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Bill Cosby charged with a felony assault

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werepossum said:
Man, I would hate to be on that jury. At this point, with the number of accusers (some quite credible) and Cosby's own admissions (which he apparently now recants) under oath, it's hard to believe he didn't do it. On the other hand, this is one of my personal pet peeves, a rape reported months later when there is absolutely no possibility of toxicology or physical evidence. So the jury has to debate whether to send a man to prison based solely on his accuser's testimony. Would not want that job.
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Juries seem to convict with entirely circumstantial evidence all the time. The defense has the easier job on paper but by the time it goes to trial there are already people who think you're guilty. By the time a prosecutor is slamming you day in and out as though you already were guilty, people get taken in by it even more. Much in the way that people are more likely to believe negative campaign ads versus positive ones, with no other evidence juries are common to believe the prosecutor when it comes to he said she said.

But with that said, while being found guilty would be a far gone conclusion for joe blow off the street in such a scenario, Cosby is rich and will have the best legal defense around.
 
Cosby's version doesn't differ much from the accuser's. He's just saying that the drug was Benedryl and that the whole thing was consentual. The hard part for the defense is going to explain away the accuser's own detail of how her relationship unfolded. Apparently an earlier encounter she claimed that he unbuttoned her pants. OK, then why after that, would she consent to a private meeting with him where he suggests she wear comfortable clothing? His high priced attorneys will have a lot of fun exploiting that one
 
werepossum said:
Man, I would hate to be on that jury. At this point, with the number of accusers (some quite credible) and Cosby's own admissions (which he apparently now recants) under oath, it's hard to believe he didn't do it. On the other hand, this is one of my personal pet peeves, a rape reported months later when there is absolutely no possibility of toxicology or physical evidence. So the jury has to debate whether to send a man to prison based solely on his accuser's testimony. Would not want that job.
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In this particular case the authorities refused to bring charges when she went to them back in 2005.

In at least a few of the other cases the reaction of the authorities to claims of assault was the same, outright disbelief and often ridicule.
 
Not sure why anyone is really worried about it at this point in time.

I guess trying to file old lawsuits to suck money they should have decades ago.

Funny they didn't file them at the time it happened.
 
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Celebrities pretty much never get convicted unless they confess. There's not even physical evidence in this case.

I'm just waiting for Emilio to get the same charges for sticking his HIV-infected pecker in unsuspecting starlets.
 
Rakehellion said:
Celebrities pretty much never get convicted unless they confess. There's not even physical evidence in this case.

I'm just waiting for Emilio to get the same charges for sticking his HIV-infected pecker in unsuspecting starlets.
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Carlos, not Emilio, Esteves.
 
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I think he realizes that win or lose, the good parts in his life are basically behind him.
 
Perhaps. But Cosby's is certainly a far greater fall from grace compared to most Americans in their golden years. I doubt he can show his face anywhere now without being eyed with disgust or distrust.
 
Victorian Gray said:
In this particular case the authorities refused to bring charges when she went to them back in 2005.

In at least a few of the other cases the reaction of the authorities to claims of assault was the same, outright disbelief and often ridicule.
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Again, when she went to them in 2005 it was to claim she had been raped in 2004.

MongGrel said:
Not sure why anyone is really worried about it at this point in time.

I guess trying to file old lawsuits to suck money they should have decades ago.

Funny they didn't file them at the time it happened.
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Never too late for justice.

Sonikku said:
Perhaps. But Cosby's is certainly a far greater fall from grace compared to most Americans in their golden years. I doubt he can show his face anywhere now without being eyed with disgust or distrust.
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True. But unlike most Americans in their golden years, he has a few hundred million dollars to cushion that long fall.
 
soundforbjt said:
Update:

Cosby will be tried for sexual assault.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/24/us/bill-cosby-hearing/
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Based on what they presented at the prelim, I doubt they have enough evidence to prove their case beyond reasonable doubt at trial. I have little doubt that Cosby has assaulted more than one woman based on the sheer number of allegations and how far back they go. However, what is true and what can be proven BRD are two different things.
 
woolfe9998 said:
Based on what they presented at the prelim, I doubt they have enough evidence to prove their case beyond reasonable doubt at trial. I have little doubt that Cosby has assaulted more than one woman based on the sheer number of allegations and how far back they go. However, what is true and what can be proven BRD are two different things.
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WHAT IS ASSERTED WITHOUT EVIDENCE CAN BE DISMISSED WITHOUT EVIDENCE! For fucks sake, when did an allegation become evidence? It is no such thing.
 
Innocent until proven guilty. Show me a conviction....until then I don't believe it. Bill is what is known as an Uncle Tom in some black circles and there are some people on the left that don't like his politics, making a perfect storm for these allegations, from people who have an agenda. What physical evidence is there and why now, after so much time has elapsed? A good attorney will create enough element of doubt for an acquittal, just by similar questions.
 
bshole said:
WHAT IS ASSERTED WITHOUT EVIDENCE CAN BE DISMISSED WITHOUT EVIDENCE! For fucks sake, when did an allegation become evidence? It is no such thing.
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I'm not sure how this relates to what I said. I said there wasn't sufficient evidence for a conviction, so what are you shouting about?
 
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