Biggest playoff chokers?

[thepd7]

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: Syringer
When you think of the playoffs and its chokers, what name comes to mind first?

That is, guys that are unstoppable in the regular season, but once the real stuff comes around, he's nowhere to be found..

We have.. Mr. April Alex Rodriguez, the man who was fired after a 14-2 season Mary Shot, the greatest regular season QB Dan Marino..or, someone else?

You mean the A-Rod that pretty much single handedly beat Minnesota in the 2004 ALDS or the only player that could hit the Yankees in the 2000 ALCS?

Or the A-Rod that brought the Yankees back within three runs with his solo HR this postseason?

Please stop blindly accepting everything you read in the media.

LOL have you looked at his average for his last 20-30 postseason games? It's horrid. In New York he hasn't done crap in the playoffs, that's a fact. Don't defend ARod especially for this season, 1 HR does not a postseason make.

ARod's 2007 postseason stats:
4/15 (3 singles, 1 HR). 1 RBI. ONE RBI. Let me say that again, he stranded 4 runners in his first 6 ABs (which he went 0-6 in). So, just to clarify, ONE RBI. The man got ONE decent hit when his team REALLY needed it. 2 walks, 6 strikeouts.

So in closing. I win.

edit: 24/94 since with the yankees. That's .256. For one of the supposed best players in the game that's not good. And the only reason they stats aren't MUCH worse is the Minnesota series you mentioned. Boston? .258. The next year, LAA? .133. The next year, Detroit? .071. Seriously, a guy bats less than .260 averaged over 4 postseasons and you think he's not a choker. That's really rich.

I don't accept what I read in the media, but I do accept the facts. And if you watched the games at all you would have seen at least 3 times when ARod struck out in HUGE spots where his team really needed a hit.

Maybe it's time for you to stop blindly opposing what you hear in the media.

 

[Spineshank]

Originally posted by: spacejamz
Marty Turco (Dallas Stars goalie) has always kicked ass in the regular season but then chokes in the playoffs...

Yea cause he posted 3 shutouts last post season. The Stars choke, not him.

 

[Anubis]

2004 NYY all players included

 

[xdreadpiratedoug]

Steve Nash
Kevin Garnett
Dirk Nowitzki
Gilbert Arenas
LeBron James

Those are currently the biggest chokers in the NBA.

 

[BeauJangles]

I'd go with the Oakland Athletics. Until last year they had lost in the opening round of the playoffs seven appearances in a row (I believe).

 

[ElFenix]

houston oilers. thankfully, the team folded and we got a new one.

 

[dennilfloss]

Some might say Fran Tarkenton but I think the team let him down each time we made it to the Superbowl.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: Syringer
When you think of the playoffs and its chokers, what name comes to mind first?

That is, guys that are unstoppable in the regular season, but once the real stuff comes around, he's nowhere to be found..

We have.. Mr. April Alex Rodriguez, the man who was fired after a 14-2 season Mary Shot, the greatest regular season QB Dan Marino..or, someone else?

You mean the A-Rod that pretty much single handedly beat Minnesota in the 2004 ALDS or the only player that could hit the Yankees in the 2000 ALCS?

Or the A-Rod that brought the Yankees back within three runs with his solo HR this postseason?

Please stop blindly accepting everything you read in the media.

LOL have you looked at his average for his last 20-30 postseason games? It's horrid. In New York he hasn't done crap in the playoffs, that's a fact. Don't defend ARod especially for this season, 1 HR does not a postseason make.

ARod's 2007 postseason stats:
4/15 (3 singles, 1 HR). 1 RBI. ONE RBI. Let me say that again, he stranded 4 runners in his first 6 ABs (which he went 0-6 in). So, just to clarify, ONE RBI. The man got ONE decent hit when his team REALLY needed it. 2 walks, 6 strikeouts.

So in closing. I win.

edit: 24/94 since with the yankees. That's .256. For one of the supposed best players in the game that's not good. And the only reason they stats aren't MUCH worse is the Minnesota series you mentioned. Boston? .258. The next year, LAA? .133. The next year, Detroit? .071. Seriously, a guy bats less than .260 averaged over 4 postseasons and you think he's not a choker. That's really rich.

I don't accept what I read in the media, but I do accept the facts. And if you watched the games at all you would have seen at least 3 times when ARod struck out in HUGE spots where his team really needed a hit.

Maybe it's time for you to stop blindly opposing what you hear in the media.

i wonder why ARod got only 1 RBI with 4 hits, OH Yea, I know why, the WHOLE YANKEES offense choked, particularly a SS name Derek Jeter. ya, i said it, Jeter was a BIG part of the reason the Yankees lost. a much bigger part than ARod. ARod contributed.

how many KEY DP did jeter hit into? what was his PS batting average, 3 / 16.

as Mike and the Mad dog said, there were several Goats to Yankess game 4 lose and ARod wasn't one of them. Wang, 2 horrible pitching performances was #1, and Jeter was #2. several big post season errors, .176 BA and rally killing OUT after rally killing out including several KEY double play outs.

also, ARods post season average of .258 is actually not that bad. it's not good, but it's better than what sheff put up during his tenure with the yanks. has matsui done any better?

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Cubs, period. Been a lifelong fan, and disappointed for 42 years now, 1908, last world series win, 1945, last ws appearance, nobody chokes it better..

 

[PlatinumGold]

btw, your poll completely sucks, there are so many other players / teams that should be up there. sergio garcia comes to mind, the best player never to win a major. he's choked away quite a few too.

 

[Sinsear]

Buffalo Bills

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: Phokus
Peyton Manning. Even though he did win a SB, he was horrible in the playoffs (just like every playoffs he's been in) and tried his best to lose. If it wasn't for his defense stepping up last year and carrying the team, he would be ringless still.

:laugh:

Seriously? Spoken like a truly irrational Patriots fan.

 

[tfinch2]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: Phokus
Peyton Manning. Even though he did win a SB, he was horrible in the playoffs (just like every playoffs he's been in) and tried his best to lose. If it wasn't for his defense stepping up last year and carrying the team, he would be ringless still.

:laugh:

Seriously? Spoken like a truly irrational douchebag Patriots fan.

QFT

 

[GDaddy]

Originally posted by: dennilfloss
Some might say Fran Tarkenton but I think the team let him down each time we made it to the Superbowl.

I would say the Vikings as a whole. 0-4 for super bowls, and then you add on the Giants and the Falcons playoffs a few years ago, when i read the topic, I instantly thought of the Vikings.

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: Phokus
Peyton Manning. Even though he did win a SB, he was horrible in the playoffs (just like every playoffs he's been in) and tried his best to lose. If it wasn't for his defense stepping up last year and carrying the team, he would be ringless still.

:laugh:

Seriously? Spoken like a truly irrational Patriots fan.

Yeah, I was angered when NE let that game slip, but the Colts and Manning really deserved a win after all they'd been through. It's just a shame they had to go through NE to do it .

 

[RapidSnail]

Originally posted by: GDaddy

Originally posted by: dennilfloss
Some might say Fran Tarkenton but I think the team let him down each time we made it to the Superbowl.

I would say the Vikings as a whole. 0-4 for super bowls, and then you add on the Giants and the Falcons playoffs a few years ago, when i read the topic, I instantly thought of the Vikings.

How about the Bills getting to the Super Bowl four times in a row and walking away winless?

 

[GDaddy]

True, but you throw in MN 41-7 defeat to Giants, and after a 15-1 season the loss to the falcons at home the next year. And if i remember right in 3 of the SB the Vikes were the favorite, i dont think the bills were ever one. i am also from MN so it hits closer to home.

 

[RagingBITCH]

Rivera. Period.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: MrChad

Originally posted by: Phokus
Peyton Manning. Even though he did win a SB, he was horrible in the playoffs (just like every playoffs he's been in) and tried his best to lose. If it wasn't for his defense stepping up last year and carrying the team, he would be ringless still.

:laugh:

Seriously? Spoken like a truly irrational Patriots fan.

you dont have to be a rabis NE fan or even a NE fan at all to realize that the NFL handed that game to the Colts

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: Anubis
you dont have to be a rabis NE fan or even a NE fan at all to realize that the NFL handed that game to the Colts

But it certainly makes that paranoid conspiracy-theory pill easier to swallow.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Turfzilla

Originally posted by: sao123
Bill Cowher

The same Bill Cowher who won a SB?

/ban

10 playoff appearances out of a possible 15... Overall playoff record 12W-9L...

If you omit 2005 (4-0) SB win...
Bills playoff record speaks for itself... an abysmal 8W-9L over the remaining 9 seasons.

Overall
SB 1-1
AFC Champ 2-4
WC/Div Round 9-4


Sorta reminds me of the Bills in the early 90's....

 

[Yreka]

Originally posted by: RapidSnail

Originally posted by: GDaddy

Originally posted by: dennilfloss
Some might say Fran Tarkenton but I think the team let him down each time we made it to the Superbowl.

I would say the Vikings as a whole. 0-4 for super bowls, when i read the topic, I instantly thought of the Vikings.

How about the Bills getting to the Super Bowl four times in a row and walking away winless?

Those are the 2 I thought of.. Not to mention all those seasons a few years back where the vikes dominated the reg season with Culpepper and Moss, then choked out in the playoffs.

 

[Syringer]

Some choices have been added..

A few notes--it's about players here mostly, not teams as a whole.

And for the person(s) defending A-Rod..

If this was the last time Alex Rodriguez wore the uniform of the New York Yankees, and he did his flat best to leave open that possibility when he spoke to the media on Monday night, then his final 59 postseason at-bats as a Yankee will be one of the more confounding, odds-defying trends in the history of great players.

In those 59 at-bats, Rodriguez:

? went 8-for-59, a .136 batting average.

? batted with a total of 38 runners on base and left every single one of them on base. Not one did he drive in. He went 0-for-27, including 11 strikeouts, in at-bats with runners on.

? went 0 for 12 with a total of 17 runners in scoring position, driving in none of them.

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: thepd7

Originally posted by: chuckywang

Originally posted by: Syringer
When you think of the playoffs and its chokers, what name comes to mind first?

That is, guys that are unstoppable in the regular season, but once the real stuff comes around, he's nowhere to be found..

We have.. Mr. April Alex Rodriguez, the man who was fired after a 14-2 season Mary Shot, the greatest regular season QB Dan Marino..or, someone else?

You mean the A-Rod that pretty much single handedly beat Minnesota in the 2004 ALDS or the only player that could hit the Yankees in the 2000 ALCS?

Or the A-Rod that brought the Yankees back within three runs with his solo HR this postseason?

Please stop blindly accepting everything you read in the media.

LOL have you looked at his average for his last 20-30 postseason games? It's horrid. In New York he hasn't done crap in the playoffs, that's a fact. Don't defend ARod especially for this season, 1 HR does not a postseason make.

ARod's 2007 postseason stats:
4/15 (3 singles, 1 HR). 1 RBI. ONE RBI. Let me say that again, he stranded 4 runners in his first 6 ABs (which he went 0-6 in). So, just to clarify, ONE RBI. The man got ONE decent hit when his team REALLY needed it. 2 walks, 6 strikeouts.

So in closing. I win.

edit: 24/94 since with the yankees. That's .256. For one of the supposed best players in the game that's not good. And the only reason they stats aren't MUCH worse is the Minnesota series you mentioned. Boston? .258. The next year, LAA? .133. The next year, Detroit? .071. Seriously, a guy bats less than .260 averaged over 4 postseasons and you think he's not a choker. That's really rich.

I don't accept what I read in the media, but I do accept the facts. And if you watched the games at all you would have seen at least 3 times when ARod struck out in HUGE spots where his team really needed a hit.

Maybe it's time for you to stop blindly opposing what you hear in the media.

ARod's stats in the postseason with the Yankees:

.245/.372/.436 for a .808 OPS which is pretty good considering in the postseason you are facing much better pitching than you do in the regular season.

And if you're just talking about this series with the Indians, let me ask you who "choked' more?

ARod: 4/15, 1 HR, 2 BB, 0 GIDP
Jeter: 3/17, 0 HR, 0 XBH, 3 GIDP

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Too few people here watch basketball. That's why the basketball threads are always empty while one NFL game can attract like 500 posts. It's Dirk. ARod's postseason hasn't been that great but honestly a player's performance in like 2 bball games is effectively equivalent to a player's performance in an entire MLB playoffs season. How many times have the Mavs been to the playoffs in the past 5 years? Too many. Dirk just doesn't step up. He was decent in the 06 playoffs but once again he choked near the end. Look at how he fared against the Warriors. Nothing.