Bill Clinton met with AG Loretta Lynch privately in Phoenix

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mect

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How does any of this change the outcome of the election? It doesn’t.

I never equated the two. I am also not the one whatabouting in a necro thread.
You still don't seem to understand the concept of whatabouting. Whataboutism isn't just showcasing the other side engaging in the same behavior. Instead, it is citing behavior from the other side that is far less serious in order to justify more egregious behavior on your side. So basically, you are the one engaging in whataboutism, not the other way around. It is perfectly legitimate to point out hypocrisy of the right when the behavior is significantly worse, as is the case with Trump. It is not legitimate to try to point out hypocrisy when it is just the case of someone not being perfect.

You may not have directly equated the two, but your persistent attacks on Clinton in the context of current events lead to that conclusion.
 

Starbuck1975

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@Starbuck1975 lets stop dancing around. Should a current or former President interfere with the Justice Department or are they allowed to apply pressure to the justice department?
A President should not interfere with the Justice Department period, nor should a President pardon or otherwise influence the investigation or sentencing of federal persons of interest.
 
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A President should not interfere with the Justice Department period, nor should a President pardon or otherwise influence the investigation or sentencing of federal persons of interest.

Thank you

For the record, I’m fine with Presidents pardoning people. If the President wants to pardon Stone that’s his call & his job to deal with the fallout.
 
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Starbuck1975

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You still don't seem to understand the concept of whatabouting. Whataboutism isn't just showcasing the other side engaging in the same behavior. Instead, it is citing behavior from the other side that is far less serious in order to justify more egregious behavior on your side. So basically, you are the one engaging in whataboutism, not the other way around. It is perfectly legitimate to point out hypocrisy of the right when the behavior is significantly worse, as is the case with Trump. It is not legitimate to try to point out hypocrisy when it is just the case of someone not being perfect.

You may not have directly equated the two, but your persistent attacks on Clinton in the context of current events lead to that conclusion.
This is a necro thread about Clinton. The intent of those who revived it is whataboutism.

Your response is a well reasoned rationalization for their whataboutism.
 

Fenixgoon

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This is a necro of a thread originally about a Clinton conspiracy theory. The intent of those who revived it is whataboutism to point out the glaring hypocrisy of conservatives crying about Clinton and Lynch meeting but staying silent or justifying Trump and Barr actively interfering with an ongoing federal case.

Your response is a well reasoned rationalization for their whataboutism.

there, FTFY
 
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mect

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This is a necro thread about Clinton. The intent of those who revived it is whataboutism.

Your response is a well reasoned rationalization for their whataboutism.
No, this is a necro thread to point out the hypocrisy going on by current republicans. They are treating Trump's interactions with his Attorney General as normal behavior while previously blowing up over something that simply "looked bad" under previous administrations. It would be whataboutism if those on the right had resurrected the thread to try to justify Trump's behavior.
 

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A President should not interfere with the Justice Department period, nor should a President pardon or otherwise influence the investigation or sentencing of federal persons of interest.

Bill wasn't President at the time. He had no power. But he must have been plotting something, because reasons. So outrageous! The shit slinging was epic, and you added some yourself when this thread was resurrected. You probably don't want to compare that to the blatant interference we've seen recently from our current President.
 

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This is a necro thread about Clinton. The intent of those who revived it is whataboutism.

Your response is a well reasoned rationalization for their whataboutism.

What's it like to have the point go over your head so often?
 

Starbuck1975

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No, this is a necro thread to point out the hypocrisy going on by current republicans. They are treating Trump's interactions with his Attorney General as normal behavior while previously blowing up over something that simply "looked bad" under previous administrations. It would be whataboutism if those on the right had resurrected the thread to try to justify Trump's behavior.
Like I said, BuTrump whataboutism
 

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So basically whataboutism

whataboutism tries to use similar though not identical behavior to either justify an action or downplay its severity.

this is almost entirely the exact opposite.

the necro is not "clinton's actions were acceptable because trump was worse"

BUT

"if conservatives are so outraged by Bill Clinton greeting a former colleague, they should be absolutely shitting themselves over a sitting president and his AG interfering in an existing federal case"

edit: Hillary wasn't even there
 
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Jhhnn

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whataboutism tries to use similar though not identical behavior to either justify an action or downplay its severity.

this is almost entirely the exact opposite.

the necro is not "clinton's actions were acceptable because trump was worse"

BUT

"if conservatives are so outraged by Bill and Hillary Clinton greeting a former colleague, they should be absolutely shitting themselves over a sitting president and his AG interfering in an existing federal case"

Hillary wasn't even there.
 

ivwshane

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whataboutism tries to use similar though not identical behavior to either justify an action or downplay its severity.

this is almost entirely the exact opposite.

the necro is not "clinton's actions were acceptable because trump was worse"

BUT

"if conservatives are so outraged by Bill and Hillary Clinton greeting a former colleague, they should be absolutely shitting themselves over a sitting president and his AG interfering in an existing federal case"

Like I’ve said and as many others have said, the guy uses his own special dictionary and makes up his own definition for words.

Add whataboutism, water boy and it’s derivatives, to the list of words he doesn’t know how to properly use. We can probably add “projecting” as the next word he’ll use improperly as he has also been projecting his faults into others and I’m sure he’ll be using that term soon.
 

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Like I’ve said and as many others have said, the guy uses his own special dictionary and makes up his own definition for words.

Add whataboutism, water boy and it’s derivatives, to the list of words he doesn’t know how to properly use. We can probably add “projecting” as the next word he’ll use improperly as he has also been projecting his faults into others and I’m sure he’ll be using that term soon.
Recall his disingenuous phase a few weeks ago?
 

Starbuck1975

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Like I’ve said and as many others have said, the guy uses his own special dictionary and makes up his own definition for words.

Add whataboutism, water boy and it’s derivatives, to the list of words he doesn’t know how to properly use. We can probably add “projecting” as the next word he’ll use improperly as he has also been projecting his faults into others and I’m sure he’ll be using that term soon.
You’re projecting, waterboy
 
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TheVrolok

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This has gotta be the biggest Starbuck implosion of all time, he's just blabbering at this point. Still won't address his clear misrepresentation of whataboutism despite it being pointed out numerous times in this very thread. Wonder why.