bill clinton is a better man, but he's not as smart as obama is he?

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Anarchist420

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i dont know how he couldnt be unless im not correctly seeing the way bill clinton writes. and even if clinton did write inverted, i still think obama is smarter because obama is an NP (note: people with dominant or auxilary extraverted intuition are smarter than 99% of all people who dont have dominant or auxilary extraverted intuition) and bill clinton also had an SAT score that wasnt all that good (mine wasnt all that good either).

anyway, im not trying to bash bill clinton as bill clinton is a better man because bill clinton cares about other people and because he wasnt the most ideological president since lincoln or wilson nor was clinton hell bent on getting almost everyone dependent on the State. however, there is no doubt in my mind that obama is smarter and certainly a master at deception... clinton got caught much quicker.
 

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Moonbeam

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Perhaps your fear of deception comes from some self deception you practice on yourself. I don't obsess on being deceived because I am a nobody and have noting of value nor do I want anything. I just wish people were kinder and didn't pick on you.
 

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Obama isn't a very smart man. If he were smart he would have been plugging a full blown socialized medicine program like in Canada for America all election 08 and well into his presidency. Not because he wanted that system, but so he could have room to bargain. The way you get things done in Washington is to approach your opponent like a car salesman. You go in with a price better than you could possibly get, then you work down to your target price. If Obama had plugged a full blown socialist system the entire time, the GoP would have panicked and held up Romneycare as the solution, at which point Obama could have pretended to "grudgingly" accept what was his target all along as a compromise.

And he would have gotten his obamacare, but with the support of the party that invented the damn thing. And with both parties having a vested interest in the programs success, it would be far more likely to be successful than the game of forcing it with half the politicians spending the past few years stuck on this topic hoping it would fail. Clinton would have known better.
 

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Obama isn't a very smart man. If he were smart he would have been plugging a full blown socialized medicine program like in Canada for America all election 08 and well into his presidency. Not because he wanted that system, but so he could have room to bargain. The way you get things done in Washington is to approach your opponent like a car salesman. You go in with a price better than you could possibly get, then you work down to your target price. If Obama had plugged a full blown socialist system the entire time, the GoP would have panicked and held up Romneycare as the solution, at which point Obama could have pretended to "grudgingly" accept what was his target all along as a compromise.

And he would have gotten his obamacare, but with the support of the party that invented the damn thing. And with both parties having a vested interest in the programs success, it would be far more likely to be successful than the game of forcing it with half the politicians spending the past few years stuck on this topic hoping it would fail. Clinton would have known better.

GOP would not have supported Medicaid expansion.
 

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Perhaps your fear of deception comes from some self deception you practice on yourself. I don't obsess on being deceived because I am a nobody and have noting of value nor do I want anything. I just wish people were kinder and didn't pick on you.

Yet you posted the following:

Let me point out that you may have an obsessive compulsive disorder and are projecting the prison that is out on the government. If you deal with that your view of the world will very likely change dramatically. I used to suffer form compulsive thinking with thoughts that I would die if I broke pattern, in the particular case, closed my eyes to sleep. That turned out to be a bad situation because I had to sleep and so I knew I was going to die. But as soon as I gave in to die, the problem disappeared. There is only fear to fear. Maybe you're like me.

Maybe you should work on getting yourself healthy (ie following your doctor's advice and taking any prescribed medication)
 

Moonbeam

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Yet you posted the following:



Maybe you should work on getting yourself healthy (ie following your doctor's advice and taking any prescribed medication)

You are doing exactly what you think I am, offering advise from the point of view of sickness. You have no idea what a doctor would look like or what healthy is. What you say to me makes no difference because I know my real enemy. But you should think just a bit before trying to extending the protection of your delusional bubble to another who in any other world than the delusion you live in obviously needs help.
 

Moonbeam

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thank you:)

You came to have your sickness fed on a public forum among other sick who are only too happy to oblige you. Who would expect anything other than that you would get upset if somebody shines a light on your game. You have an addiction and block self understanding. You want to dance on the head of a pin but I want to bring you to earth. What do you avoid by playing these posting games? Your issues are meaningless but you have value as a human being.
 

senseamp

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Congress Republicans supported it right up to the point in which Obama started supporting it. Then they opposed it.

So Obama should have come out in opposition of single payer, then Republicans would support Medicare for all, and then Obama could "reluctantly" sign it. :) When comparing Clinton to Obama on health care reform, it's worth remembering that Obama got it passed, and Clinton didn't.
 
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