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Syringer

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Syringer
But then 10^80 takes up less characters than "Graham's number"
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Do you realize that Graham's number is not 10^80, right?

It's "roughly 10 raised to a number that has 10^80 zeroes"

10^80 is the number of zeroes the number has that you're raising 10 to...

So if you were to write that out, it wouldn't be 10^80, it would be

10^X

Where X is a number with 10^80 zeros

"Graham's number" is 15 characters?

In those 15 characters you get

10^100000000000000000000000000000.......000

The number of zeroes there that I omitted is roughly 10^80
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Or..10^10^80?
 
jpeyton

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Syringer
But then 10^80 takes up less characters than "Graham's number"
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Do you realize that Graham's number is not 10^80, right?

It's "roughly 10 raised to a number that has 10^80 zeroes"

10^80 is the number of zeroes the number has that you're raising 10 to...

So if you were to write that out, it wouldn't be 10^80, it would be

10^X

Where X is a number with 10^80 zeros

"Graham's number" is 15 characters?

In those 15 characters you get

10^100000000000000000000000000000.......000

The number of zeroes there that I omitted is roughly 10^80
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Or..10^10^80?
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No I don't think you get it. The number itself has 10^80 zeroes.

For example, if I wanted to raise 10 by a number that had 10^2 zeroes, it would be:

10^10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

If I wanted to raise it by a number that had 10^3 zeroes, I would have to type out 1000 zeroes.

10^80 zeroes is...mind boggling.
 
Jeff7

Jeff7

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Jan 4, 2001
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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: Jeff7
"Biggest number in existence"

What do I win?


Of course, since this is written on a notecard, and not typed, why waste characters on the ^ symbol?
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Because your notation is meaningless. Google "knuth's up arrow notation". Those numbers are incredibly large. Far far far beyond comprehension. To scale, if a googleplex is the dot on top of this letter: i
Then what Browntown answered with is far far far far greater than the size of the universe. In fact, if the size of the universe were now scaled down to the size of the dot on that "i", and that dot scaled down accordingly to an incomprehensibly small dot, then Browntown's answer is still far far far larger.

If you repeated this process continuously for as many atoms as there are in the universe, Browntown's answer is STILL larger.
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Browntown was using factorials, right? I hadn't ever seen those until last year. :eek:

Either way, I'm covered with my "Biggest number in existence" answer, because it's still bigger than anything posted in this thread thus far. :p
 
Inspector Jihad

Inspector Jihad

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Inspector Jihad's number. I cant even tell you tiny brained idiots how big it is cause you'd probably die from trying to comprehend it.
 
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Syringer

Lifer
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Originally posted by: Syringer
But then 10^80 takes up less characters than "Graham's number"
Click to expand...

Do you realize that Graham's number is not 10^80, right?

It's "roughly 10 raised to a number that has 10^80 zeroes"

10^80 is the number of zeroes the number has that you're raising 10 to...

So if you were to write that out, it wouldn't be 10^80, it would be

10^X

Where X is a number with 10^80 zeros

"Graham's number" is 15 characters?

In those 15 characters you get

10^100000000000000000000000000000.......000

The number of zeroes there that I omitted is roughly 10^80
Click to expand...

Or..10^10^80?
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No I don't think you get it. The number itself has 10^80 zeroes.

For example, if I wanted to raise 10 by a number that had 10^2 zeroes, it would be:

10^10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

If I wanted to raise it by a number that had 10^3 zeroes, I would have to type out 1000 zeroes.

10^80 zeroes is...mind boggling.
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10^10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

can also be written as

10^10^100 (which I believe is equivalent to 10^(10^100), similarly Graham's # can be written as 10^10^80--which is still considerably smaller than 99^99^99--which uses the same number of chars.
 
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Syringer

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Aug 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: Kyteland
To steal one from xkcd:

A(g64,g64)

I didn't even have to use 30 characters and I'm beating everyone in the thread.
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I call you that and raise you...

A(g64,(A(g64,(A(g64,g64!!)))))

Or...A(g64!!,(A(g64,(A(g64,g64)))))

Which one is bigger?

Anyone want to punch that into Matlab ;)
 
Leros

Leros

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Jul 11, 2004
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Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: Kyteland
To steal one from xkcd:

A(g64,g64)

I didn't even have to use 30 characters and I'm beating everyone in the thread.
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I call you that and raise you...

A(g64,(A(g64,(A(g64,g64!!)))))

Or...A(g64!!,(A(g64,(A(g64,g64)))))

Which one is bigger?

Anyone want to punch that into Matlab ;)
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Somebody should submit the job to a supercomputer. I would do it, but I don't want to get in trouble for wasting campus resources. And I have no idea earthly idea how long that would take.
 
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Syringer

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
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Originally posted by: Leros
Originally posted by: Syringer
Originally posted by: Kyteland
To steal one from xkcd:

A(g64,g64)

I didn't even have to use 30 characters and I'm beating everyone in the thread.
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I call you that and raise you...

A(g64,(A(g64,(A(g64,g64!!)))))

Or...A(g64!!,(A(g64,(A(g64,g64)))))

Which one is bigger?

Anyone want to punch that into Matlab ;)
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Somebody should submit the job to a supercomputer. I would do it, but I don't want to get in trouble for wasting campus resources. And I have no idea earthly idea how long that would take.
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Ha, I am quite curious now how big that is..if you were to just type it in a simple font like this, I bet that number would at least reach from here to another galaxy.
 
Kyteland

Kyteland

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Originally posted by: Chronoshock
Originally posted by: Kyteland
To steal one from xkcd:

A(g64,g64)

I didn't even have to use 30 characters and I'm beating everyone in the thread.
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I already posted that on the first page you reposter
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You can't seriously expect me to read the thread before posting, can you?

;)
 
TuxDave

TuxDave

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Oct 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: jpeyton
Originally posted by: Syringer

Or..10^10^80?
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No I don't think you get it. The number itself has 10^80 zeroes.

For example, if I wanted to raise 10 by a number that had 10^2 zeroes, it would be:

10^10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

If I wanted to raise it by a number that had 10^3 zeroes, I would have to type out 1000 zeroes.

10^80 zeroes is...mind boggling.
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:laugh: So... 10^(10^80) has how many zeros then?
 
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