biggest fail in PC gaming industry

[Homerboy]

They just need to resurrect Mythos somehow

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

So, is Flagship Studios dead at this point due to the epic fail?

 

[exar333]

Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
Daikatana is still the king.

When I think of epic fail, three titles come to mind:

1. ET - what other game has it's own landfill!!??
2. Earth64 - A "launch" title for the N64 that was "still in development" through 2002...LOL
3. Diakatana - epic fail for all the failed promises and delays in the game

 

[Baked]

Coming out w/ a MMORPG when WoW was running in full throttle was a horrible decision. WoW is still running strong and will get even stronger w/ the release of their 2nd expansion WoTLK in a couple of weeks. I think many people quit WAR after the abysmal PvE offering and went back to WoW.

 

[cyphilis]

I don't know, but didn't Auto Assault last less then a year as well? I went out and bought the special edition (like 65 bucks) the day it came out, expecting a replacement for the also short lived Motorcity Online. AA was a piece of junk and would of been fun if more people would of bought the game. It sucks roaming a post-apacolytic wasteland seeing 1 maybe 2 other people over a couple hundred miles of highway.
I played the first free 30 days of it, and didn't ever pick it up again. It seems like it was less then 6 months later I went to the site to see if anything had changed, and it said that the game was closed.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Aflac
Just got an email from Hellgate (I signed up for the beta way back and forgot about it).

Dear $Account{AccountName},

Please be advised that NAMCO BANDAI Games America Inc. will continue to support customers of Hellgate: London with online server support and play through January 31, 2009. In a further gesture of support, we will provide this server support free of charge to all fans and players of the game up until the shut down date.

All of us at NAMCO BANDAI Games America Inc. appreciate your enthusiasm for Hellgate: London and look forward to providing you with future entertainment products.

For questions regarding the shut down or additional information about Hellgate: London, please visit the game?s official website at www.hellgatelondon.com.

Thanks you,
Namco Bandai Games America Inc.

Does anyone still play Hellgate? I thought it was pretty big news when it came out but I haven't heard anything about it in quite some time.

Yes .. i am playing it ever since i got that email
- i was in the beta too

Guess what ?
---They fixed it !
Dx10 looks great and runs better fully maxed out at 19x12 than DX9c on a GTX280; there are issues with 4870 and DX10
.... ALL the subscriber content is free!!

Everything but the Stonehenge expansion is great; almost bug-free. I am playing it on Nightmare. Unfortunately, Stonehenge is as buggy as the original Hellgate was. ALL the subscriber content is free including guild creation and Hardcore mode!! i am playing Stonehenge - which is outdoors in clear sunlight - as a Level 35 Engineer and having a blast. i even wrote a little review on it as you can play it on 56K dial-up!; well, again, except for Stonehenge; it's buggy and pretty tough on dial-up, so i use WildBlue satellite and get by with the nasty ping.

Flagship is mostly gone and sold Mythos and Hellgate and Namco is closing it down. A new company bought it and all but the Far East will be stopped from playing it at the end of Jan; anyone with an account can play till then. Of course, the SP still works and if you are in Japan or Korea, you can play "Hellgate: Seoul, The Second Invasion"
- my Avatar is MaximusRex if anyone still plays and wants to team up for "The Wild" .. impossible for a SP to play in

Merry Xmas!

. . . and i will see you in hell

:evil:



- in before the gate locks :Q

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: andylawcc

Threads on epic failure merged.

PC Gaming Moderator
KeithTalent

lolz, epic x2.

Merged fail thread Merged??

ummmm...fail?

 

[Borealis7]

fail or not, there are some legal issues to consider here. I'm sure some people have bought the game with intent to play it online and i think this was one of the games major selling points. now that online play isnt working anymore isnt it a "breach of contract" between the developer and the user?

well, probably not since the EULA could be formulated in a way that unloads any responsibility from the company but lets assume for a second that it doesnt:
if the company doesnt uphold its obligations from the "contractual agreement" which is a customer buying a game (the company has to give technical support, maintain a server for online play, etc) then does it mean the user is also exempt of the EULA? can the user now make copies of the game? :evil:

its like: "Bitch screwed me, i'm 'onna get 'er good."

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Borealis7
fail or not, there are some legal issues to consider here. I'm sure some people have bought the game with intent to play it online and i think this was one of the games major selling points. now that online play isnt working anymore isnt it a "breach of contract" between the developer and the user?

well, probably not since the EULA could be formulated in a way that unloads any responsibility from the company but lets assume for a second that it doesnt:
if the company doesnt uphold its obligations from the "contractual agreement" which is a customer buying a game (the company has to give technical support, maintain a server for online play, etc) then does it mean the user is also exempt of the EULA? can the user now make copies of the game? :evil:

its like: "Bitch screwed me, i'm 'onna get 'er good."

the dev is gone/bankrupt and the IP was purchased and will be only in the Far East; the publisher is keeping it going until Jan 31st when the new owner takes possession and shuts the USA and European servers down


-if you want details of the legal stuff follow the link in my sig; you will get all the nitty-gritty links

i am having a blast with it now .. almost Level 36 on 'Nightmare' Difficulty .. about to get the last "essence" to enter the locked areas of Stonehenge Expansion
- at least ALL the subscriber content is free .. i will be done by Jan 31st ..
:laugh:

 

[pwnagesarus]

I've only played the demo and I found it to be a letdown, especially when it was made by the same guys who made Diablo & Diablo II (Or so I've heard). =/

 

[Raduque]

Originally posted by: CVSiN
Naw.. epic fail was EA/Westwood's Earth and Beyond MMO that basically failed out of the gate. or the Sims Online or even Motor City Online... all closed in their infancy

HG:L was horrible it was all hype and no substance I cant beleive it survived this long.

Motor City Online lasted for ~4 years. I wouldn't exactly call that it's infancy. It was crippled due to not being built as an MMO from the ground up. It could've been so much more.

As for Hellgate, I enjoyed the SP demo. Never bothered with MP and never bought it because people who didn't pay the subscriber fee were treated like bastard step-children and MAYBE given content, when the devs "feel like it".

Maybe I'll buy a copy for $10 now that they epic failed.

 

[vhx]

Originally posted by: CVSiN
Naw.. epic fail was EA/Westwood's Earth and Beyond MMO that basically failed out of the gate. or the Sims Online or even Motor City Online... all closed in their infancy

HG:L was horrible it was all hype and no substance I cant beleive it survived this long.

I never heard much from HG:L. It was hyped a lot, then after it came out, barely heard much.

Earth and Beyond was destined for fail from the start. Only reason EA ran it was because it was in their Westwood contract to keep it up for 2 years. They didn't even bother to improve it. Last I checked (like 5 years ago) they had like 2-3 patches before it shut down. I think they advertised once, when it came out. Lol. Sad.

I did hear some people are creating an emulator for it though.

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: ExarKun333

Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
Daikatana is still the king.

When I think of epic fail, three titles come to mind:

1. ET - what other game has it's own landfill!!??
2. Earth64 - A "launch" title for the N64 that was "still in development" through 2002...LOL
3. Diakatana - epic fail for all the failed promises and delays in the game

Never heard of Earth64. Do you mean Earthbound 64? It was canned way before 2002.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Raduque

Originally posted by: CVSiN
Naw.. epic fail was EA/Westwood's Earth and Beyond MMO that basically failed out of the gate. or the Sims Online or even Motor City Online... all closed in their infancy

HG:L was horrible it was all hype and no substance I cant beleive it survived this long.

Motor City Online lasted for ~4 years. I wouldn't exactly call that it's infancy. It was crippled due to not being built as an MMO from the ground up. It could've been so much more.

As for Hellgate, I enjoyed the SP demo. Never bothered with MP and never bought it because people who didn't pay the subscriber fee were treated like bastard step-children and MAYBE given content, when the devs "feel like it".

Maybe I'll buy a copy for $10 now that they epic failed.

The Hellgate demo was *awful* and probably the single biggest turn-off to the game
- unfortunately, the subscriber content was "too little, too late" .. and buggy to boot

IF you do have a cheap Copy of Hellgate; they FIXED it .. and you can play the FREE subscriber content now
- 'till Jan 31st, 09 ... i am Level 36 Engineer [now] and heading for Stonehenge on Nightmare Difficulty!
[i just got there - last night - for the 2nd time round; damn it is *hard*]


the biggest epic fail may well be Age of Conan .. it starts *awesome* .. but evidently runs out of high-level content, so i have heard; so i bought it myself after playing the trial - the full-retail game with 30 days included for $10 at B&M Target

 

[PingSpike]

Until another game releases advertising in which the creator promises to "make you his bitch" it will not be possible to eclipse Diakatana.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Originally posted by: PingSpike
Until another game releases advertising in which the creator promises to "make you his bitch" it will not be possible to eclipse Diakatana.

A friend of mine bought the n64 version for like .50 cents not knowing what it was and when I found out I laughed at him and told him he was completely ripped off. He was confused then played it for like 30 seconds and agreed.

 

[ibex333]

sry.. misread

 

[Elcs]

I cant believe people are still bashing this game after only playing the demo. As it was stated in every single HG:L thread, the demo was awful and the beta was "ok".

I bought HG:L on its release, had some frustrationg and some good fun. Played it in DX9 because DX10 made my old 512mb 8800GT cry.

Going back about 4 months, I decided that this was a title to try out again. In DX10, this game looks very polished (if you discount repetitive textures) and the difference between DX9 and DX10 is night and day. My 512mb HD4870 played it at 1920x1080 with most settings at highest quite admirably and was completely playable.


Hellgate:London deserves criticism for the worst demo launch ever and for wasting so much potential... However, it deserves plaudits for probably being the best implementation of DX10 in terms of graphical differences and performance optimisations.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Elcs
I cant believe people are still bashing this game after only playing the demo. As it was stated in every single HG:L thread, the demo was awful and the beta was "ok".

I bought HG:L on its release, had some frustrationg and some good fun. Played it in DX9 because DX10 made my old 512mb 8800GT cry.

Going back about 4 months, I decided that this was a title to try out again. In DX10, this game looks very polished (if you discount repetitive textures) and the difference between DX9 and DX10 is night and day. My 512mb HD4870 played it at 1920x1080 with most settings at highest quite admirably and was completely playable.


Hellgate:London deserves criticism for the worst demo launch ever and for wasting so much potential... However, it deserves plaudits for probably being the best implementation of DX10 in terms of graphical differences and performance optimisations.

Are you playing the free subscriber content now?
- "Stonehenge" expansion is a little buggy but not nearly as bad as last year's early release bugs
---i could not get DX10 to run on any of my 4870s. Only DX9c; so i am playing Hellgate's DX10 pathway on my GTX280 with everything fully maxed out at 19x12

Yes, Hellgate has the best DX10 implementation of ANY game i have yet played; obviously better visuals PLUS better performance !!
- it was a good game that missed greatness

i guess 20 million dollars was not enough for a MMORPG "start up"
:Q

it was a little too little .. too late; if it had come out polished, i think it would have been successful

WoW has the formula down perfectly .. it looks like AoC will be the very biggest fail .. this coming year
- unless they can pull off a miracle of an expansion for the high level players .. soon as Hellgate shuts, i am heading back to Hiboria for 30 days "vacation" - does Age of Conan even have DX10 working yet?

 

[Elcs]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Elcs
I cant believe people are still bashing this game after only playing the demo. As it was stated in every single HG:L thread, the demo was awful and the beta was "ok".

I bought HG:L on its release, had some frustrationg and some good fun. Played it in DX9 because DX10 made my old 512mb 8800GT cry.

Going back about 4 months, I decided that this was a title to try out again. In DX10, this game looks very polished (if you discount repetitive textures) and the difference between DX9 and DX10 is night and day. My 512mb HD4870 played it at 1920x1080 with most settings at highest quite admirably and was completely playable.


Hellgate:London deserves criticism for the worst demo launch ever and for wasting so much potential... However, it deserves plaudits for probably being the best implementation of DX10 in terms of graphical differences and performance optimisations.

Are you playing the free subscriber content now?
- "Stonehenge" expansion is a little buggy but not nearly as bad as last year's early release bugs
---i could not get DX10 to run on any of my 4870s. Only DX9c; so i am playing Hellgate's DX10 pathway on my GTX280 with everything fully maxed out at 19x12

Yes, Hellgate has the best DX10 implementation of ANY game i have yet played; obviously better visuals PLUS better performance !!
- it was a good game that missed greatness

i guess 20 million dollars was not enough for a MMORPG "start up"
:Q

it was a little too little .. too late; if it had come out polished, i think it would have been successful

WoW has the formula down perfectly .. it looks like AoC will be the very biggest fail .. this coming year
- unless they can pull off a miracle of an expansion for the high level players .. soon as Hellgate shuts, i am heading back to Hiboria for 30 days "vacation" - does Age of Conan even have DX10 working yet?

No, I only picked up HG:L again for a test when the HD4870's came out, I was a very early adopter.

DX10 worked flawlessly on... I think it was 8.8 hotfix cats when everyone was switching between 3 different sets because drivers were rather virginal. Initially, DX10 was a nasty sink and waste of resources on my 8800GT in beta and upon release but even going back several months with an HD4870, performance and visuals blow you away.

Despite a repetitive pallette, the art direction is fantastic and they have pulled off a graphically stunning game in areas utilising some fantastic textures (DX10 Hell floor texture).

AoC is an ok game, buggy as hell though and cripples my machine at every graphical level even despite it being a gaming machine.... but it doesnt have DX10 implementation yet (or so I was told on the latest "How many DX10 games are there?" thread)

 

[Schadenfroh]

Can one play the free subscriber content in single player? IE if I update it before the deadline mentioned, I can have all of the content for single player as well?

 

[apoppin]

No .. sadly

only online

i am having a blast playing on Nightmare, 2nd time thru and at Stonehenge
- it is hard as ... hell

 

[HannibalX]

OP, the word you are looking for is "failure".

My god, in 100 years we won't have an English language anymore, just a bunch of babbling internet fuckups.

 

[ZzZGuy]

Originally posted by: iFX
OP, the word you are looking for is "failure".

My god, in 100 years we won't have an English language anymore, just a bunch of babbling internet fuckups.

That is what grammar Nazi's are for.

 

[AdamK47]

How is the single player game?