelle Hurd IMDB
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0403335/


Michelle Hurd: ‘Law And Order’ Actress Says Bill Cosby Touched Her, Gossip Circles Have Known For Years
http://www.inquisitr.com/1626241/mi...les-have-known-for-years/#Ykv2AfGW3J2q4WYf.99


Michelle Hurd wrote on Facebook:

LOOK, I wasn't going to say anything, but I can't believe some of the things i've been reading, SO here is MY personal experience:

I did stand-in work on The Cosby show back in the day and YES, Bill Cosby was VERY inappropriate with me. It started innocently, lunch in his dressing room, daily, then onto weird acting exercises were he would move his hands up and down my body, (can't believe I fell for that) I was instructed to NEVER tell anyone what we did together, (he said other actors would become jealous) and then fortunately, I dodged the ultimate bullet with him when he asked me to come to his house, take a shower so we could blow dry my hair and see what it looked like straightened. At that point my own red flags went off and I told him,

"No, I'll just come to work tomorrow with my hair straightened".

I then started to take notice and found another actress, a stand-in as well, and we started talking….. A LOT …. turns out he was doing the same thing to her, almost by the numbers, BUT, she did go to his house and because I will not name her, and it is her story to tell, all I'll say is she awoke, after being drugged, vomited, and then Cosby told her there's a cab waiting for you outside.

I have ABSOLUTELY no reason to lie or make up this up!

Anyone that knows me, knows that!

Now you have a first hand account of my experience with Mr. Cosby.

For those non-believers, wouldn't Mrs. Hurd's career stand to lose far more (than could ever be gained) by recounting her tale? In fact, I viewed her extremely compelling story as the final nail in an alleged serial rapist's coffin, and yes, the childhood hero of many.

 

[Victorian Gray]

At the time, there would be physical evidence that at least sex had been consummated, and likely evidence (e.g. tearing, abrasions) suggesting that it might have been non-consensual. I can see that SOME women might have decided not to come forward, but here we're expected to accept dozens of them, as well as to ignore the fact that should Cosby decide to settle then an accusation might net them a life-changing amount of money.

Doesn't mean that these rapes didn't happen, but the mere existence of an orchestrated campaign to gain money and attention is not evidence that they did.


Because by all accounts he's a very decent man. He's not being accused of acute violence against an ex like O.J. or bat shit crazy evil like Spector, but of being a monster, over decades. Some seemingly decent men are monsters, of course, but seems to me that it's very unlikely that Cosby is. I'll need more evidence than a gaggle of "He raped me thirty years ago, and I didn't bother to report it at the time but now I deserve money."

Last I heard 26 women have come forward. How many have asked for money?

One lawsuit in 2004 that was settled out of court and, I think i read that a different woman has started one.

Plus we now have one woman who is pissed off at his lawyers and is now suing for defamation of character.

Yep, a whole bunch of gold diggers.

Not to mention how many of them seem to have had similar experiences when the allegedly tried to tell someone. They were ridiculed (pretty much like what's happening now) by lawyers, police, mangers, and even their own friends.

Maybe you should read the accounts that have been published.

Also, it's not like any of this is new. I've been hearing rumors of this since the 80's. Hell, he was using some similar shit in his standup routines back in the late 60's, early 70's which, in retrospect, seems a bit scary.

I don't know if he's guilty or not but I've seen this type of thing play out many times before and in in pretty much every case, the shit *did* happen.

Hell, we just went though something like this here in Canada with a big name radio personality.

Look up Jimmy Saville for a wonderful example of 'man in power gets away with terrible shit for most of his adult life'.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Last I heard 26 women have come forward. How many have asked for money?

One lawsuit in 2004 that was settled out of court and, I think i read that a different woman has started one.

Plus we now have one woman who is pissed off at his lawyers and is now suing for defamation of character.

Yep, a whole bunch of gold diggers.

Not to mention how many of them seem to have had similar experiences when the allegedly tried to tell someone. They were ridiculed (pretty much like what's happening now) by lawyers, police, mangers, and even their own friends.

Maybe you should read the accounts that have been published.

Also, it's not like any of this is new. I've been hearing rumors of this since the 80's. Hell, he was using some similar shit in his standup routines back in the late 60's, early 70's which, in retrospect, seems a bit scary.

I don't know if he's guilty or not but I've seen this type of thing play out many times before and in in pretty much every case, the shit *did* happen.

Hell, we just went though something like this here in Canada with a big name radio personality.

Look up Jimmy Saville for a wonderful example of 'man in power gets away with terrible shit for most of his adult life'.

your analytical thought is astounding!! Yeah why wouldn`t any of them come out and ask for money?

Could be because they are hoping things will be quietly settled under the table and no I am not talking about the women on their hands and knees under the table...

Yep 20 or 30 years after the fact......hell I am surprised that you didn't join the bunch and accuse Mr. Cosby........after ...heresay with no proof is not exactly fact......


Statute of limitations for anything legal is way out the window.....hmmmmmm
Character assassination.......you would make Darth Vader proud!!

 

[Atomic Playboy]

your analytical thought is astounding!! Yeah why wouldn`t any of them come out and ask for money?

Could be because they are hoping things will be quietly settled under the table and no I am not talking about the women on their hands and knees under the table...

Yep 20 or 30 years after the fact......hell I am surprised that you didn't join the bunch and accuse Mr. Cosby........after ...heresay with no proof is not exactly fact......


Statute of limitations for anything legal is way out the window.....hmmmmmm
Character assassination.......you would make Darth Vader proud!!

Can you think of a single other instance of 10+ people all coming forward to falsely accuse a celebrity of something looking for a payoff? If it's legitimately just a scam, why have we never seen anything like this before ever? And why target someone who everyone identifies as one of the most beloved good characters in television history? Why not go after someone like George Lucas who has 10 times as much money and strikes most people as a creepy weirdo? It takes a LOT of mental gymnastics to arrive at the "they're all liars looking for money" angle, because there are so many different things about it that make no sense. It's not impossible, but it is wildly improbable.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Can you think of a single other instance of 10+ people all coming forward to falsely accuse a celebrity of something looking for a payoff? If it's legitimately just a scam, why have we never seen anything like this before ever? And why target someone who everyone identifies as one of the most beloved good characters in television history? Why not go after someone like George Lucas who has 10 times as much money and strikes most people as a creepy weirdo? It takes a LOT of mental gymnastics to arrive at the "they're all liars looking for money" angle, because there are so many different things about it that make no sense. It's not impossible, but it is wildly improbable.

all heresay.....sorry.....innocent until proven guilty...or is that guilty until proven innocent........again your reply is all heresay....

 

[Victorian Gray]

your analytical thought is astounding!! Yeah why wouldn`t any of them come out and ask for money?

Could be because they are hoping things will be quietly settled under the table and no I am not talking about the women on their hands and knees under the table...

Yep 20 or 30 years after the fact......hell I am surprised that you didn't join the bunch and accuse Mr. Cosby........after ...heresay with no proof is not exactly fact......


Statute of limitations for anything legal is way out the window.....hmmmmmm
Character assassination.......you would make Darth Vader proud!!

Like you're doing to the 26 women right now? And people wonder why they may not have spoken up before? (although apparently, many of them did)

Google Jimmy Savile for an education as to how this can happen.

 

[Victorian Gray]

all heresay.....sorry.....innocent until proven guilty...or is that guilty until proven innocent........again your reply is all heresay....

Did he say Cosby was guilty?

 

[KK]

All I know is when that wise and beautiful woman gloria allred dies, it will be a glorious day.

 

[shortylickens]

Why?

Because he's a decent human being and up to this point its only been unsubstantiated allegations.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Because he's a decent human being and up to this point its only been unsubstantiated allegations.

You know Bill Cosby well? Been hanging out with each other for the past 40 or 50 years? Your families are close maybe?

 

[compuwiz1]

No proof at all that he gave them all a chocolate pudding pop!

No wonder he still has an audience. This is gonna blow over because nobody has a case. It's been too long and it's all based on hear-say, at this point. Once everyone figures that out, this issue will die and Bill Cosby will be doing what he does best.....making us laugh.

The ship has sailed.

 

[Victorian Gray]

No proof at all that he gave them all a chocolate pudding pop!

No wonder he still has an audience. This is gonna blow over because nobody has a case. It's been too long and it's all based on hear-say, at this point. Once everyone figures that out, this issue will die and Bill Cosby will be doing what he does best.....making us laugh.

The ship has sailed.

And Rolf Harris was a wonderful man beloved of people all over the world until he was charged and convicted in 2013 of assaulting underage girls back in the 1980's.

And then there's Jimmy Savile, an even more wonderful guy.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jun/26/jimmy-savile-sexual-abuse-timeline

Even 'nice guys' can be monsters.

 

[compuwiz1]

And Rolf Harris was a wonderful man beloved of people all over the world until he was charged and convicted in 2013 of assaulting underage girls back in the 1980's.

And then there's Jimmy Savile, an even more wonderful guy.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jun/26/jimmy-savile-sexual-abuse-timeline

Even 'nice guys' can be monsters.

Not saying, but the man will get though this.....then he will die. In the mean time, he's still funny and you will never be remembered for anything, except for leaving a stain on the internet, same as me. Now shut up, you gaytard.

 

[Jodell88]

Until a criminal investigation is launched and concluded I can't say if he's guilty or not.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Not saying, but the man will get though this.....then he will die. In the mean time, he's still funny and you will never be remembered for anything, except for leaving a stain on the internet, same as me. Now shut up, you gaytard.

Why are you being insulting? And wtf is a "gaytard" anyway and why is it supposed to be insulting?

It seems to be an insult based on a couple of things.

The first, using the unfortunate circumstance of mental deficiency that some people face as an attempt to insult someone, says something rather unpleasant about you.

The second, implying that one is gay (homosexual) and, that there is something intrinsically bad about that, also says something rather unpleasant about you.

Combining the two unpleasant points of view into one word just makes you appear an even more unpleasant person.

And, in the end, I'm not insulted. I'm simply repulsed.

 

[Orignal Earl]

In the mean time, he's still funny and you will never be remembered for anything, except for leaving a stain on the internet, same as me. .

Seriously? That's just so sad to me, but to each their own
Do you have it set up that your headstone and obit will read something like "your real name" AKA compuwiz1, and peeps will recognize that ?
All your friends and family must at least have a few memories of the real you before you become compuwiz1

edit- Today you get out there in the real world and maybe volunteer for something else and do some good that people will talk about

 

[Bitek]

I don't know why it's particularly difficult to believe it about Cosby as compared to anyone else. He's an actor who played a character who was trustworthy and decent; that doesn't make someone more likely to be trustworthy and decent, it just changes our perception of him because when we look at him, we don't see Bill Cosby, we see Cliff Huxtable. But that's just a character.

I mean, it's certainly possible that 20 women all decided to tell the same lie, 13 of whom decided to tell it 10 years ago in court and are repeating it now. But if it's really just a bunch of golddiggers, why haven't we seen this magnitude of complaints with any other celebrity ever? And why are they going after someone who, as you said, seems so "unlikely" to be a monster? That's like someone having the bright idea to falsely accuse Mr. Rogers of rape and 19 other golddiggers saying "Hang on, my money train just rolled in!" If you're going to pick a celebrity to falsely accuse of rape, why not go after someone that everyone already thinks is a monster? I'm in disbelief that Cosby would do this, but it's far more unbelievable that 20+ random women, some of whom are fairly well off, would all randomly tell the same lie when it's never happened before with any other celebrity.

This case looks eerily similar to the case of that creepy San Diego mayor: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Filner#Allegations_of_sexual_harassment

History of abuse, but no consequences as victims were attacked as liars and having ulterior motives. Eventually the dam breaks, floods of victims come in, and the abuse is finally caught.

Question is, why do so many people (esp the conservatives here) give so little credit to the victims? There is so much smoke here a fire seems likely, but the victims are attacked as good diggers, etc, and in the same sentence questioned why they didn't come forward sooner.

Why would they want to if this is the typical response? They suffer the original abuse, and then if they report it, they are abused again by the attackers defenders. No wonder so many stay silent. No wonder so many abusers walk free.

 

[fskimospy]

Nope. With 20 people all of a sudden popping out of the woodwork all at once? I think a lot of gold-diggers smelled fresh blood. And the great thing is, with such a long span of time, any likely evidence is lost.
As a result, these women don't have to product one iota of evidence to have the sheeple eating right out of their hands. And on the reverse, there is no way Cosby can "prove his innocence" (not that one should have to anyway...).
Even if he does step forward and deny the allegations, it won't do any good. No one will listen.

I'm sorry - but there's something fishy about 20 women coming forth at the same time, after 30-40 years. And some have already proven to have less than reliable stories.

They aren't all suddenly appearing. Again, this has been an ongoing issue for decades.

You have a choice. Either you think 26 separate people are lying or you think Bill Cosby is lying.

 

[yllus]

I'm really surprised that there's this much denial about Bill Cosby. The rumours about this are at least ten years old.

 

[desy]

Cosby's own handlers said they knew something stunk and all kinds of others associated with him NOT just the victims .
I hope they put him away if he's found guilty

 

[HeXen]

All that just sounds like is you're an idiot with a terrible memory.

I remember the exact date my grandpa died, which was 8 years ago. I also remember the exact date I closed on my house, almost 4 years ago.

Getting raped legitimately is an extremely traumatic event, which can change your life and your personality forever. You'll at least remember the YEAR it happened in.

I don't remember any specific dates regarding any deaths in the family. The date was something I never once thought or tried to remember since the funerals so naturally it would be forgotten at some point. For my great grandmother, I couldn't even guess the year.

It's what happens as you get older, years start to blur especially if your going back some 10-20 years or more, traumatic or not, everyone is different.

 

[soundforbjt]

You guys cannot have forgotten Herman Cain so fast have you?