I'm not usually in these debates, but 9/11 would have happened no matter who was President.
Remember, the World Trade Center bombing happened under Clinton back in February of 1993. If everything would have worked according to plan the towers would have been brought down and everyone would say "Remember 2/23" and the left would be saying how it was Bush Sr's fault while the right would be saying it happened under Clinton's term.
ANYWAY...........Clinton is an excellent speaker. My parents told me in the past how they felt comforted when Reagan gave his speeches and I think I now understand what they meant...I felt the same when when Clinton was speaking tonight.
As far as who I'm voting for, I'm not sure. Going to wait for some head to head debates before I decide that.
It was the Clinton administrations fault it happened in the 1st place. Clinton is nothing but a joke and all you sheeple believe in his lies. He ruined this country and did nothing but reap the benefits of the Reagan years, Are you people this stupid? w0w!
While I agree he is a very eloquent speaker save his souther drawl I find myself differing from the ATPN concensus when I say that to me he seems just as much of a "polarizer" as he claims Bush to be...while he does appeal to many, I find that he also has a good number of very vehement detractors...listening to him speak is very easy, but so is detecting his partisanship and desire to create a rift between what Kerry stands for and what classic conservatives stand for instead of being as centrist as possible. I think if he left out his comparisons to the "other" party, and or toned them down a bit his speech would have appealed to a much broader audience, but then again I figure they don't bank on a good portion of people watching the DNC.
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Wish those with only a black & white vision would understand that!
Great listening to Bill again.
I always forget as I stopped paying attention at that point in order to persue my career and such....either way it is best that no president be allowed to serve more than their two terms in office, especially one who has a propensity for lying under oath
Originally posted by: bozack
I always forget as I stopped paying attention at that point in order to persue my career and such....either way it is best that no president be allowed to serve more than their two terms in office, especially one who has a propensity for lying under oath
I agree, Did you hear that everyone lying under oath!
I liked how he took credit for the decrease in the crime rate. The crime rate decreases while he's not in office, and he takes credit for it. Neat! 9/11 happened while he's not in office, is he going to take credit for that too? What about the economy? Will he accept responisbility for that as well? Also, he mentioned how Bush took cops off the street. Why would we need to continue putting more cops on the street if crime is decreasing?
umbrella39
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Excuse me while I step around the circle jerk... Its amazing the same ones in here who go into the 'Clinton isn't running for President' every time a conservative brings him up in a thread, are the same ones posting in here about how great he is.
Well, Clinton isn't running for President..
I also like how the focus is on 'how' he speaks for a lot of people, and not what he says. But ultimately it comes down to the argument which seems like the left can't get away from.. 'But, Bush is stupid!'.. Lets hope that wins the election for you.
Well, Clinton isn't running for President..
I also like how the focus is on 'how' he speaks for a lot of people, and not what he says. But ultimately it comes down to the argument which seems like the left can't get away from.. 'But, Bush is stupid!'.. Lets hope that wins the election for you.
Yep.. thats the important thing.. never mind him getting blowjobs in office, lying under oath, ignoring security threats.. But that boy sure sounds good! WOOOHOOO!
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GroundedSailor
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Perhaps you've forgotten that Reagan reversed his policy of tax cuts (which many like you falsely believe gave us the 'prosperity' and lead to a budget deficit which worried conservative Republicans as much as Democrats) and gave us one of the largest tax hikes in recent history!!
Paul Volcker, head of the Federal Reserve Bank at that time, raised interest rates sharply to stop the deficit from fuelling inflation and the result was the 'Reagan recession'. Even Bush Sr called it 'voodoo economics' before he became Reagans vice president.
Reagan was a nice man but lets keep his policies in perspective.
umbrella39
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Jealous? Too bad your guy can't speak any where near as well or some of us might actually start to believe his bull$hit.
Maybe next time...
Where did we pick up the sick little troll?
Best Clinton remark "They need a divided America, we don't"
Best Clinton remark "They need a divided America, we don't"
This 'fix' tactic detracts from the point you are trying to make and disgraces the credibility you should be accumulating here.
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